America's continued move toward socialism
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try buying a home there
try opening a business there
oh by the way
Denmark passes a law to send its asylum seekers outside of Europe | Euronews
i do not think this is the socialism AOC has in mind
Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist | Acton Institute
so they went half assed commie and figured out that it just does not work
gee i wonder if a specific dane left when the gravy train started to slow ?
Who are "we" that has two-tier system and where is the private care (full range of medical care) available?
You're right, larue, you'd never fit in there and shouldn't consider living there.
After all, its the second happiest country in the world and you'd never fit in.
You need somewhere where you can whine about communists, maybe like the US.
Happiest Countries in the World 2024
So... you prefer the Debt that Conservatives create and distribute amongst themselves, as opposed to the Debt the Liberals create that fund bleeding heart programs.
When was the last time a Conservative gov't has balanced a budget in Canada or the US?
Trump said he would... not even close.
GW... was not even going that direction even before 9/11
Bush Sr... And actual "fiscal conservative", still couldn't do it.
Reagan... lowered taxes, spent like a crazy person.
On our side....
Harper blew threw half the previous Liberal Surplus before the 2008 financial crisis hit...
Mulroney.... never came close to balancing a budget.
Please somebody tell me where these budget balancing conservatives are.
In my life time Jean Chretien did it. And Bill Clinton came close...
Don't forget Paul Martin, only PM in many decades to run a surplus.
But that doesn't count because he was a liberal and only conservatives are good with budgets.
Lol! On the backs of the provinces that he used to download to and as a beneficiary of Mulroney 's GST that dramatically increased the federal revenues.
With regards to the US, perhaps you'd like to educate yourself how the money policy and the budgets are set and passed and who is the party responsible.
See, the conservatives say Paul Martin doesn't count!
It only counts when a conservative does it.
Child, Paul Martin was as conservative as Brian Mulroney. Martin's boss, Chretien, was as pragmatic as Harper and much tougher on the internal and external opposition. There are still no clear political labels in the mainstream Canadian politics. Except, if you are a political hack that sees everything in terms of ideology. I assure you, there are not that many of you in Canada.
The majority of us children will vote in the son of another lib PM, beard or not.
I do love how cons have to con themselves into claiming the only PM to run a surplus as their own.
Its really telling, of course, you also back the Jan 6 insurrection, so it appears you are a willing subject.
The liberals abandoned anything resembling financial responsibility in 2015
This is not the liberal part of Jean Chretien or Paul Martin
within an eyelash in 2014 as promised
before that 2006, 2007 and 2008
That is mathematically impossible as he ran surpluses consecutively before the crisis
Then Stephan Harper borrowed when he needed to, in 2008 , then worked to reduce the deficit back to (with an eye lash of) balance by 2014 as he planned and as he promised
ie competent management , before, during and after
His predecessor Pierre Trudeau had greatly expanded the size of govt ( ie head count, crown corporations lots of regulation ) which is a structural deficit
Structural deficits take years to manage down ( reorg, downsize, sell assets)
you can not reduce the size of government overnight, especially when $0.25 out of every budget dollar is spent servicing Pierre's debt
He took the heat for the GST , which was used by Martin to slay the debt problem
BTW
the mess that Justin has created is massive in comparison to his daddies mess
He has borrowed more than all other Canadian Prime ministers combined
A new conservative govt is not going to be able produce a surplus within a mandate
it will take decades to clean up Justin's mess
nice present for your kids
so back to your initial question
So, no I prefer debt incurred by responsible government as opposed to debt incurred by irresponsible fools Justin / Gerald
It's part of the show... say "tax and spend Liberals" as much as you can in media...
I agree with your opinion of Justin Trudeau. He needs to go.... and the Conservative party has offered up a group of politicians that believe conversion therapy will fix the gays... and that wishing for Alberta Oil will somehow make it globally competitive.
I have no issue with Canadian while we're still burning fossil fuels... but the global markets dictate its demand. (I know you already know that).
The NDP would spend us into oblivian....
I am left to chose between 3 incompetents.
As for Harper... not so much.
After producing a surplus in 2007-08 of $9.6 billion, the Harper government delivered a deficit of $5.8 billion in 2008-09 during the global recession.
In subsequent years, his Conservative governments generated shortfalls of $55.6 billion in 2009-10; $33.4 billion in 2010-11; $26.3 billion in 2011-12; $18.4 billion for 2012-13; and $5.2 billion for 2013-14.
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a good start
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actually that believe conversion therapy should be available to Canadians who choose to take that therapy.
Canadian can also choose not to take the therapy as is their right
The real issue is the liberals taking rights away from Canadians
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Actually wishing for a federal government without an agenda to shut down the Canadian oil Industry.
Gerald Butts made it clear long before 2015 he wanted it shut down , then as principal secretary he got to dictate policy......... without being elected
Justin told his ministers Gerald speaks for me
So a better plan is develop the replacement before shutting the energy industry down
Justin has shown them the formula
It will be time to tilt back towards the one choice that understands perpetual deficts is not going to work
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You asked when the last surpluses were
So his name came up
A very responsible & competent PM.
His personality and authoritative nature rubbed many the wrong way & 10 years is a good run in politics.
Stephan Harper managed prudently in good times and then borrowed when he needed to, in 2008 ,
Then he worked to reduce the deficit back to (with an eye lash of) balance by 2014 as he planned and as he promised
ie competent management , before, during and after a crisis
Of course you'll say its crazy for Trudeau to go in debt over a little thing like a pandemic next sentence.
They feel it's rigged. Like sitting down to a monopoly game and your opponent already has 80% of the real estate and 90% of the cash,,,Socialism works in moderation, people are happier and do better, no wonder kids these days are doubting capitalism.
Majority of young adults in US hold negative view of capitalism: poll
A growing majority of young adults in the U.S. have a more negative view of capitalism, according to a new survey from Axios and Momentive. Fifty-four percent of Gen Z adults said they had a n…thehill.com
Monopoly was based off a game that was designed to show you Capitalism is rigged and you should be a Georgist.
