AIDS, Part II

[Meister]

I wouldn't call AIDS a gay disease. I would call it a blood to blood or semen to blood contact disease. It just so happens that the preferred method of gay sex facilitates above contact the best. Combine that with the fact that in the 80s gay men on average had multiple partners it makes sense that it would spread in that community.
Looking at the statistics below the question remains why is the percentage of Aids in gays much higher in USA than in Africa? I think it comes down to that the North American hetero male is not as promiscous and stupid enough to have unprotected sex on a large scale like the Africans. You may flame me for that, but why do African males refuse condoms in a big way? Why can't they do their part?

"At the end of 2004, the CDC estimates that 415,193 people were living with AIDS in the USA.1

Of these,

* 35% were white
* 43% were black
* 20% were Hispanic
* 1% were of other race/ethnicity.

Of the adults and adolescents2 with AIDS, 77% were men. Of these men,

* 58% were men who had sex with men (MSM)
* 21% were injection drug users (IDU)
* 11% were exposed through heterosexual contact
* 8% were both MSM and IDU.

Of the 93,566 adult and adolescent women with AIDS,

* 64% were exposed through heterosexual contact
* 34% were exposed through injection drug use"

 

[Ref]

My apologies for hi-jacking your thread....

But why was the original AIDS thread stopped by the mods?

This is silly. TERB is a board that justifies discussions of this sort and as sensitive a topic as AIDS is, the tone of the discussion was pretty much contained.

To be honest I would rather have you shut down those useless, waste of band-width threads that deal with "post counts", "say something nice about the last poster", "new word game", "why am I such a board whore fucking loser" and "oh look at me I need attention because in reality all I have is my fucking cats" threads!!!!

Please mods, learn to distinguish the difference between threads that evoke passion and thought versus those that stroke the ego's of a few insecure fuck-heads that insist on polluting the board with their boring, over-done grade school bull-shit.

Closing off threads because of personal view-points or political correctness destroys the basis of this board. Tempering or reminding members of board rules is a more persuading means of allowing sensitive issues to remain as active threads.

 

[frankcastle]

Well said the both of you.

 

[PHNINE]

LOL First of all I hate cats. Second of all I stroke way more then my ego and I am not insecure. But of course Ref you weren't refering to me right?

 

[Cinema Face]

AIDS is a lifestyle disease. If you don’t want to get AIDS, then don’t do the things that put you at risk.

Meister’s statistics prove it’s a lifestyle disease.

77% are men. 89% of them got AIDS from gay sex or IV drug use.

23% are women who either got AIDS through sex with Bi men or IV drug use.


Moral of the story: Don’t share needles and use a condom when you’re bum blasting.

 

[David Beckham 23]

AIDS is a lifestyle disease. If you don’t want to get AIDS, then don’t do the things that put you at risk.

Meister’s statistics prove it’s a lifestyle disease.

77% are men. 89% of them got AIDS from gay sex or IV drug use.

23% are women who either got AIDS through sex with Bi men or IV drug use.


Moral of the story: Don’t share needles and use a condom when you’re bum blasting.

Real and straight to the point.

 

[acutus]

Thank you for your New Thread, Mr. Meister...

I agree with Mr. Cinema Face's position that AIDS is a lifestyle disease, and for me that raises a fundamental question about to how to deal with this Pandemic; and that question is: Is the issue of AIDS a "Civil Rights' issue or a Public Health issue? Sincerely, Jon .

 

[acutus]

But why was the original AIDS thread stopped by the mods?

This is silly. TERB is a board that justifies discussions of this sort and as sensitive a topic as AIDS is, the tone of the discussion was pretty much contained.



Closing off threads because of personal view-points or political correctness destroys the basis of this board. Tempering or reminding members of board rules is a more persuading means of allowing sensitive issues to remain as active threads.

I agree. Sincerely, Jon .

