Adult Vacations

[alexisz]

Hi Guys,

New to this forum although I am an advertiser. This is not an ad, just needing suggestions and advice.

Had the business for 20 years (the first to do that out of DR and organized such vacations on the planet in 1986) the first 5 years in Ottawa, now near Toronto. http://www.affordable-adult-vacations.com/

I worked with 90% Canadians and 10% Americans and International, after the Internet is the other way around.

Some of the clients are regular hobbyists most not in to SP but all over the world. The SP will do everything and it is the absolute GIF experience BUT not professionals as we know, impossible to train and working for very short time, 5 months, 1 year and they are out of the business getting married to whom ever they can find especially out of their country.

Do not get me wrong, I have control.

The Internet has killed me with companies opening and closing every month, mostly of ex-clients thinking they are going to make money without knowing anything about Hospitality or Adult business.

Any advice or suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Alexis

PS. Needing SP or Dancers at the resort for PR and Socialising with Guests, I will post an ad in the Help Wanted forum shortly.

 

[alexisz]

Suggestions....

Already started a list of suggestions/advice.
have sent the link to your suggestion and I am sure they will take it under consideration, otherwise I will get a flight with Air Canada to the Island and all hell will break loose down there.

Thanks Alexis

 

[David_peza]

1)Get a better looking website, something that will stimulate us and will keep us looking for more information.
2)Get better looking girls.

 

[Vietor]

Do you know who your target client is? How can you differentiate your service offering from your competitors? The number of years and extensive experience that you have should be one of the differentiating factors. Have you employed or have a relationship with someone who is adept at Net advertising?

After reviewing your website, two additional recommendations come to mind: First, you should have a proofreader correct the misspellings and grammatical errors. Second, I suggest fewer pictures of your escorts but of a higher quality. At least some of the pictures should be done professionally and should seek to accentuate their beauty.

Good luck!

 

[Tao]

2)Get better looking girls.

Agreed

To go down there at those prices for that kinda looking talent
Book yourself into any all inclusive in the D/R and find better looking company on your own for WAY less

 

[MarkII]

The idea of a better website certainly is correct. Right now it's very "information" oriented. Thats good, but the design doesn't really speak to anyone personally when they visit.

You need the website to trigger a response, some interest. As it is now it's a hodgepodge of what appears to be honest information, but there's no marketing to be seen.

Look at the successful SP's who advertise here in Toronto, their sites are well thought with just enough info to create the desire to learn more.

You'll get what you spend back in customers or at the very least requests for more information.

The pictures of the ladies are not the best. If someone is about to lay out about 2500 USD plus flight, the "susy spead legs" type of photo is not going to tweak their interest. They'll also want more info on the food and it's quality, along with a nice photo layout of the accomadations.

Right now it look tacky. Sorry but that was my first impression.

M2

 

[pete58]

Good Price, Lousy Marketing:

The idea of a better website certainly is correct. Right now it's very "information" oriented. Thats good, but the design doesn't really speak to anyone personally when they visit.

You need the website to trigger a response, some interest. As it is now it's a hodgepodge of what appears to be honest information, but there's no marketing to be seen.

Look at the successful SP's who advertise here in Toronto, their sites are well thought with just enough info to create the desire to learn more.

You'll get what you spend back in customers or at the very least requests for more information.

The pictures of the ladies are not the best. If someone is about to lay out about 2500 USD plus flight, the "susy spead legs" type of photo is not going to tweak their interest. They'll also want more info on the food and it's quality, along with a nice photo layout of the accomadations.

Right now it look tacky. Sorry but that was my first impression.

M2

I would have to agree, I've always wanted to take a getaway vacation but did not want to go alone. The price is excellant and well within my price range, but the website simply does not inspire me with confidence. Also you would have to have some way of clients being able to check out your operation to make sure it was legitimate and not a scam. Definitely more & better pictures of the ladies, accomodations, food etc are a must. If you can do that, you'll have more business than you can handle.

 

[alexisz]

suggestions

Let me see how I can answer all questions and thanks for your advice.

1. To: Tao,
there is not any all inclusive resort in (DR) that will allow the girls in, you know that. You can go out side they will negotiate with you for a N.A price, you will be able to get a fare price to your liking out of your all inclusive resort and by the middle of the night you will be robbed by her boyfriend, this is the reason I never hire locals and they all have to live under my roof in absolute control and take care of them whether they work or not.
I had my company in DR for 15 years but I could not find better looking girls than in Margarita, unless you are a nice looking play-boy with a lot of money to spend in the casinos.

2. To: Vietor,
The market is not so large to target, you have to work with hobbyists, newbies that shiver on the idea (not about money) but just what to expect, female executives and of course couples.
No relationship with someone adapt on Net advertising.
I agree with your last two recommendations, my webmaster is working on that with the four new services I will provide out of the Caribbean by March, I think you will approve.

