About dating today's young women: a young male's perspective

Samurai Joey

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It does. Sorry but WHAT delicacy is she eating?
I had asked Don the same question and he replied that it is pan-seared spicy pork cut lean. And the picture is not actually photoshopped to look like a pussy, that's what the actual picture of the sliced pork happened to look like (personally I didn't really see the resemblance until mentioned by other posters, and was amused by the responses).
 

GPIDEAL

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I had asked Don the same question and he replied that it is pan-seared spicy pork cut lean. And the picture is not actually photoshopped to look like a pussy, that's what the actual picture of the sliced pork happened to look like (personally I didn't really see the resemblance until mentioned by other posters, and was amused by the responses).
Ya I saw his answer too but I couldn't help BUT to think that it was a slice of pussy.

How nice. Senor Draper picks a pic of his type of girl eating his type of meat.
 

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Winstar,

Are you thinking of Ariel Levy's Female Chauvinist Pigs: Women And The Rise Of Raunch Culture ?
No, it definitely was another book, but it's great to see female authors writing books commenting on the subject. I actually only feel it in Toronto. Most of the girls outside of the country are quite nice actually. Pretty, smart, and kind, and a lot of fun to be around. I remember one year abroad this really really extremely hot 20 year old asked me if she could take me out on my birthday, and secretly threw a surprise party for me. We went to a really nice restaurant, and all of her friends and mine were there. She then asked the staff if they could make me a special drink and they came back with THE most amazing drink I ever had, with every type of liquor the restaurant had, free of charge. It was about a litre. The restaurant even provided wine on the house. I actually only met her two weeks earlier, and she was so nice. I definitely thanked her properly afterwards.

Another time, I went to a bar in Boston, and the ladies (this really hot college pair), bought me a drink and wanted to get to know me. It was so easy to talk with them, and because they were so sweet, I ended up going back to their place that night. They knew what they wanted and there was no pretense.

Yet another time I was on the road and made a stop at a McD's on a highway stopover, and there were these really hot blonde twins working there (probably late teens to early twenties). I told my friend who was driving to go back to the restaurant, but to go through the drive through and tell them that we thought X and Y were cute. They took their break, and met us outside in the parking lot and sent us away happy.

Yet another time I was abroad, and these two girls asked me out to go with them to a bar as it was my last night. One of them looked like a really hot version of Rachel Leigh Cook, and her friend was pretty hot as well. They just kept buying me shot after shot, and we went home back to the place we all were staying. I stayed with one girls, and then her roommate joined us until early morning. Actually it was interesting because these girls were from the US, and I was with a group of Canadian girls, for ten days, and none of them would even give me the time of day. The girls from America came in four days before we were leaving, and were so nice, and on the last day made me feel really good about myself. The Canadian girls were awful and stuck up. I hated being around them. They didn't make me feel good about myself, irrespective of whether we had sex or not.

When I was in Montreal, the concierge girl at the hotel I was staying was so nice and helpful and told me all the places I should check out while there. I was staying at a high end hotel, and she was smoking. One night I came back home, and she made reservations for me to go to one of the best jazz bars in the city, as a surprise. She got off at that time, so I imagined she wanted me to invite her out. I ended up calling her and asking if should would like to join me in my suite. We ended up staying in that night, making our own jazz.

I could go on, but the girls are just so hilarious in Toronto. They spend all this time getting ready to go out, looking good, and then go back home bored out of their minds, with their girlfriends playing mother goose, cock blocking, acting like they are protecting them, but secretly despising the fact that their friend is getting more attention then they are, so they have to kill it for both of them - that is, if the girl likes a guy in the first place.

