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AFGHANISTAN: THE WAR THAT SHAMES AMERICA
by Eric Margolis
After 17 bloody years, the longest war in US history continues without relent or purpose in Afghanistan.

There, a valiant, fiercely-independent people, the Pashtun (Pathan) mountain tribes, have battled the full might of the US Empire to a stalemate that has so far cost American taxpayers $4 trillion, and 2,371 dead and 20,320 wounded soldiers. No one knows how many Afghans have died. The number is kept secret.

Pashtun tribesmen in the Taliban alliance and their allies are fighting to oust all foreign troops from Afghanistan and evict the western-imposed and backed puppet regime in Kabul that pretends to be the nation’s legitimate government. Withdraw foreign troops and the Kabul regime would last for only days.

The whole thing smells of the Vietnam War. Lessons so painfully learned by America in that conflict have been completely forgotten and the same mistakes repeated. The lies and happy talk from politicians, generals and media continue apace.

This week, Taliban forces occupied the important strategic city of Ghazni on the road from Peshawar to Kabul. It took three days and massive air attacks by US B-1 heavy bombers, Apache helicopter gun ships, A-10 ground attack aircraft, and massed warplanes from US bases in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Qatar and the 5th US Fleet to finally drive back the Taliban assault. Taliban also overran key military targets in Kabul and the countryside, killing hundreds of government troops in a sort of Afghan Tet offensive.

Afghan regime police and army units put up feeble resistance or ran away. Parts of Ghazni were left in ruins. It was a huge embarrassment to the US imperial generals and their Afghan satraps who had claimed ‘the corner in Afghanistan has finally been turned.’

Efforts by the Trump administration to bomb Taliban into submission have clearly failed. US commanders fear using American ground troops in battle lest they suffer serious casualties. Meanwhile, the US is running low on bombs.

Roads are now so dangerous for the occupiers that most movement must be by air. Taliban is estimated to permanently control almost 50% of Afghanistan. That number would rise to 100% were it not for omnipresent US air power. Taliban rules the night.

Taliban are not and never were ‘terrorists’ as Washington’s war propaganda falsely claimed. I was there at the creation of the movement – a group of Afghan religious students armed by Pakistan whose goal was to stop post-civil war banditry, the mass rape of women, and to fight the Afghan Communists. When Taliban gained power, it eliminated 95% of the rampant Afghanistan opium-heroin trade. After the US invaded, allied to the old Afghan Communists and northern Tajik tribes, opium-heroin production soared to record levels. Today, US-occupied Afghanistan is the world’s largest producer of opium, morphine and heroin.

US occupation authorities claim drug production is run by Taliban. This is another big lie. The Afghan warlords who support the regime of President Ashraf Ghani entirely control the production and export of drugs. The army and secret police get a big cut. How else would trucks packed with drugs get across the border into Pakistan and Central Asia?

The United States has inadvertently become one of the world’s leading drug dealers. This is one of the most shameful legacies of the Afghan War. But just one. Watching the world’s greatest power bomb and ravage little Afghanistan, a nation so poor that some of its people can’t afford sandals, is a huge dishonor for Americans.

Even so, the Pashtun defeated the invading armies of Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, the Mogul Emperors and the mighty British Raj. The US looks to be next in the Graveyard of Empires.

Nobody in Washington can enunciate a good reason for continuing the colonial war in Afghanistan. One hears talk of minerals, women’s rights and democracy as a pretext for keeping US forces in Afghanistan. All nonsense. A possible real reason is to deny influence over Afghanistan, though the Chinese are too smart to grab this poisoned cup. They have more than enough with their rebellious Uighur Muslims.

Interestingly, the so-called ‘terrorist training camps’ supposedly found in Afghanistan in 2001 were actually guerilla training camps run by Pakistani intelligence to train Kashmiri rebels and CIA-run camps for exiled Uighur fighters from China.

The canard that the US had to invade Afghanistan to get at Osama bin Laden, alleged author of the 9/11 attacks, is untrue. The attacks were made by Saudis and mounted from Hamburg and Madrid, not Afghanistan. I’m not even sure bin Laden was behind the attacks.

My late friend and journalist Arnaud de Borchgrave shared my doubts and insisted that the Taliban leader Mullah Omar offered to turn bin Laden over to a court in a Muslim nation to prove his guilt or innocence.

President George Bush, caught sleeping on guard duty and humiliated, had to find an easy target for revenge – and that was Afghanistan.

Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2018
 

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What an idiotic article. Responsibility for ground operations has been turned over to the Afghan National Army the U.S. is now providing air support and training with limited actions by Special Operations. Further for Margolis to say that he doesn't believe that al Qaeda was headquartered in Afghanistan, or that Osama bin Laden wasn't behind the 9/11 attacks is shear lunacy on his part.
 

