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OTTAWA – Canadian officials contacted the Afghan government yesterday to express concern about new legislation that would reportedly allow men to rape their wives.
The Canadian government reacted with outrage following reports that the Karzai administration has approved a wide-ranging family law for the country's Shia minority.
The legislation is believed to contain articles that make it illegal for Shia women to refuse their husbands sex, leave the house without permission, or have custody of children, the London-based newspaper The Guardian reported yesterday.
Canadian officials contacted the office of President Hamid Karzai, and Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon spoke to two Afghan cabinet ministers yesterday seeking clarification.
Karzai's office has so far refused to comment on the legislation.
Critics say Karzai's government approved it in a hurry to win support in the upcoming election from ethnic Hazaras – a Shia Muslim minority that constitutes a crucial block of swing voters.
Canada, which has lost 116 soldiers in Afghanistan and spent up to $10 billion propping up the Karzai government, has demanded more information about the law.
"If these reports are true, this will create serious problems for Canada," said International Trade Minister Stockwell Day.
"The onus is on the government of Afghanistan to live up to its responsibilities for human rights, absolutely including rights of women.
"If there's any wavering on this point from the government of Afghanistan, this will ... create serious problems and be a serious disappointment for us."
Day was fielding questions in the House of Commons about the reported law while Cannon was in Europe attending an international summit on Afghanistan.
Late yesterday, Canadian officials said they had learned the law was not yet in effect but that they remained "very concerned."

Of course, this is a different culture and we have no right to judge them :rolleyes:
 

Rockslinger

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Kang said:
Of course, this is a different culture and we have no right to judge them.
Of course, it is a moral dilemma on what and how much we should do. The history of the "White Man" interfering in the cultures of indigenous people is not a happy one. My primary concern is that "they" will blame Canada if an Afghan woman gets raped (just like when Afghan boys were raped).
 

Kang

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I'm not sure who you are referring to when you say "they". :confused:
 

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Canada is in Afghanistan for one reason only:

After the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S., Canada offered to help the U.S, in any way it requested. U.S. asked us to help them out in Afghanistan, and we agreed. Helping out meant destroying the terrorists, which was expanded to booting the Taliban out of power, which was later expanded to trying to keep the Taliban from regaining power (which is basically what we are currently doing).

If we want to assist the Afghans by bringing our laws and morals to their country, that is something we can try to do, but it is not why we went there.

["Defence Minister Peter MacKay said he will use this week's NATO summit to put "direct" pressure on his Afghan counterparts to abandon the legislation.

"That's unacceptable – period," he said Wednesday. "We're fighting for values that include equality and women's rights. This sort of legislation won't fly."]

No, actually we are not fighting for this. We are fighting to assist the U.S. who went there (justifiably) for revenge. Would it be a nice idea to fight for women's rights over there? Sure, but that is not what we have been doing there so far. Maybe one hoped for aim in keeping the Taliban out of power is more rights for everyone, sure. To say we went to Afghanisatn to fight for women's right is laughable. Why aren't we in Saudi Arabia if that is our global military aim? lol.
 

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Watching TV and the usual suspects are already demanding Canada "do something" about this Afghan "rape" law. As a former Captain of the Starship Enterprise, I never forget that we should never interfere with alien lives. The Afghans will evolve on their own and reach our level of civilization in due time. We can't force them to do it. Remember that our own ancestors use to burn women at the stake.
 

Don

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Makes me seriously wonder if our sacrifice there is worth it when I hear this backwards mentality.
 

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Of course we have every right to judge them, and we should try to convince them not to adopt such a law. At the same time their culture is vastly different from ours.

The bottom line, however, is do we want a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism, militancy and terrorism just sitting there. Who in their right mind thinks oh they will only attack the U.S. - what idiocy.
 

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alexmst said:
... are fighting to assist the U.S. who went there (justifiably) for revenge...
Justifiable and revenge? Can those words be allowed in the same sentence without a negative?
 

Rockslinger

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emerging44 said:
Justifiable and revenge? Can those words be allowed in the same sentence without a negative?
Actually, when "they" attacked the U.S. on 9/11, it was revenge for some perceived slight. So, when the U.S. surgically attacked their home bases, it could be perceived as counter-revenge. Of course, as good Christians we should always "turn the other cheek" so they can blow that one off as well. Only bad Christians fight back.
 

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I don't know if that law is really an Islamic law or something created by moslem men or clergy in order to get their way with their women. It is just too barbaric to believe it as a religous law.

This religion came at a time when the arabs in arabia were burying their daughters alive. It may have been right for that time and for that geographic region, however, I don't know how many womem have to be raped or killed until this bunch are evolved into civilization.

I think Canada should use its influence in Afghanistan in a good way and ask the corrupt Karzai regime to reverse this stupid law or Canada would withdraw its troops from Afghanistan. It is a shame that our soldiers are sacrificing their lives to make a better Afghanistan and these drug-rich corrupt politicians are passing backwards law like this :mad:
No it is not in Islamic doctrine that men can rape women. The man is the head of the household and what he says goes, but he should hold his wife in the highest of esteem.

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Aardvark154 said:
Of course we have every right to judge them, and we should try to convince them not to adopt such a law. At the same time their culture is vastly different from ours.

The bottom line, however, is do we want a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism, militancy and terrorism just sitting there. Who in their right mind thinks oh they will only attack the U.S. - what idiocy.
Are you really afraid of a taliban attack on Canada? Aren't drunk drivers a scarier and more immediate concern? Should we kill them?
 

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chiller_boy said:
Are you really afraid of a Taliban attack on Canada?
Until we arrived on the scene, the Taliban was killing only "brown" men and women. Doesn't make it right, but we have to be careful when we interfere with the 20,000 year old culture of an indigenous people.
 

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Rockslinger said:
Of course, as good Christians we should always "turn the other cheek" so they can blow that one off as well. Only bad Christians fight back.
Many of us are not Christian, and don't give two shits about that ridiculous and ill-thought-out "turn the other cheek" remark.
 

Rockslinger

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johnhenrygalt said:
Many of us are not Christian, and don't give two shits about that ridiculous and ill-thought-out "turn the other cheek" remark.
I am a Christian and also couldn't care less about "turning the other cheek". Actually, I prefer not getting hit in the first cheek in the first place. Hence, no need to even worry about the second cheek if the first never got hit.
 

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Rockslinger said:
I am a Christian and also couldn't care less about "turning the other cheek". Actually, I prefer not getting hit in the first cheek in the first place. Hence, no need to even worry about the second cheek if the first never got hit.

if you do not follow the teachings of christ, are you christian?
 

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red said:
if you do not follow the teachings of christ, are you christian?
We are capable of independent thoughts and actions and not blindly follow our faith. Yes, I use a condom.
 

red

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Rockslinger said:
We are capable of independent thoughts and actions and not blindly follow our faith. Yes, I use a condom.
i agree with that and i am not trying to pick on you specifically. It was more of a philosophical question. at what point does one stop being a christian if they you do not follow his teachings?

turning the other cheek is a central teaching. so if you say you don't believe in turning the other cheek; are you a christian?
 
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