Go elsewhere and you will find girls that worship you. And you don't have to read stupid books like the Game, and act like someone you're not. The girls in let's say America, go out with douchbags because they have no choice. When someone with class steps up, they flock. The girls in Toronto on the otherhand will actually prefer a douche over a man with their act together. It's absurd. Plus the girls in the States are SO nice. And really really very fun to be around. Once I had these experiences, particularly the one with the group of American girls when I was abroad with the Canadian girls, to compare, I have never looked back. When I am in Toronto, I don't bother to call anyone to go out. I hobby. Then I go back to the States and have a ball. Life is so short, especially as a young man. Don't waste it with bitter girls. Spend your time on women who know your value and have the guts and smarts to go after it.
 

blackrock13

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No, it definitely was another book, but it`s great to see female authors writing books commenting on the subject. I actually only feel it in Toronto. Most of the girls outside of the country are quite nice actually. Pretty, smart, and kind, and a lot of fun to be around. I remember one year abroad this really really extremely hot 20 year old asked me if she could take me out on my birthday, and secretly threw a surprise party for me. We went to a really nice restaurant, and all of her friends and mine were there. She then asked the staff if they could make me a special drink and they came back with THE most amazing drink I ever had, with every type of liquor the restaurant had, free of charge. It was about a litre. The restaurant even provided wine on the house. I actually only met her two weeks earlier, and she was so nice. I definitely thanked her properly afterwards.

Another time, I went to a bar in Boston, and the ladies (this really hot college pair), bought me a drink and wanted to get to know me. It was so easy to talk with them, and because they were so sweet, I ended up going back to their place that night. They knew what they wanted and there was no pretense.

Yet another time I was on the road and made a stop at a McD`s on a highway stopover, and there were these really hot blonde twins working there (probably late teens to early twenties). I told my friend who was driving to go back to the restaurant, but to go through the drive through and tell them that we thought X and Y were cute. They took their break, and met us outside in the parking lot and sent us away happy.

Yet another time I was abroad, and these two girls asked me out to go with them to a bar as it was my last night. One of them looked like a really hot version of Rachel Leigh Cook, and her friend was pretty hot as well. They just kept buying me shot after shot, and we went home back to the place we all were staying. I stayed with one girls, and then her roommate joined us until early morning. Actually it was interesting because these girls were from the US, and I was with a group of Canadian girls, for ten days, and none of them would even give me the time of day. The girls from America came in four days before we were leaving, and were so nice, and on the last day made me feel really good about myself. The Canadian girls were awful and stuck up. I hated being around them. They didn`t make me feel good about myself, irrespective of whether we had sex or not.

When I was in Montreal, the concierge girl at the hotel I was staying was so nice and helpful and told me all the places I should check out while there. I was staying at a high end hotel, and she was smoking. One night I came back home, and she made reservations for me to go to one of the best jazz bars in the city, as a surprise. She got off at that time, so I imagined she wanted me to invite her out. I ended up calling her and asking if should would like to join me in my suite. We ended up staying in that night, making our own jazz.

I could go on, but the girls are just so hilarious in Toronto. They spend all this time getting ready to go out, looking good, and then go back home bored out of their minds, with their girlfriends playing mother goose, cock blocking, acting like they are protecting them, but secretly despising the fact that their friend is getting more attention then they are, so they have to kill it for both of them - that is, if the girl likes a guy in the first place.

Go elsewhere and you will find girls that worship you. And you don`t have to read stupid books like the Game, and act like someone you`re not. The girls in let`s say America, go out with douchbags because they have no choice. When someone with class steps up, they flock. The girls in Toronto on the otherhand will actually prefer a douche over a man with their act together. It`s absurd. Plus the girls in the States are SO nice. And really really very fun to be around. Once I had these experiences, particularly the one with the group of American girls when I was abroad with the Canadian girls, to compare, I have never looked back. When I am in Toronto, I don`t bother to call anyone to go out. I hobby. Then I go back to the States and have a ball. Life is so short, especially as a young man. Don`t waste it with bitter girls. Spend on women who know your value and have the guts and smarts to go after it.
Windstar you`re back!

The last time I remembr you posting anything, it was that you were leaving this great country to live and work in one that appreciate a gentleman like you.

Remember this post in the Europe vs North America;

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...ith-Friends)&p=3087693&highlight=#post3087693

Fair point.

"I am in the process of leaving. Found a place, got a job, doing what I love, and will be moving there within the next couple of months. And it was much easier for me to get a high paying job there than here. The place I am going rewards and values smart people.

