Alcohol suspected in high-speed crash that killed 3 - car was travelling at 200 km/h

landscaper

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How much you wanna bet the Crown Attorney wont be allowed to bring this up in court??
The judge will deem it "irrelevant".

Our legal system is a joke! :rolleyes:
The withdrawn charges no longer exist as it has been over 12 months since they were withdrawn, the criminal charges will not be brought up unless they can be proven to be relevant. The probation could come up if it was still in effect additional charges could result from that.
 
This is the sad reality of the Canadian legal system. I've never driven 200km/h on the highway let alone a city street...

This fool kills 3 people and will probably get away with a slap on the wrist.

This also reminds me of the idiots who raced to Wasaga a few summers ago, speeding, weaving in and out of traffic, and end up killing a truck driver. All because impressing your just-as-equally-idiotic friends is the cool thing to do.

Their names and photos should be plastered everywhere for everyone to see and they should be banned from drinking AND driving, period.
 

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There are rumours floating around that the perp had the crap beaten out of him while overnight in the jail. Jail justice!
 

Sammy the Bull

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Ever notice its always the drunk driver that escapes car crashes relatively unscathed???!!
I'm sure there's exceptions but it sure seems that way
 

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I've got nothing to back me up, but if this accident is any indication, because they're pissed, these fuckers may hit stationery cars, or they may be the ones running red lights such that their victims are the ones involved in the side impact. I'm assuming that being hit on the side is much worse than being hit head-on or from behind because there is less metal between you and the force of the accident, but I could stand to be corrected.
That could be true, but you'd think at 200 km/h the drunk would be more injured than he appears to be.
Supposedly he walked away from the crash, thats incredibly lucky
 

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That could be true, but you'd think at 200 km/h the drunk would be more injured than he appears to be.
Supposedly he walked away from the crash, thats incredibly lucky
A couple of things here, one the directrion of the crash is going right into the collision survival systems that BMW build into their vehicals and unfortunatley for society in general in this case they build one hell of a car.

The other thing is drunks have been walking away from these things since there have been cars, one idea isa that they are so relaxed? the collision does not damage them.

Unfortunatley the other half of the collision generally does not get off so lightly
 

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drunks have been walking away from these things since there have been cars, one idea isa that they are so relaxed? the collision does not damage them.
A good two plus decades ago I'm aware of a coed who fell five stories through the narrow space between the landings in a modern stairwell and lived.

The physicians said that a sober person would not have survived since they would have instinctively flailed and tried to catch themselves and therefore would have ricocheted from side to side all the way down whereas this girl just fell straight down through a space little wider than her body, and hit like a rag doll.
 

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Driving 200 kmph on a city street is the drivers problem.
In part true. Where are we if no one takes responsibility for their actions?

Further, automobiles have to have a certain amount of rapid acceleration potential. Keeping irresponsible people from speeding also prevents responsible people from being able to accelerate out of danger.
 

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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Toronto+custody+after+weekend+crash+that+killed/2124258/story.html

Roman Luskin, 21, faces 16 criminal charges including criminal negligence causing death and impaired driving in relation to the crash late Saturday night.

His lawyer has asked for more time to review the evidence. Luskin's next appearance will be by video on Oct. 30, when the judge will decide whether the man will receive bail.

Luskin, who lives with his parents, was on probation when the crash happened.


So I guess they can add probation violation
 

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OK... So where is the law that holds the parole board accountable for crimes that the convicts they release commit!
Interesting point.

BTW, in California Roman would probably be eligible for the "three strikes you're out" law (accumulated felony convictions/groups of convictions arising from seperate incidents/dates - once you're had your third felony conviction in seperate court appearances it is goodbye for life/25 years).

(His first group of fraud felonies in Kingston would be strike 1, his second incident with possessing machines to defraud would be strike 2, and this group of 16 charges would be strike 3. Next stop Folsom Pen for the next 25 years)

Art least he gets a minimum 10 days in jail (until his Oct 30 bail hearing) and wasn't sent home right away on $1 million bail put up by dad and a monitoring bracelet/house arrest.
 
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OK... So where is the law that holds the parole board accountable for crimes that the convicts they release commit!
Interesting point.
My point is... if such a law DID exist... I suspect we would have a WHOLE LOT LESS repeat offenders roaming the streets...
 

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My point is... if such a law DID exist... I suspect we would have a WHOLE LOT LESS repeat offenders roaming the streets...
Yes, I agree - there would be a lot less repeat offenders roaming around.

For a younger offender (say 18-20 living with his parents) probation is a way not to let a youthful mistake ruin his whole life. The idea being "Look numbnuts: you've been given a second chance to behave yourself SO DO IT. Some would be thankful for the second chance and use it to become constructive members of society. This dumb ass used it to kill three people and ruin a fourth's life forever. He should now go away for a long time.

Even top race drivers sober could not drive along a city street like Finch, York Mills, Steeles etc at 200 km/h safely. The streets are not in great shape - potholes, uneven pavement, road debris, cars emerging slowly from side streets, left hand turns, pedestrians...heck, people's driveways back out onto Finch FFS. If one hit a pothole at that speed one could easily lose control and go careening into pedestrians on the sidewalk, somebody's living room, etc. It isn't a case of he was driving fast while sober in the middle of the night on an empty stretch of 407. To do what he did was a total negligent disregard for the lives of others, where someone's death was not just a risk but was the probable outcome of his actions.
 

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How much you wanna bet the Crown Attorney wont be allowed to bring this up in court??
The judge will deem it "irrelevant".

Our legal system is a joke! :rolleyes:
how much you wanna bet that his criminal record is indeed going to be admitted for bail purposes (while all the occurences where charges were stayed/withdrawn will not, as grossly prejudicial)?
 

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The documets on his insurance case from 2007 indicate he has lived here for at least the past 3 years

As for understanding English, he didn't show up for his legal meetings back then because he says he was "in school/in class". Since classes are taught in English, he either understands English to a decent degree, OR his classes were in learning English as a second language. My guess is the former as the legal documents show that his non-Russian name legal representative was instructed to phone him on his cell phone at his school to ask him questions if need be during the meetings. If he was OK with taking English cell phone calls from his legal representative in 2007, I think he knows how to get by in English now, and certainly could figure out what a police request to do drunk-driving test is.
for somebody who has access to quicklaw, you should know better than to speculate on his or his lawyer's student's language proficiency, let alone on his ability to blow steadily and continuously into a screening device after an accident like this
 

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The withdrawn charges no longer exist as it has been over 12 months since they were withdrawn, the criminal charges will not be brought up unless they can be proven to be relevant. The probation could come up if it was still in effect additional charges could result from that.
dude, don't quit your day job
 

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From what I see so far, this guy will get his bail. That is totally unacceptable. If someone goes out and kills 5 people, being drunk AND speeding, AND THEN gets a bail ?

What's the point of the cops ? What's the point of a judge ? In that case, just release that bastard and let him kill more people. Sometimes this judicial system is really F***KED up!

I swear if that guy was in front of me ..........................

There should be NO PARDON, NO FORGIVING to this person. No matter what he had going on in his life that made him do that. The only person that has the right to forgive this man , is the husband of that family who lost their lives.
 
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