Agencies Should reopen per CBC
- Thread starter bebe
- Start date
There exists at least three potential vaccines for the Covid-19 virus. One of which, is being developed in Canada and it isn't so much getting a vaccine that's difficult, it's making it safe and producing it in quantity that's the real trick. My understanding is the process they're using isn't amenable to the chicken eggs which they use for the common flu vaccines so it has to be produced in another medium and their supply of such is very restricted at the moment and it'll be six to nine months before they have it ready. By that point, we'll be past all this.
Good god manWhy do you say finding a vaccine is easy? It is was easy they would have found it. Don’t think they have
Production is probably the easy part. Boots on the ground for treatment will be a pain. Might have to camp out for days in line to get it
Its a Coronavirus
Google it there are TONS of variants out there in the world (hence the term "novel" or "new" since this is simply a diff strain)
Not only have multiple countries already said they have vaccines, but some nations (eg the USA, Aus, HK) have ALREADY begun human testing
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/us/coronavirus-us-american-treatment-trial/index.html (see the date? *FEB 26* !!)
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/fir...onavirus-vaccine-begins-monday-in-the-us.html (vaccine released *Mar 16* to humans, not even a month later)
I agree with the people who think this "pandemic" is seriously overblown
Stuff like the plague or even the most recent (1918+) influenza epidemic were far worse
Old people and people with weak / compromised immune systems get sick easily and die
We get it now move on
(You have a higher percentage to die from tetanus than you do from coro)
Ann breaks it down by the numbers: https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1242485364985659395
It was a nice little trial run by the Illuminati though. They know just how much power they can exert on the world with their bioweapons.
We need to get the economy humming again. In fact, based on these stats, I think we'll get over this pandemic scare much quicker than previously thought. In two months, it'll be in the news, but it won't be as newsworthy.With more than 5k deaths, Italy has more deaths per capita than China. Latest figures:
Deaths under age 30: ZERO
Deaths under 70: 594
Deaths 70-90: 3,791
It was a nice little trial run by the Illuminati though. They know just how much power they can exert on the world with their bioweapons.
Lots of the drugs being tested are drugs we know about, but they have been approved for other uses which makes sense.Good god man
Its a Coronavirus
Google it there are TONS of variants out there in the world (hence the term "novel" or "new" since this is simply a diff strain)
Not only have multiple countries already said they have vaccines, but some nations (eg the USA, Aus, HK) have ALREADY begun human testing
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/us/coronavirus-us-american-treatment-trial/index.html (see the date? *FEB 26* !!)
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/fir...onavirus-vaccine-begins-monday-in-the-us.html (vaccine released *Mar 16* to humans, not even a month later)
I agree with the people who think this "pandemic" is seriously overblown
Stuff like the plague or even the most recent (1918+) influenza epidemic were far worse
Old people and people with weak / compromised immune systems get sick easily and die
We get it now move on
(You have a higher percentage to die from tetanus than you do from coro)
Some of the drugs being tested are meant to be used to treat those already infected not for those who have not been infected.
True some vaccines are close to starting clinical trials. Be sometime before they are ready for the world at large.
Last edited:
We shall see results but Trump already said 6 months they go full ahead and hope no side effectsTrue some vaccines are close to starting clinical trials. Be sometime before they are ready for the world at large.
He also is claiming more will die via suicide if shut down continues than die of virus if unchecked
Playing devils advocate for a few moments: Say 10,000 Canadians die from Covid-19, and we have a population of 38,000,000. Why did we shut down the entire country to protect 0.02% of the population. Odds are a vast majority of those 10,000 would have died within the next year from other causes (flu, stroke, old age, other causes etc) if covid-19 did not sweep across the globe. Maybe 1,000 will die needlessly, so why did we shut down the entire country to protect 0.002% of the population...
The bail out package is worth $117 Billion dollars. To save each of those 1,000 lives, the cost per person lost is $117 Million. Is the shutting down of the entire Country really worth it...
The bail out package is worth $117 Billion dollars. To save each of those 1,000 lives, the cost per person lost is $117 Million. Is the shutting down of the entire Country really worth it...
Dr Peter Glidden says the same thing, and he gives some staggering statistics the doctors aren't mentioning:Watched an interview on CBC this morning. The host seemed shocked by what the doctor said.
The doctor said no matter what precautions are taken the virus will spread, it cannot be contained.
He thinks focus needs to be put on finding a vaccine instead of spending billions in economic stimulation.
He thinks life needs to return to normal and let the virus run it’s course. Life will continue as it always has and people will die.
If you look at the modelling curves it will end faster if nothing is done. By isolating it extends the duration by months.
Priceless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JaVWB9HQc4
Thanks for the link to that videoDr Peter Glidden says the same thing, and he gives some staggering statistics the doctors aren't mentioning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JaVWB9HQc4
I just want my fav hobby to resume. Getting board of no new reviews, Netflix and Pornhub.