There`s moving smartly and moving stupidly. While I do not like it here, I am not just going to pack up and leave and do so in the most vulnerable way. It`s a process that involves immigration protocols that I must follow between both countries, the process sometimes taking years. Plus, although I do not like it here, most of my friends and family are here, and do not necessarily want to move for reasons relevant to them. Leaving them is also a big consideration. Both of these issues are irrelevant to my view on Canada though.

But to get back to the OP`s original point, the girls definitely are hotter, nicer, kinder, and enjoy sex (and don`t sabotage things with the idiocy Canadian girls seem to do) elsewhere. I see my move from Canada as evolving forward and not behind."

Did it not work out in wherever you went? OR did it never happen? Apparently you can`t stay away from here as you keep coming back. Picking up that monthly cheque, are we?

We could include a few more of your comments about Canadian women and Canada in general, but I`ll leave that for another post or for others to dig into.

I`ll end this post with another classic of yours from time same thread;

post #23, `Canada is shit. Nuff said."

Apparently, others think like me as well

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...ith-Friends)&p=3087480&viewfull=1#post3087480
 

luvzgirlz

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Not to totally defend Toronto girls, but I have to say, you guys are forgetting the "doesn't live here" factor. When you go off to Europe, those girls know you're not from Europe. So they're much more open to sleeping with you, because you don't know them or their friends or the families. It's a freebie. They don't have to worry about what people think, or even people finding out. It liberates them a lot more.

There's more to being friendly than just giving you sex at the drop of a hat, as Winstar seems to define it. Sorry, but girls who meet you out in the Mcdonald's parking lot during their break and blow you aren't doing it because they're friendly. That's just fucking sketchy behaviour.

I'm not especially good looking, I'm not well-endowed (at all), but if I go out and talk to girls, most nights, I can meet someone. And if I choose, I can date them. I don't find the Toronto scene to be the nightmare you guys are describing.
 

lankey

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self admitted loser chimes in

To be blunt, I am a geek. I have spent my entire life in study and work. On the rare occassions where I have been in some sort of relationship I have never cheated and never will. I don't strike up conversations easily as I don't know what to talk about. This makes me the penultimate "geek loser" that often sits alone in a bar in the far corner with a beer. I'm not bad looking at 6'2" and 210 lbs but I am clearly a geek on sight. What this means is that the whole "get a date on a Saturday night" has never really happened for me in my entire 47 years and I have accepted this for what it is. The most frightening moments in life are those stupid times when I am expected to make an appearance somewhere "with guest". Times like graduation in University. High School was a no brainer as I simply did not go to the prom so that was easy. Corporate functions are generally avoided or at least kept to a minimum. I go to the TSO often and really love great music. I will admit, with all honesty, that I hired an SP to go with me to see "Driving Miss Daisy" back in 1989. She seemed quite happy that I wasn't trying to do anything kinky in the dark but probably would have been fine with a hand in the blouse during the quiet moments of the movie.

The point is, I guess, is that I am the "nice guy" that talks softly, rarely ever does anything unexpected and would be boring as hell.

I do like to call up CachetLadies and ask for a wonderful lady to come out and just have drinks at the bar with me. Mostly so that I don't sit in the corner by myself.

As for dating the Toronto lday .. nope. I gave up years ago. I made my own discoveries and did my own research and have empirical data that tells me .. it is a waste of effort.

Not sure if I have a point here .. but at least I did chime in with total abject honesty.

Oh, last item, Mahler's Symphony No. 5 is playing at the TSO tomorrow night and I'll probably go alone or with a really nicely dressed SP that can be trusted to not do anything silly. I'm generally happy just with the company.

See .. told you, boring. That's just me.

signed : lanky geek
 
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lankey

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Been there .. done that. No thanks but I thank you for the sentiment. To express the concept with real valid experience I pay about $3500 a month to the "cougar" who had two kids from a previous marriage. When it was clear that the relationship wasn't really working out after about six months she instantly became pregnant. Well, within 21 days at least. So, that ends that discussion.
 

