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thecoolguyms72 said:
I actually enjoy listening to Bill O'Reilly. I take it for what it is, a point of view rather than news. Sure he criticizes both sides of the political spectrum, but it is fairly obvious which side he falls on for the most part. What I find funny is that he rails against ideologues when he is one himself. He'll say he isn't and talk about the "no spin zone", but that's just schtick to numb the masses. He's not a bad guy, I sometimes agree with him and sometimes I don't. Hell, I wouldn't say I'm not an ideologue and I think I'm closer to the middle of the political spectrum than he is. The one thing I do like is, and I've heard it happen, he will reverse his opinion or admit he is wrong. It's not often, but that is very rare. Most on either wing never do this, and for that I give him credit. I do find it funny when the O'Reilly haters call up and spout off something stupid that they've heard from some left wing media outlet that isn't factual, nor intelligent, and he rips them to pieces. I like it more for the entertainment factor than anything.

Also, it does drive me nuts when he pushes his website, gives out "premium memberships" and/or plugs getting membership as it's only a cup of coffee a day. A cup of coffee where? Hopefully not at Starbucks!!! And he plugs one of his books all the time. In fact, one of his goals was to out-sell Hillary Clinton, so that should give you a bit of an idea where he lands on the spectrum.

My one point, get your news/information/opinion from several sources and you will be able to see both or even several sides of the story. Hell, you might even form an opinion of your own rather than repeating someone else's. Heaven forbid!! Well, maybe not Goober.
All very well said.

The most subtle truth about O'Reilly is that like a lot of people, he spoke some "truth" early on, in contrast to the airtight mainstream media, but then like most, got hooked on the celebrity and money of the job, and now is pimping himself out big time.

I saw O'Reilly's interview with Heather Mallick of the Globe, and he essentially bullied her, as is his nature.

Any old smartypants can see that his indignation about Canada is really a trojan horse marketing move to get his show some play here.
 

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I agree, but also don't forget that he spent 6 years on that hard hitting news show Inside Edition. :D Yes, he does bully, that's just his way. It's not a good way, and if you are a strong enough and informed enough person to stand up to him, you'd be fine. I didn't see the interview with Heather Mallick, so I'll reserve judgement. I would bet that if we had supported the world, he would have lauded us as the greatest ally and neighbour a country could have. The part that bothers me about him is that he isn't consistent and is somewhat an ideologue, which he himself despises. He doesn't look at Canada as a distinct group that has the right to think on our own and form our own policy, but rather a very subservient little brother that should just tow the line and be happy. What he doesn't see is the good relationship we have historically had with the U.S., and the number of things that the U.S. hasn't supported us on (lumber competition). Like any friendship, it has tough times and good times, just hopefully the good times outweigh the tough times in quantity, gravity and magnitude.

Sorry for the long paragraph.
 

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Papasmurf, I held my breath waiting for the irony to arrive that never did.

O'reilly is a bully who fancies himself a straight shooter. It turns out he wanted to be a Kennedy, but never was, and people have been paying ever since.
A KENNEDY
that would be the RUM RUNNER, the one who could swim when his pregnant secrectary dould not, the falandering president the one with morals????

Which Kennedy????
 

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"Paul in Kingston, Ontario writes, "I feel real anger towards Canadian media people who are so blatantly anti-American. Please do not use my last name, I fear government reprisal."

-Canadians are not so much anti american, yet rather anti bush - something a majority of americans are becoming...

"More than a few Canadian e-mailers said the same thing. They're afraid of their government if they dissent from the anti-American party line."

-We live in a free country, we have no reason to fear reprisals from government.

"Since 9/11, the Canadian government has done the following. Refused to crack down on known terrorist organizations. Not one individual has been prosecuted for terrorist activities, even though U.S. intelligence has identified at least 50 pro-terror outfits operating north of the border. Continued its loose immigration policies. Is allowing Islamic courts in Ontario to decide on some civil cases involving Muslims. Refused to send troops to Iraq. Decriminalized marijuana, making it easier for smugglers to send pot into the U.S.A. And supported a quasi-legalization of heroin in the city of Vancouver. "

Yeah, how many have been successfully prosecuted in the US? Not counting those illegally imprisoned, without charge, legal representation etc, not to mention the illegal deportation of a Canadian citizen to be tortured and imprisoned.
Most of the world, and depending on the polls, nearly half of americans opposed sending troops to Iraq
Oh yeah, I hear smugglers are running rampant, bringing in pot, 30g at a time (the amount for which posession has been decriminalized)

"Now, however, the last straw is in the drink. If the Canadian government provides sanctuary to American military criminals, deserters, "Talking Points" believes that action would directly undermine the U.S. war on terror.


"All of us in America should be soldiers in the war on terror. If a foreign country's helping those who want to kill us, then we have an obligation to confront that. These deserters weren't drafted. They signed up. And when the going got tough, they split. If all our military people did that, 9-11 would be on constant instant replay."

