Al-Jazeera drew US viewers on Web during Gaza war

[fuji]

all you Al Jazeera bashers are not qualified to speak on a topic you know nothing about since you do not speak, read, write or understand Arabic, please stick to telling us about how all Muslims are murderers and Jews from Brooklyn should live in the West Bank

We're talking about Al Jazeera's English broadcasts, so shut up. I happen to see AJ as a credible news agency but your comment is inane bigotry.

 

[scouser1]

We're talking about Al Jazeera's English broadcasts, so shut up. I happen to see AJ as a credible news agency but your comment is inane bigotry.

I was not referring to you Baruch!!!

 

[Inferno]

I was not referring to you Baruch!!!

It's interesting that, in your attempt to insult your opponents, you keep invoking the name of Baruch Goldstein, the right-wing Israeli extremist who massacred 29 Muslims in Hebron in 1994.

He has indeed brought shame to Israel and all Jewish people, for his actions were despicably evil and the outcome of those actions was tragic. You are correct in using his name as an epithet; most Jews recoil in revulsion at the memory of the crimes that he perpetrated.

Let me be absolutely clear: he was a fucked-up terrorist who brought shame upon his people.

But how many of his ilk are there among the Jews? Who else, besides possibly Yigal Amir (who assassinated Yizhak Rabin), can you name? How many Jewish suicide bombers have there been throughout history? Are you resorting to clutching at this one, fifteen-year-old straw because the list of Jewish terrorists essentialy begins and ends with Baruch Goldstein?

By contrast, I can list HUNDREDS of Palestinian terrorists - shahids - who have comitted suicide murders over the past decade, in Israel and around the world. You call them 'martyrs'. The rest of the world calls them killers.

Remember, teacher: people in glass houses should not throw stones.

 

[gryfin]

It's interesting that, in your attempt to insult your opponents, you keep invoking the name of Baruch Goldstein, the right-wing Israeli extremist who massacred 29 Muslims in Hebron in 1994.

He has indeed brought shame to Israel and all Jewish people, for his actions were despicably evil and the outcome of those actions was tragic. You are correct in using his name as an epithet; most Jews recoil in revulsion at the memory of the crimes that he perpetrated.

Let me be absolutely clear: he was a fucked-up terrorist who brought shame upon his people.

But how many of his ilk are there among the Jews? Who else, besides possibly Yigal Amir (who assassinated Yizhak Rabin), can you name? How many Jewish suicide bombers have there been throughout history? Are you resorting to clutching at this one, fifteen-year-old straw because the list of Jewish terrorists essentialy begins and ends with Baruch Goldstein?

By contrast, I can list HUNDREDS of Palestinian terrorists - shahids - who have comitted suicide murders over the past decade, in Israel and around the world. You call them 'martyrs'. The rest of the world calls them killers.

Remember, teacher: people in glass houses should not throw stones.

Here's one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeev_Sternhell#Attack

 

[scouser1]

It's interesting that, in your attempt to insult your opponents, you keep invoking the name of Baruch Goldstein, the right-wing Israeli extremist who massacred 29 Muslims in Hebron in 1994.

He has indeed brought shame to Israel and all Jewish people, for his actions were despicably evil and the outcome of those actions was tragic. You are correct in using his name as an epithet; most Jews recoil in revulsion at the memory of the crimes that he perpetrated.

Let me be absolutely clear: he was a fucked-up terrorist who brought shame upon his people.

But how many of his ilk are there among the Jews? Who else, besides possibly Yigal Amir (who assassinated Yizhak Rabin), can you name? How many Jewish suicide bombers have there been throughout history? Are you resorting to clutching at this one, fifteen-year-old straw because the list of Jewish terrorists essentialy begins and ends with Baruch Goldstein?

By contrast, I can list HUNDREDS of Palestinian terrorists - shahids - who have comitted suicide murders over the past decade, in Israel and around the world. You call them 'martyrs'. The rest of the world calls them killers.