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What an idiotic article. Responsibility for ground operations has been turned over to the Afghan National Army the U.S. is now providing air support and training with limited actions by Special Operations. Further for Margolis to say that he doesn't believe that al Qaeda was headquartered in Afghanistan, or that Osama bin Laden wasn't behind the 9/11 attacks is shear lunacy on his part.
did you know that the Bush Admin gave the Taliban $43 million dollars in the summer of 2001 before the 911 attacks? wheh they were sheltering Bi Laden after he fled Saudi Arabia?

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/05/17/us.afghanistan.aid/

what is idiotic is that you don't connect dots
 

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His anti-Americanism makes him look like an idiot from time to time. This is one of those times.
Yeah, the war in Afghanistan is a great success for USA.
 

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50% of the country is now in play for the Taliban.
Trump is not doing well.
Because the U.S. has withdrawn its own troops, and the Pakistani military have continued to view this as providing a safe haven for the Taliban (and Osama bin Laden) helps us against India.
 

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Yeah, the war in Afghanistan is a great success for USA.

I agree on this point. The problem is that the Taliban is now embedded in Pashtun culture and has allies among the Pashtun local chiefs and warlords. This makes it almost impossible to permanently uproot. Add in that Pashtun ethnicity extends to both sides of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border and both sides are uncontrollable by either central government.

The best solution is some deal which gives a Pashtun-istan autonomous region within Afghanistan with some Taliban participation in government and a continuing NATO presence to bolster the central government and protect the non Pashtun ethnicities in Afgh from the Taliban (and probably vice versa). Afgh is tribally organized and is in a state of civil war at most times, whether the West in involved or not.
 

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Because the U.S. has withdrawn its own troops, and the Pakistani military have continued to view this as providing a safe haven for the Taliban (and Osama bin Laden) helps us against India.
16,000 USA soldiers remain in Afghanistan. More importantly, the Afghan military is entirely dependent on USA air cover.

In the end, all invaders leave.
 

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This whole mess can be laid at the feet of the Saur Revolution of 1978 and when that government began to fail the 1979 Soviet Invasion, of course before that the coup of Mohammed Daoud Khan of 1973.
 

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What an idiotic article. Responsibility for ground operations has been turned over to the Afghan National Army the U.S. is now providing air support and training with limited actions by Special Operations. Further for Margolis to say that he doesn't believe that al Qaeda was headquartered in Afghanistan, or that Osama bin Laden wasn't behind the 9/11 attacks is shear lunacy on his part.
Do you also believe in the tooth fairy and santa claus?
 

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16,000 USA soldiers remain in Afghanistan. More importantly, the Afghan military is entirely dependent on USA air cover.

In the end, all invaders leave.
You are right, and when we do it will get worse. Your Taliban buddies will go back to child brides and banning the education of girls.
 

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You are right, and when we do it will get worse. Your Taliban buddies will go back to child brides and banning the education of girls.
It is a well known fact that the warlords America supports (your buddies) keep young boys for entertainment.

Early this year I was on a trip with a member of the Canadian armed forces who had been on duty in Afghanistan. He confirmed this.


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Clover Films and Afghan journalist Najibullah Quraishi made a documentary film titled The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan about the practice, which was shown in the UK in March 2010[24] and aired in the U.S. the following month.[25] Journalist Nicholas Graham of The Huffington Post lauded the documentary as "both fascinating and horrifying."[26] The film won the 2011 Documentary award in the Amnesty International UK Media Awards.[27] The film was broadcast on Channel 4's More4 service.

The issue has been covered by RAWA, Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan.[28] The practice of bacha bazi prompted the United States Department of Defense to hire social scientist AnnaMaria Cardinalli to investigate the problem, as ISAF soldiers on patrol often passed older men walking hand-in-hand with young boys. British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," which the soldiers didn't understand.[6]

In December 2010, a cable made public by WikiLeaks revealed that foreign contractors from DynCorp had spent money on bacha bazi in northern Afghanistan. Afghan Interior Minister Mohammad Hanif Atmar requested that the U.S. military assume control over DynCorp training centers in response, but the U.S. embassy claimed that this was not "legally possible under the DynCorp contract".[13]

In March 2011, The Documentary series on the BBC World Service addressed the concerns over the increased incidence of Dancing Boys and how this was at odds with the image which many wish to project about the post-Taliban future.[29]

In December 2012, a young man in an "improper relationship" with a commander of the Afghan Border Police killed eight guards. He had made a drugged meal for the guards and then, with the help of two friends, attacked them, after which they fled to neighboring Pakistan.[30]