3. To: David_peza
I agree regarding the site, is going to be better but not until Feb.-Mar. due to new services I will offer, covering all Caribbean.
For the other suggestion, please read the newsletter below I posted on the site.

"May I choose a Russian Escort?"
"May I choose a North American Escort?"

Since I know the Adult Business very well, the answer is "Yes Of Course, however, I will have to charge more."

I get phone calls every week from North American and European Escorts wanting to work with us in our resort. They know how hard they work and how much better their life would be working for me but they decline when they understand my wage scale.

The basic premise to Adult Caribbean Vacations is first that the resort must be located in the Caribbean with a number of suitable existing hotels. The second is the destination country must have a low cost of living. These two factors are essential.

"Why does the vacation cost so much?"
"Why does the vacation cost so little?"

The vacation package price reflects mostly the cost of the escort.

The escorts we use have specifically chosen to work with us rather than on the street, which is very dangerous in many respects. Our escorts are always girls trying to earn a living in a tough world. They appreciate how we look after them while they try to support their families.

Nevertheless, they are also young ladies and like to have a good time. Since they are not hardened street prostitutes, they easily become infatuated with guests. I am not very happy about it but I have lost 12 girls to marriage proposals in the last two years alone. This fact demonstrates how easily the girls relax and just have a good time. When the escorts have good time, you get what every adult traveler wants.


Packages prices for One week:

* Vacation with a North American escort $15,000 - $18,000
* Vacation with an Eastern European escort $ 7,000 - $ 9,000

Affordable Adult Vacation with local escorts/
Adult Caribbean Vacations $ 2,750

* You must choose the escort and pay full price in advance.

* You will not be able to change or reschedule your vacation.

* There is no opportunity to change the escort if you have a personality clash,
you also get, North American street mentality.
My tour is an enjoyable package and a great vacation at an affordable price.


To: M2,
I guess you are absolutely right, the same response in two hours since I posted the thread. I will follow the advice although I still belive on information rather than flashy things.

Alexis

 

[alexisz]

Pete 58

OK Pete,

I am the only registered company in N. America for 20 years regarding if I am legit with an office.
Any body else you do not even know where they operate out from or if it is just a site that you put up in an hour.
Regarding the site I get the message you are right.

Alexis

 

[Dutch too]

Need to differentiate and move up

IMHO you need to change the name for a start. If you are in the business of Adult vacations you are selling a dream and excitement. Sorry but "Affordable Adult Vacations" sounds like you are in the bargain basement.
Agree with the others that the website needs a refresh, and you should make the point that you have been in the business for a while, unlike your competition which comes and goes.

You might consider two tier service as well, the basic rate for most but a higher rate with say two escorts all day for the high rollers who really want an experience to remember.

 

[Perry Mason]

My $0.02's worth

Ultimately, what you provide is an erotic fantasy.

Most men seeking such an adventure, expect it to be Champagne quality.

You have to promise and then deliver Champagne.

That can't be done on a beer budget.

Your competition in the Dominican charge much more... and the DR is not nearly as nice as Margarita, and less expensive, too... and their women are not, in general, as beautiful as those pretty Vanezuelans -- at least, IMHO!

I think you are choking your potential by cost cutting to offer a bargain to people that can afford and expect to pay more.

And, as has been said, your web site may be chockful of useful information, but lacks powerful marketing and promotional values.

Perry

 

[b821332]

Alexis is still around!

I went on one theses vacations when in was in Ottawa. We stayed in Puerto Plata. The girls were great but they all wanted to go to South Coast. All in all it was a great experience. I lost track of him when he moved. Alexis really knows what he is doing. You need to relax a let him plan things for you.

Web site Comments. First of all his web site answers every questiona shy guy could ask. There is difference between you hobbiest and the a lot of his guests who are generally shy. OK lets suppose he has a lot of knock out pictires on his web site. I bet you any money most of them would have moved on by the time you scheduled your trip. No offense ladies but girls tend to move on when they get bored.

If what he was doing was a scam his web site would be the slickest thing since teflon spray. In any case the only thing that the web site needs to do is get you to call him so he can answer any of your questions.

Affordable! How much do you want to pay for a adult vacation? Did you guys read his post. "Why does it cost so Much? So little?" Mostly people reading this board are hobbiest who think that the vacation does not cost enough. However, Hobbiest aren't the only guys wanting an adult vacation.

It was a great time and it is still worth the trip.

B8

 

[alexisz]

Perry Masson

Ohhh Perry,

I thought the same too and lost some serious $$.

In early 80,s I had a private jet out of Ottawa to fly to your departure city and destination afterwards, deals with limos to drive you from home to the airport no matter which city you lived, all over the world not just in N. America.

You know what I found out???

If you could afford my vacation, you could easily pick the phone and ask your secretary to find you a Penthouse centerfold with a hotel in Bahamas, Rio or Vegas. When you have this kind of money you do not need me.