Remember, teacher: people in glass houses should not throw stones.

and those with F-16's and Apaches do not need suicide bombers!!! there are all sorts of right wing extremist Jewish wackos who would gladly kill Palestinians if given the opportunity on a large scale, they are called settlers although the term welfare cases is better since they live off a state they pretend to love so much without providing anything in return, well unless you count stealing land a national duty.

 

[Inferno]

Here's one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeev_Sternhell#Attack

Wow, how weak is that??? Is that the best you could dig up?

A) No one was killed (Sternhell was "lightly hurt").

B) Police never caught the assaillants (they "suspected that he was attacked by right-wing extremists for his views").

C) If the attack WAS perpetrated by right-wing extremists, it's still a case of Jew-on-Jew violence, not Jew-on-Arab.

But hey, if that's the best you can do, you've done a great job of proving my point. Thanks!

 

[gryfin]

Wow, how weak is that??? Is that the best you could dig up?

A) No one was killed (Sternhell was "lightly hurt").

B) Police never caught the assaillants (they "suspected that he was attacked by right-wing extremists for his views").

C) If the attack WAS perpetrated by right-wing extremists, it's still a case of Jew-on-Jew violence, not Jew-on-Arab.

But hey, if that's the best you can do, you've done a great job of proving my point. Thanks!

Thanks for responding as I thought you would, sweetcheeks.

Here's something for you to chew on:

Following is a list of attacks that have been attributed to Irgun that took place during the 1930's.

* April 20, 1936 - 2 Arab workers in a banana plantation killed
* March, 1937 - 2 Arabs killed on Bat-Yam beach
* November 14, 1937 - 6 Arabs were killed in several shooting attacks in Jerusalem.
* April 12, 1938 - 2 Arabs and 2 British policemen were killed by a bomb in a train in Haifa.
* April 17, 1938 - An Arab was killed by a bomb detonated in a cafe in Haifa
* May 17, 1938 - An Arab policeman was killed in an attack on a bus in the Jerusalem-Hebron road.
* May 24, 1938 - 3 Arabs were shot and killed in Haifa.
* June 23, 1938 - 2 Arabs were killed near Tel-Aviv.
* June 26, 1938 - 7 Arabs were killed by a bomb in Jaffa.
* June 27, 1938 - An Arab was killed in the yard of a hospital in Haifa.
* July 5, 1938 - 7 Arabs were killed in several shooting attacks in Tel-Aviv.
* On the same day, 3 Arabs were killed by a bomb detonated in a bus in Jerusalem.
* On the same day, an Arab was killed in another attack in Jerusalem.
* July 6 1938 - 18 Arabs and 5 Jews were killed by two simultaneous bombs in the Arab Melon market in Haifa.
* July 8, 1938 - 4 Arabs were killed by a bomb in Jerusalem.
* July 16, 1938 - 10 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jerusalem.
* July 25, 1938 - 53 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa.
* August 26, 1938 - 24 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jaffa.
* February 27, 1939 - 33 Arabs were killed in multiple attacks, incl. 24 by bomb in Arab market in Suk Quarter of Haifa and 4 by bomb in Arab vegetable market in Jerusalem.
* May 29, 1939 - 5 Arabs were killed by a mine detonated at the Rex cinema in Jerusalem.
* On the same day, 5 Arabs were shot and killed during a raid on the village of Biyar 'Adas.
* June 2, 1939 - 5 Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem.
* June 12, 1939 - A post office in Jerusalem was bombed, killing a British bomb expert trying to defuse the bombs.
* June 16, 1939 - 6 Arabs were killed in several attacks in Jerusalem.
* June 19, 1939 - 20 Arabs were killed by explosives mounted on a donkey at a marketplace in Haifa.
* June 29, 1939 - 13 Arabs were killed in multiple shootings during one-hour period.
* June 30, 1939 - An Arab was killed at a marketplace in Jerusalem.
* On the same day, 2 Arabs were shot and killed in Lifta.
* July 3, 1939 - An Arab was killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa.
* July 4, 1939 - 2 Arabs were killed in two attacks in Jerusalem.
* July 20, 1939 - An Arab was killed at a train station in Jaffa.
* On the same day, 6 Arabs were killed in several attacks in Tel-Aviv.
* On the same day, 3 Arabs were killed in Rehovot.
* August 27, 1939 - 2 British officers were killed by a mine in Jerusalem.