In 2 weeks time the Politicians will say the shut down of non essential services flattened the curve and all businesses can reopen...in the meantime not one fucking thing changed except they have a vaccine.
What you wrote is a beautiful summary of the general misconception that most people still have. Which is why so many people are still going out and about not realizing how dire the situation is.Playing devils advocate for a few moments: Say 10,000 Canadians die from Covid-19, and we have a population of 38,000,000. Why did we shut down the entire country to protect 0.02% of the population. Odds are a vast majority of those 10,000 would have died within the next year from other causes (flu, stroke, old age, other causes etc) if covid-19 did not sweep across the globe. Maybe 1,000 will die needlessly, so why did we shut down the entire country to protect 0.002% of the population...
The bail out package is worth $117 Billion dollars. To save each of those 1,000 lives, the cost per person lost is $117 Million. Is the shutting down of the entire Country really worth it...
There's 2 main misconceptions. Mortality rate, and Age factor.
First of all, the mortality rate is NOT 0.02% and definitely not 0.002% of the population. You are confusing Covid-19 with regular flu.
The mortality rate of Covid-19 is roughly 1-2%.
Now, a lot people still feel like 1-2% is a really low number that they needn't be too concerned about. However, that 1-2% only holds true if everybody that gets infected has access to a fully functioning medical system and gets all the medical help they need.
On the other hand if the health care system gets overwhelmed then that mortality rate suddenly shoots way up. Look at Italy, the health care system got swamped by a sudden influx of infection cases. Now the death rate is over 10%. At this point Italy's health care system is still semi functional. If it completely collapses from the weight of even more people getting sick, plus front line medical staff getting sick as well..... well then the odds of survival becomes worse than playing Russian Roulette.
Coming to the Age factor. Lots of young people are ignorantly and selfishly thinking only the elderly are at significant risk. Its true the mortality rate for young people is lower, that doesn't mean they are invulnerable. But much most importantly, surviving the disease doesn't leave one unharmed. Yes, if you are young you will probably survive the infection, but the disease causes permanent irreversible damage to your lungs. Do you want to be a 25 year old with the cardiovascular system of a 75 year old?
Please don't downplay the severity of this pandemic.
The bailout package is a different issue altogether. I think the government has the obligation to help out ordinary citizens. But corporation bailouts? No way! Most of the money will just go towards lining the pockets of the ultra rich.The bail out package is worth $117 Billion dollars. To save each of those 1,000 lives, the cost per person lost is $117 Million. Is the shutting down of the entire Country really worth it...
How? For an individual with symptoms, let's say severe symptoms, they have trouble breathing and go to hospital. The most the ER docs can do for them is put them on oxygen or a ventilator. Will keeping them on oxygen or a ventilator give their immune system time to turn the tide? Maybe, but the evidence isn't there yet to show that.Now, a lot people still feel like 1-2% is a really low number that they needn't be too concerned about. However, that 1-2% only holds true if everybody that gets infected has access to a fully functioning medical system and gets all the medical help they need.
The bottom line is there is actually very little the ER doctor can do for you if you present with severe symptoms.
The 2% fatality rate presumably is with the ER already 'handling' the severe cases. What would the 2% be without the oxygen or a ventilator?
Well, 2% is an upper bound estimate based ion the number of death per DIAGNOSED virus. It does not take into account many asymptomatic people of people with mild symptoms who were not tested. The lower bound is the number of death divided by the entire population of tge infected region (assuming almost everybody got the virus eventually), and it is much lower than 0.02%What you wrote is a beautiful summary of the general misconception that most people still have. Which is why so many people are still going out and about not realizing how dire the situation is.
There's 2 main misconceptions. Mortality rate, and Age factor.
First of all, the mortality rate is NOT 0.02% and definitely not 0.002% of the population. You are confusing Covid-19 with regular flu.
The mortality rate of Covid-19 is roughly 1-2%.
Now, a lot people still feel like 1-2% is a really low number that they needn't be too concerned about. However, that 1-2% only holds true if everybody that gets infected has access to a fully functioning medical system and gets all the medical help they need.
On the other hand if the health care system gets overwhelmed then that mortality rate suddenly shoots way up. Look at Italy, the health care system got swamped by a sudden influx of infection cases. Now the death rate is over 10%. At this point Italy's health care system is still semi functional. If it completely collapses from the weight of even more people getting sick, plus front line medical staff getting sick as well..... well then the odds of survival becomes worse than playing Russian Roulette.
Coming to the Age factor. Lots of young people are ignorantly and selfishly thinking only the elderly are at significant risk. Its true the mortality rate for young people is lower, that doesn't mean they are invulnerable. But much most importantly, surviving the disease doesn't leave one unharmed. Yes, if you are young you will probably survive the infection, but the disease causes permanent irreversible damage to your lungs. Do you want to be a 25 year old with the cardiovascular system of a 75 year old?
Please don't downplay the severity of this pandemic.