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Also, right now I am thinking about Kylie Daniels who can probably dress up nice and go to the TSO with me. However I have not even sent the email asking "art thou available" yet. I better get moving on that. The next thing I really want to do is go for a late night drive to Niagara Falls. I just bought a sports car and it would be cool to drive out in the middle of the night to Niagara Falls. I spend so much time alone that I was staring at the passenger seat thinking "why do I even have two seats in this thing?" Seriously pathetic I know.
 

FatOne

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Sorry, but girls who meet you out in the Mcdonald's parking lot during their break and blow you aren't doing it because they're friendly. That's just fucking sketchy behaviour.
They do it because they are figments of another persons imagination.

She then asked the staff if they could make me a special drink and they came back with THE most amazing drink I ever had, with every type of liquor the restaurant had, free of charge. It was about a litre. The restaurant even provided wine on the house. I actually only met her two weeks earlier, and she was so nice.

I stopped reading at that point. Anyone who believed this shit is truly a moron.
 

winstar

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For those who are frustrated with dating in Toronto, it's obvious you're not alone and the experiences seem consistent. My advice is to look elsewhere. I have and am so happy about it. For all the haters, keep on hating, it makes no difference to me. My current girlfriend is smokin hot, just turned 21, and super intelligent (she is majoring in genetic engineering, and works for some of the best labs in the States). Her friends are just as smoking and really nice. It's a good life. I am much happier now than to justify things to some of the well known douches on this board, who I am certain don't have the quality of life I am enjoying right now. I am just sharing what works for me. I probably should just keep it to myself though. Forget what I said, yes, everything was made up and not true. Toronto girls are the very best. Keep on doing what you are doing.

I also thought it was funny of someone to comment about me getting a blowjob by some hot girls that I just met as sketchy on an escort review board. Whatever.
 

blackrock13

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For those who are frustrated with dating in Toronto, it's obvious you're not alone and the experiences seem consistent. My advice is to look elsewhere. I have and am so happy about it. For all the haters, keep on hating, it makes no difference to me. My current girlfriend is smokin hot, just turned 21, and super intelligent (she is majoring in genetic engineering, and works for some of the best labs in the States). Her friends are just as smoking and really nice. It's a good life. I am much happier now than to justify things to some of the well known douches on this board, who I am certain don't have the quality of life I am enjoying right now. I am just sharing what works for me. I probably should just keep it to myself though. Forget what I said, yes, everything was made up and not true. Toronto girls are the very best. Keep on doing what you are doing.

I also thought it was funny of someone to comment about me getting a blowjob by some hot girls that I just met as sketchy on an escort review board. Whatever.
I guess someone has to be intelligent to in this pairing, but I don't understand, she IS majoring in Genetic Engineering and IS working in some of the best labs in the states. So your Shangri-La that you were so private about is the US.

'Toronto girls are the best? They sure are great, but your posting history makes that a 180 turn around. You seem to think no one has a memory around. You and PUA were such a scream with what you said about the dating/pick up scene and especially race.
 

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I think that the lack of social and communication skills is one of the biggest problems. Young people don't socialise nearly as much as the generations before. They know everything about social networks, texting, computer games etc. but know nothing about interacting with other people. My friend in his 40s has a girlfriend in her late 20s. He's not that loaded, just a regular guy with a house, mortgage, like everybody else. Not a Brad Pitt type. She says that she has no interest in guys of her age because they are just boring.
 

winstar

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Yup, and am enjoying all the hot white college pussy I am getting in the States. Finger licking good. Yum:)
 

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To be blunt, I am a geek. I have spent my entire life in study and work. On the rare occassions where I have been in some sort of relationship I have never cheated and never will. I don't strike up conversations easily as I don't know what to talk about. This makes me the penultimate "geek loser" that often sits alone in a bar in the far corner with a beer. I'm not bad looking at 6'2" and 210 lbs but I am clearly a geek on sight.