Only operations resulting in death are included above. The Irgun conducted at least 60 operations altogether during this period.[2]

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-Irgun-attacks-during-the-1930s

 

[Inferno]

Thanks for responding as I thought you would, sweetcheeks.

Here's something for you to chew on:

Following is a list of attacks that have been attributed to Irgun that took place during the 1930's.

* April 20, 1936 - 2 Arab workers in a banana plantation killed
* March, 1937 - 2 Arabs killed on Bat-Yam beach
* November 14, 1937 - 6 Arabs were killed in several shooting attacks in Jerusalem.
* April 12, 1938 - 2 Arabs and 2 British policemen were killed by a bomb in a train in Haifa.
* April 17, 1938 - An Arab was killed by a bomb detonated in a cafe in Haifa
* May 17, 1938 - An Arab policeman was killed in an attack on a bus in the Jerusalem-Hebron road.
* May 24, 1938 - 3 Arabs were shot and killed in Haifa.
* June 23, 1938 - 2 Arabs were killed near Tel-Aviv.
* June 26, 1938 - 7 Arabs were killed by a bomb in Jaffa.
* June 27, 1938 - An Arab was killed in the yard of a hospital in Haifa.
* July 5, 1938 - 7 Arabs were killed in several shooting attacks in Tel-Aviv.
* On the same day, 3 Arabs were killed by a bomb detonated in a bus in Jerusalem.
* On the same day, an Arab was killed in another attack in Jerusalem.
* July 6 1938 - 18 Arabs and 5 Jews were killed by two simultaneous bombs in the Arab Melon market in Haifa.
* July 8, 1938 - 4 Arabs were killed by a bomb in Jerusalem.
* July 16, 1938 - 10 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jerusalem.
* July 25, 1938 - 53 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa.
* August 26, 1938 - 24 Arabs were killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Jaffa.
* February 27, 1939 - 33 Arabs were killed in multiple attacks, incl. 24 by bomb in Arab market in Suk Quarter of Haifa and 4 by bomb in Arab vegetable market in Jerusalem.
* May 29, 1939 - 5 Arabs were killed by a mine detonated at the Rex cinema in Jerusalem.
* On the same day, 5 Arabs were shot and killed during a raid on the village of Biyar 'Adas.
* June 2, 1939 - 5 Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem.
* June 12, 1939 - A post office in Jerusalem was bombed, killing a British bomb expert trying to defuse the bombs.
* June 16, 1939 - 6 Arabs were killed in several attacks in Jerusalem.
* June 19, 1939 - 20 Arabs were killed by explosives mounted on a donkey at a marketplace in Haifa.
* June 29, 1939 - 13 Arabs were killed in multiple shootings during one-hour period.
* June 30, 1939 - An Arab was killed at a marketplace in Jerusalem.
* On the same day, 2 Arabs were shot and killed in Lifta.
* July 3, 1939 - An Arab was killed by a bomb at a marketplace in Haifa.
* July 4, 1939 - 2 Arabs were killed in two attacks in Jerusalem.
* July 20, 1939 - An Arab was killed at a train station in Jaffa.
* On the same day, 6 Arabs were killed in several attacks in Tel-Aviv.
* On the same day, 3 Arabs were killed in Rehovot.
* August 27, 1939 - 2 British officers were killed by a mine in Jerusalem.

