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All charges dropped. It was nothing more than a political persecution.

Update: Defense counsel on CP24 now. "The only reason Mr. Lisi was charged was because he was a good friend of Mr. Rob Ford."

Update: Apparently, the infamous video can now be made public. I'm not going to watch it but, apparently, an unedited version is now on CP24.com.
 
SkyRider said:
All charges dropped. It was nothing more than a political persecution.
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I doubt it.

I don't know the details or intricacies of the case against him, but without evidence from Rob Ford to link the pieces of evidence, I suspect it became very difficult for the Crown to prove its case...

Perry
 
Is that related to the Ford crack video going public?
Now that the Lisi case is done, was that the last thing holding back the Ford video of glory?
 
Legal question: Similar to the Erin Andrews and Hulk Hogan (both public figures) video cases, can the Ford family sue any entity that broadcast the video without their permission?
 
SkyRider said:
Legal question: Similar to the Erin Andrews and Hulk Hogan (both public figures) video cases, can the Ford family sue any entity that broadcast the video without their permission?
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The Ford family does not own the video. They could sue the Star in civil court perhaps but not in criminal court although further court action would draw more attention to the late Rob Ford who should be allowed to rest in peace. This is not the first video along the same theme released anyway, only the first posthumous one.
 
Sandro Lisi is a thug, always has been.

Now that he's free, he better keep his mouth shut - or else Dougie will have him whacked.
 
SkyRider said:
Legal question: Similar to the Erin Andrews and Hulk Hogan (both public figures) video cases, can the Ford family sue any entity that broadcast the video without their permission?
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lomotil said:
The Ford family does not own the video. They could sue the Star in civil court perhaps but not in criminal court although further court action would draw more attention to the late Rob Ford who should be allowed to rest in peace. This is not the first video along the same theme released anyway, only the first posthumous one.
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What would the Ford family's cause of action in a civil case be against The Star?

The Star has every right to publicize the video as The Star and the reporters were essentially called liars by Rob Ford, his brother Doug and every other Ford sycophant. The video clearly exonerates the Star and its reporters as liars and proves that the Ford's were not only lying, but libelling the reporters and the Star.

The video is a matter of public record. It was legally obtained by the police and introduced into evidence in the criminal charges against Lisi. At that point it became part of the public record. However, the video was not released to the public while charges were pending as it could have tainted the jury pool.

Now that the charges against Lisi were dropped, the video is now available to any member of the public.

I heard people on CFRB whining that "they" should just let Ford RIP and not further besmirch his reputation and memory. Well.... what about The Star and their reporters who were still under a cloud of suspicion that they made it all up and were themselves the liars and dishonest parties? Don't they deserve to protect their reputation?

Rob Ford is the only one who had the power to create the memories and legacy of himself. Honest reporters have no obligation to protect his reputation or memory. Their job is to report these matters of public interest to the general public.
 
Rob Ford does not care about his reputation.
 
Anyone who had read the ITO on the sting to charge Lisi would know that the police lied under oath: the ITO itself contains two very contradictory stories about the marked cash which was used in the 'buy' - both sworn under oath.

I have no idea why any prosecutor would even lay charges in such a scenario, except that (as pointed out above) they were on a witch hunt against an alleged minor street-level user in an investigation they blew the better part of a million dollars over.
 
OK, but if the mayor is suspected of smoking crack (like, there is a fucking video), the police have to fucking investigate. And a thorough one.
 
nervcity said:
OK, but if the mayor is suspected of smoking crack (like, there is a fucking video), the police have to fucking investigate. And a thorough one.
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They did.
The question still remains as to why he was never charged with possession once the police had the video.
 
Frankfooter said:
The question still remains as to why he was never charged with possession once the police had the video.
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Proving the video is genuine and reliable under our rules of evidence would be a difficult task in Court without honest and reliable witnesses.

Even then, the video only would prove he was smoking, but not what. You and I may know it from experience and put 2 and 2 together for ourselves, but a Court requires evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

That is the way the system works.

Perry
 
nervcity said:
OK, but if the mayor is suspected of smoking crack (like, there is a fucking video), the police have to fucking investigate. And a thorough one.
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Actually, no, they don't. Certainly the need for a thorough investigation is LESS so than any lawyer, doctor, bay street trader, truck driver, school teacher, construction worker, or anyone else who can do actual and physical harm while impaired. A mayor doesn't have 'real' power to do immediate harm the way countless others can.
 
Anynym said:
Actually, no, they don't. Certainly the need for a thorough investigation is LESS so than any lawyer, doctor, bay street trader, truck driver, school teacher, construction worker, or anyone else who can do actual and physical harm while impaired. A mayor doesn't have 'real' power to do immediate harm the way countless others can.
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A crack smoking mayor is clearly a risk, he could be extorted by criminals and do significant damage.
 
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