 

[Asterix]

From what I understand a big problem in Africa is that the guys are too macho to wear condoms. Now they say that circumcision will help to stop the spread of the disease.
Once women have acquired the disease from their husbands, many refuse to take medication that will save their lives because they will be shunned by the community for having AIDS.

The biggest problem in Africa is that women in many cultures are often not given any choice in how sex is initiated and performed. The artificial drying out of a women's vagina prior to sex is commonplace in many areas of sub-saharan Africa, as that is preferred by men. In some cultures they go so far as to sew a women's vagina partially shut to increase friction. The much higher risk of disease transfer because these practices is obvious. I posted this link before in another forum, but it is an eye opening account of how sexual practices in some parts of Africa have accelerated the spread of disease. I'd encourage anyone interested in how the disease has progressed to read this. The author won the 2000 Pulitzer Prize in international journalism for this article.

http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2000/international-reporting/works/AIDS5.html

 

[Don]

Looking at the statistics below the question remains why is the percentage of Aids in gays much higher in USA than in Africa? I think it comes down to that the North American hetero male is not as promiscous and stupid enough to have unprotected sex on a large scale like the Africans. You may flame me for that, but why do African males refuse condoms in a big way? Why can't they do their part?

Part of it is lack of sexual education in Africa. Another reason is the outdated insistance of some countries to encourage abstinance over condom use and tying that policy to their aid given.

 

[basketcase]

...
23% are women who either got AIDS through sex with Bi men or IV drug use.
...

I must have missed that part of the survey.

 

[Meister]

The artificial drying out of a women's vagina prior to sex is commonplace in many areas of sub-saharan Africa, as that is preferred by men. In some cultures they go so far as to sew a women's vagina partially shut to increase friction.

This sounds intriguing and odd at the same time. You would think that a dry vagina would drastically reduce pleasure. And, you would also think that culture alone wouldn't be able to convince a guy to rub his dick on what essentially feels like a dry piece of leather.

 

[Asterix]

This sounds intriguing and odd at the same time. You would think that a dry vagina would drastically reduce pleasure. And, you would also think that culture alone wouldn't be able to convince a guy to rub his dick on what essentially feels like a dry piece of leather.

Bizzarre might be a better word. If the men might have reduced pleasure, it causes outright pain for the women, which is evidently the point. This is as much about control as it is about sex, and a way for men to demonstrate their power over them, at the same time denying women any possibility for any pleasure of their own.

 

[Asterix]

My apologies for hi-jacking your thread....

But why was the original AIDS thread stopped by the mods?

This is silly. TERB is a board that justifies discussions of this sort and as sensitive a topic as AIDS is, the tone of the discussion was pretty much contained.

To be honest I would rather have you shut down those useless, waste of band-width threads that deal with "post counts", "say something nice about the last poster", "new word game", "why am I such a board whore fucking loser" and "oh look at me I need attention because in reality all I have is my fucking cats" threads!!!!

Please mods, learn to distinguish the difference between threads that evoke passion and thought versus those that stroke the ego's of a few insecure fuck-heads that insist on polluting the board with their boring, over-done grade school bull-shit.

You think this is going to change anytime soon? C'mon. How people wipe their ass is obviously more of interest here.

 

[moviefan]

Confusion at 333 King St. E.

You think this is going to change anytime soon? C'mon. How people wipe their ass is obviously more of interest here.

Here's an interesting footnote to the AIDS conference.

In its editorial today, the Toronto Sun wrote about the AIDS situation and said, "It’s a pandemic — a far cry from the 'gay men’s disease' many still view it as (though the recent rise in infections in Toronto’s gay community is alarming)."

However, in an article that appeared in yesterday's Sun, columnist Michael Coren wrote "AIDS in the West is still overwhelmingly a threat to male homosexuals and intravenous drug users."

It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison, since the editorial today was looking at both the local and the international statistics, while Coren's comment is specific to the West.

Still, it seems there isn't total agreement among the Sun writers about what we should think of AIDS.