Only operations resulting in death are included above. The Irgun conducted at least 60 operations altogether during this period.[2]

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-Irgun-attacks-during-the-1930s

Yeah, but where's your proof? I want the names of the attackers, the names of the victims, and particulars surrunding the specifics of these alleged killings.

Prove to me that it was the Irgun that did all this, and that they were unprovoked acts of terrorism.

Statistics are not facts.

 

[gryfin]

Yeah, but where's your proof? I want the names of the attackers, the names of the victims, and particulars surrunding the specifics of these alleged killings.

Prove to me that it was the Irgun that did all this, and that they were unprovoked acts of terrorism.

Statistics are not facts.

These are facts as well as statistics. Let's cross reference it, OK?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks_during_the_1930s

 

[gryfin]

Wow, how weak is that??? Is that the best you could dig up?

A) No one was killed (Sternhell was "lightly hurt").

B) Police never caught the assaillants (they "suspected that he was attacked by right-wing extremists for his views").

C) If the attack WAS perpetrated by right-wing extremists, it's still a case of Jew-on-Jew violence, not Jew-on-Arab.

But hey, if that's the best you can do, you've done a great job of proving my point. Thanks!

Or how about the Lavon Affair, where Israeli agents posing as Arabs set off bombs in Egypt in a number of locations including American gov't offices, hoping to discredit Arabs and bring America to their side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

 

[fuji]

attributed to Irgun

Irgun was plainly an extremist organization that existed long ago in distant history. Got anything more recent?

Like, anything in the last 50 years?

 

[basketcase]

Another list for gryf to put some context into his list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920_Palestine_riots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Safed_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Tiberias_massacre

 

[Damondean]

I get all my news from Jerry Springer...

I get my news from TERB ... the news that REALLY matters. The reviews and the posts by the ladies.

One has to wonder what Persis and Gryfin are doing here.

 

[The Prince]

I am sticking to terb and the National Enquirer. I find the Enquirer more credible that Al Jazeera and certainly more interesting.
What was the post on cl about scouser needing tic tacs????

 

[Mia.Colpa]

One has to wonder what Persis and Gryfin are doing here.

They're here for our entertainment, they're a bunch of clowns.

 

[zaig]

They're here for our entertainment, they're a bunch of clowns.

100% correct!

On a more serious note, its people like these wackos that spread even more hate and anti-semitism in the world.

They are so filled with hate they will never see the truth.

 

[Damondean]

100% correct!

On a more serious note, its people like these wackos that spread even more hate and anti-semitism in the world.

They are so filled with hate they will never see the truth.

Yeah, they need to get laid! They should read the reviews. )

 

[The Prince]

There was a very funny post on cl about scouser and tic tacs. Hilarious.

 

[fuji]

Irgun was plainly an extremist organization that existed long ago in distant history. Got anything more recent?

Like, anything in the last 50 years?

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So Gryfin, I guess you haven't been able to come up with much from the past fifty years or so then?

 

[dj1470]

well of course you have watched and you are fluent in Arabic or do you mean by way of Bill O'Reilly and Fox News telling you its biased

ok back to reality yes Al Jazeera is Arab slighted but duh its an Arab station and in a vast sea of government controlled news is a totally refreshing change, they bring on all sorts of people from across the political spectrum in the Middle East for interviews, even Israeli politicians and members of the Knesset have been on. This is the one station in the Middle East that secular nationalists and Islamists hate, now that says something when people like that hate you.

But doesn't your argument mean that me watching O'Reilly and FOXNews is just as valuable as you watching Al-Jazerra?

Allow me to demonstrate by using your quote:

"ok back to reality yes FOXNEWS is conservative slighted but duh its an western station and in a vast sea of government controlled news is a totally refreshing change, they bring on all sorts of people from across the political spectrum in North America for interviews, even Mexican or Canadian politicians and members of the Muslim faith have been on. This is the one station in North America that secular nationalists and fundamentalist christians hate, now that says something when people like that hate you"

So I guess.........yeah..............duh