Wake up. The war in Iraq has NOTHING repeat NOTHING to do with Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. Its dubya who thinks that anyone whose skin is on the wrong side of white, lives in a desert, has lots of oil, and tends to sport a moustache or beard is automatically suspected of being a terrorist. I mean Saddam's regime was on of the few secular ones in the Mid east, and by the stories you hear, he was far from being a devout muslim. Sure he was a vicious corrupt cruel dictator, one that was tolerated by every country in the west (and supported financially and militarily) for 30 YEARS!!! But when they needed an ass to be kicked - he becomes the terrorist of the day.
There would be a lot more accomplished in stopping / preventing terrorism if GWB had kept his couple billion spent on the war in Iraq and spent it on peacful projects, foreign aid, and "homeland" security. Oh yeah I forgot, if he did that, he couldn't run (ie try to steal) another election, this time as a macho "WARTIME PRESIDENT"

"Canada is now on notice. Undermining the American military by giving sanctuary to deserters will bring action by the most powerful force on this earth, the American people. "

A trade war would be very damaging for both. Do you realize that CAnada has the worlds second largest oil reserves? Or that we are the biggest trading partner of 70% of your states?

This guy is clearly a joke, and represents all that is wrong with US "Journalism".

NOTE: We have posted this poll question on billoreilly.com. Would you support a boycott against Canadian goods and services if that country does not return the American deserters? Billoreilly.com has it for you
 

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Do you realize that CAnada has the worlds second largest oil reserves? Or that we are the biggest trading partner of 70% of your states?

where did you get that from.!!! I thought it was Iraq.
 

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I have no idea where he got that statistic. Very misleading though as we don't have much in "reserves". I guess it all depends on what you would deem the definition of reserves to be in this context. I believe that most in the industry define reserves as oil that we reasonably consider to be able to extract in the future from the know physical resources, with the known techniques and in the present economic conditions. I could be wrong, though, that's just how I understand it. And in this case, Canada has low reserves, but high potential. I don't think the oil/tar sands are considered in the reserves calculation at this time as it is more slowly extracted and harder to quantify.

I think that reserves published by the oil companies in the US correspond to the proven reserves only (first line), but the notion of "reserve", elsewhere in the world, generally means the sum of 100% of proven reserves, 50% of the probable reserves, and 25% of the possible reserves. These last two classes of reserves correspond either to oil that hasn't been discovered so far, but whose future discovery is considered more or less probable, or to the reevaluation of the size or the extractible fraction (or both) of existing reservoirs. I believe we are quite rich in the probable and possible areas, but not necessarily in the proven reserves. If it were more economically viable to exploit the probable and possible reserves believed to be there, then we would become more self-sufficient. But at this time when there is so much oil in the middle east, primarily Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Iran, and UAE, companies aren't as willing to put money out to move the probable and possible to the proven stage at this time. It's another argument whether we should or not.
 

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Where did I get this info - well I to was ignorant of the oil reserves stat intil a couple months ago when one of the newspapers (Globe I think) published a poll on how well americans know us - basically no american knew this figure - few canadians for that matter either. It actually is a result of a recent change in the way canada's oil reserves are calculated - previously the oil sands were not included, however changes in technology have led the industry to consider these stores as economically feasible to develop, and now are included in Canada's reserves, shooting us up past Iraq by 60-70 billion barrels or so. see below

http://www.canadianembassy.org/trade/energygraphs1-en.asp

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"Early in 2003, the Oil and Gas Journal increased its estimate of the size of Canada's oil reserves from 4.9 billion barrels to 180 billion. As a result, Canada now has the second-largest oil reserves in the world, ahead of Iraq, and OPEC's share of the world's oil reserves has fallen by more than 10 percent.
The explanation for this sudden, massive rise was that the journal had included Alberta's vast tar sands as part of the reserves for the first time. In order for an oil resource to be termed a reserve, it must be possible to extract oil profitably with existing technologies and under present economic conditions. "The tar sands had been economic for some time" Colin Campbell commented. "The change in reporting practice was probably made for a political reason - perhaps to undermine OPEC." The U.S. Geological Survey estimates that by 2005, 10 percent of North America's oil production will come from Alberta's sands.
Speaking at the Thurles conference, David Frowd of Shell, which has invested heavily in extracting oil from the Albertan sands, put the Canadian reserves even higher than the O&GJ, at 300 billion barrels, and the world reserves of oil extractable oil from tar sands and shales at 800 billion. He added that if current research into methods of using moderate temperatures to extract heavy oils from oil shales and some types of coal while they were still underground were successful, the world's oil reserves would be vastly increased. "

So as cool guy indicates its dependent on how reserves are defined - but apparently the definition has changed and we're #2.

Re trade and US states, this stat is from a recent news story on the PM discussing trade in the globe
 
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papasmerf said:
A KENNEDY
that would be the RUM RUNNER, the one who could swim when his pregnant secrectary dould not, the falandering president the one with morals????

Which Kennedy????
C'mon, Papa, leave the straw man behind. I'm merely pointing out that *O'Reilly* idealized the Kennedys. What the Kennedys *are* is another matter. :)
 
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