I experimented with these services and prices and I experimented with the lowest dirt rates on earth for those services.
Services and rates more or less are right, after 20 years and what my market will accept.
Believe me if you need Champaign quality, you could have done so yourself, with your own itinerary without my help.

 

[alexisz]

Bass8lbs

Call me 1-800-919-9794, I might have some suggestions.

Alexis

 

[Perry Mason]

So what are you saying, b821332?

This is a hobbyist's board... if comment is sought here, then I infer it is about a hobbyist's perspective on how to make the service more appealing to hobbyists, not to non-hobbyists?!

But the question, then, is for Alexis: Who is your audience? Who is your customer? Describe a typical client? Because that is the first and most important question in marketing!

If you are trying to sell hobbying services to non-hobbyists, then I think you are trying to push water uphill... and that is why your web site is so unfocused. IMHO, of course!

And my first thoughts are that a non-hobbyist would expect even more than a hobbyist and be willing to pay more, too! I suspect that an extra $500 to $750 would not make that much difference to the non-hobbyist and would do wonders in terms of enabling you to enhance the quality of your services.

Perry

 

[Perry Mason]

Alexis:

You were posting your last post while I was writing mine.

Well, it seems you may have been trying to sell Dom Perignon to people who had cellars full of them.

There are many other champagnes. There are choices other than Dom Perignon for those who can't afford it!

But how did you lose money selling Dom Perignon to Dom Perignon lovers? Were you, perhaps, pricing it to lose money on every bottle? Because, give me lovers of Dom Perignon that can afford it, and I will up-market them to even better and more expensive Champagnes with even better margins!

Perry

 

[b821332]

Hey Perry

The vacation is for anyone who wants a good warm POA 2 -3 times a day for week. If you have more stamina than that, you can choose an extra escort for a couple of days.

Nice idea about the champagne but it gets very expensive and franky the beer (Presidente) and (Brugal) rum are great. Why ruin a good thing with some expensive fizzy pop. Perhaps Alexis can do a luxury cruise or something so you guys can get a special experience. Is Playboy in here here somewhere?

The girls Alexis picks are just supporting their families. They do not act so much like escorts. They are just girls having fun. As a matter of fact according to the web site Aleixs has lost more than 10 girls to marriage THIS YEAR. I am not sure why anyone would ruin a good GFE with a marriage proposal but to each his own.

Why don't you take a trip and write a report?

B8

 

[alexisz]

Hi Timdog,

These are the ones that just visit the resort because they are my friends, PR and Socilizing, on the other hand you can make your own deal with them and pay what they ask you, they are not included in the package. I cannot believe you, "you will propably book" when to have any one of them the $2,750 I charge will not last for 1/2 a day. Are you serious? The escort 24/7, an extra one for another day for a threesome, private car and driver, all meals and drinks for both of you 24/7, suite accommodations in a 4* resort, any excursion you wish and you will consider?? you must be living on another planet.

Alexis

PS Find me under $2,500 a SP in N.A for 24 hours with you, all meals and drinks, a nice hotel and a private limo and night club time and I will pay your expenses but not a crackhead a real decent SP.

Alexis

 

[alexisz]

let's change the subject

Thanks everybody for the advice, I promise you I will follow most of your recommendations.

Now, I have almost 80 girls working off and on.
They will absolutely do what you ask (within reason) BUT they do not take the initiative, the client has to do that, for half of my clients that are shy and reserved is not good, I am always trying to train them with some success but for you guys in this forum, how do you feel? is a good thing to take the initiative rather than waiting for the girl that does not know how? I just need opinions only from you, that have been around.

Alexis

 

[Guy7]

Adult Vacation

Hi Guys,

New to this forum although I am an advertiser. This is not an ad, just needing suggestions and advice.

Had the business for 20 years (the first to do that out of DR and organized such vacations on the planet in 1986) the first 5 years in Ottawa, now near Toronto. http://www.affordable-adult-vacations.com/

I worked with 90% Canadians and 10% Americans and International, after the Internet is the other way around.

Some of the clients are regular hobbyists most not in to SP but all over the world. The SP will do everything and it is the absolute GIF experience BUT not professionals as we know, impossible to train and working for very short time, 5 months, 1 year and they are out of the business getting married to whom ever they can find especially out of their country.

Do not get me wrong, I have control.

The Internet has killed me with companies opening and closing every month, mostly of ex-clients thinking they are going to make money without knowing anything about Hospitality or Adult business.

Any advice or suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Alexis

PS. Needing SP or Dancers at the resort for PR and Socialising with Guests, I will post an ad in the Help Wanted forum shortly.

Try and organise a Nice Package for our Terb Members, for 1-week Tour either to Vanezeula or D.R. with full boarding/lodging, return Air-Fare & ofcourse lovely sexy Companion each night for each guest with affordable donation/tribute for the whole package, lots of our Terb Members would love to take this opportunity if you offer them at a right price as your introductory promotion.