In a 2013 Vice Media, Inc. documentary titled "This Is What Winning Looks Like", British independent film-maker Ben Anderson describes the systematic kidnapping, sexual enslavement and murder of young men and boys by local security forces in the Afghan city of Sangin. The film depicts several scenes of Anderson along with American military personal describing how difficult it is to work with the Afghan police considering the blatant molestation and rape of local youth. The documentary also contains footage of an American military advisor confronting the then-acting Police Chief on the abuse after a young boy is shot in the leg after trying to escape a police barrack. When the Marine suggests that the barracks be searched for children, and that any policeman found to be engaged in pedophilia be arrested and jailed, the high-ranking officer insists what occurs between the security forces and the boys is consensual, saying "[the boys] like being there and giving their asses at night." He went on to claim that this practice was historic and necessary. "If [my commanders] don't fuck the asses of those boys, what should they fuck? The pussies of their own Grandmothers?"[31]

In 2011, an Afghan mother in the Konduz province reported that her 12-year-old son had been chained to a bed and raped for two weeks by an Afghan Local Police (ALP) commander Abdul Rahman. When confronted, Rahman laughed and confessed. He was subsequently severely beaten by two U.S. Special Forces soldiers and physically thrown off the base.[32] The soldiers were involuntarily separated from the military, but later reinstated after a lengthy legal case.[33] As a direct result of this incident, legislation was created called the "Mandating America's Responsibility to Limit Abuse, Negligence and Depravity", or "Martland Act" named after Special Forces Sgt. 1st Class Charles Martland.[34]

In 2015, The New York Times reported that U.S. soldiers serving in Afghanistan were instructed by their commanders to ignore child sexual abuse being carried out by Afghan security forces, except "when rape is being used as a weapon of war." American soldiers have been instructed not to intervene—in some cases, not even when their Afghan allies have abused boys on military bases, according to interviews and court records. But the U.S. soldiers have been increasingly troubled that instead of weeding out pedophiles, the U.S. military was arming them against the Taliban and placing them as the police commanders of villages—and doing little when they began abusing children.[16][35]

According to a report published in June 2017 by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, the US military reported 5753 cases of "gross human rights abuses" by Afghan forces, many of which relating to sexual abuse.[36] According to The New York Times, discussing that report, American law required military aid to be cut off to the offending unit, but that never happened. An American Special Forces officer, Capt. Dan Quinn, was relieved of his command and pulled from Afghanistan after fighting with an Afghan militia commander for keeping a boy as a sex slave.[37]

The media coverage of this phenomenon is stable and there were reports about bacha bazi during 2016 and 2017.[38]

The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan (documentary)
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Confessions of an Afghan Boy Sex Slave, Newsweek (May 2015)
Forgotten No More: Male Child Trafficking in Afghanistan, Hagar International (April 2014)
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Transition Home for Orphan Boys in Afghanistan
This is What Winning Looks Like
'They don't just dance': the Afghan tradition of recruiting young boys for sex (Television production). Afghanistan: Russia Today. 2016.
 

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Danmand, Afghanistan is a shit-hole. In fact, it's a hemorrhoid embedded into a herpes sore encrusted onto the anus of a shit-hole. Whether the US is there or not, it would still be a shit-hole. It's normal activities include inter-tribal genocide, child rape and opium cultivation on a massive scale to finance the first two activities.

One State Dept wag once remarked that if the US conducted a major shock and awe aerial bombardment of Afghanistan, it would "bomb them right up into the Stone Age".

The Taliban is every bit as nasty as anyone else in Afgh. Read the Human Rights Watch stuff that I linked for you.
 

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Danmand, Afghanistan is a shit-hole. In fact, it's a hemorrhoid embedded into a herpes sore encrusted onto the anus of a shit-hole. Whether the US is there or not, it would still be a shit-hole. It's normal activities include inter-tribal genocide, child rape and opium cultivation on a massive scale to finance the first two activities.

One State Dept wag once remarked that if the US conducted a major shock and awe aerial bombardment of Afghanistan, it would "bomb them right up into the Stone Age".

The Taliban is every bit as nasty as anyone else in Afgh. Read the Human Rights Watch stuff that I linked for you.
You may be correct. But don't pretend that any of the invaders have improved the situation. They have not.
Opium production was almost eradicated under the Taluban. Where is it now.

And OTB and others pretending outrage of "child brides" and claiming that the bombing of the population was to "allow girls to go to school" is hypocritical.

Years ago I was viciously attacked here on TERB when I predicted that in the end the invaders would leave and the Taliban would be back in control. Well, we are getting close to the end.

And don't tell me I am in favour of religious fanatics of any stripe because I am against foreign invasions and am able to predict that the invadors eventually will go home and leave the country worse off than before they came.

It is elementary, my dear Oagre
 

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. . .Opium production was almost eradicated under the Taluban. Where is it now.
However, make sure you add that growing of opium poppies is greatest in areas under Taliban control, and that the Taliban promote the growing of opium poppies, in part because they make money from the opium trade.

The Taliban have been utterly hypocritical in this matter.
 

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Most of the countries the US has expended life and treasure to bring democracy to are unworthy of the gift. That’s true of Afghanistan, Iraq and pockets of Europe
 
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