See .. told you, boring. That's just me.

signed : lanky geek

What in god's name do you get an escort for? Go alone. No one is required to have a date for anything. Be single and proud. Fuck escorts on your terms, not because you have some goddamned company function to go to. Jeezus. Talk about giving in to the thinking of others. Grow a spine!!!
 

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Been there .. done that. No thanks but I thank you for the sentiment. To express the concept with real valid experience I pay about $3500 a month to the "cougar" who had two kids from a previous marriage. When it was clear that the relationship wasn't really working out after about six months she instantly became pregnant. Well, within 21 days at least. So, that ends that discussion.
Ah shit. See where your spinelessness gets you.

Damn.

That's a real shitty deal there friendo. Real shitty.

My condolences.

Well, at least you have offspring in the world and in stake in this shithole of a world. Was your child cute? Do you even get to see him or her?

Sometimes it sucks being a man...
 

AlannaJohnson

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The fact that you guys are spending this entire thread talking about dating actually gives me some faith in the male species ;-)

From my own experience and that of my 20s-30s gf's (not all 'industry girls' btw) we women are just as confused as you!

If you'll allow me some comments from my own female perspective (and that of many of my gf's)...

1. The 'got game' part definitely does apply. Most women will gravitate towards a charming and successful guy. Having money alone does not qualify as 'having game.' e.g. I was out last nite with a couple of my hottie gf's. One of them ran into a guy she had met before at another club. The guy was a Doctor so my gf was like 'Mmm, Dr... ;)' I'm not gonna comment on that, other than to say it became obvious very soon that the young man had no game -- he seemed 'not at ease' in the place, definitely not funny, and not the best looking guy on the block either. My gf then ended up chatting the whole nite with a much older gent who was showing genuine interest in her, and being charming etc.

2. Guys, the 'Dutch' thing doesn't work. I knowww, it's not fair to you guys, in a society where women have virtually the same work opportunities as men do... BUT... as women we still expect the guy to pay (for most things.) I have to tell you as a woman (and this is the consensus among virtually all my gf's -- industry or not), that there's no bigger turn-off than a 'cheap guy.'
I still remember this one 1st (and last) double date with a couple of guys. The guys invited my gf and I to dinner. We didn't even go to an expensive place -- Spring Rolls, hello-o? The whole bill for 4 people came to ~$100; when the bill came, the guys paid their part, then showed us our half of the bill (!!) My gf and I were speechless. (We did pay our part, and of course, never saw those ******* again.)
Guys, I can't emphasize this point enough -- as women, we may offer to pay, and be fully capable of paying; your job for the most part is to decline, or just let us pay symbolic amounts like the waitress' tip.
We will be even more offended if we happen to know you do have money, and you still wanna go Dutch.
To a woman, this spells 'cheap' and 'you don't value me enough.'
Either way you put it, Big Turn-Off.
To sum up, unless you're already in a relationship with a woman, and at a point where you now share finances, paying for dates is a man's job, and doing so will definitely endear you to Most women. (Maybe with the exception of the femiNazi and then good luck with those!)

3. Lastly, and this is just my own experience talking: pls. don't be desperate. I personally don't appreciate a guy sending me Numerous texts/a guy who calls me all the time in the initial phases of dating. That's just creepy ok? Love professions early on: creepy also. A few texts a week + mayyybe 1-2 phone-calls/week in the initial stages is just fine, thanks!

The reverse of showing Too much interest is a guy who doesn't make Enough of an effort. My biggest pet-peeve is a guy who doesn't think it necessary to plan a date ahead, and who'll call me on a Thu/Fri for a Sat nite date :-( Um yeah, good luck with that! If you want to see a girl on the weekend, yes you Should ask her to reserve the date for you no later than Wed nite. That's polite and it shows that you're interested enough in her. She will appreciate your thoughtfulness.

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Thanks for reading; at the risk of sounding like another 'stuck-up TO b----', I thought you guys may like to hear from the other side of the fence. Guys always tell me 'Don't hate the player, hate the game.' I Do sometimes, and if my comments make you hate the game too, pls. don't hate the player ;-)

Much luv,
 
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