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You have to separate the wheat from the chaff, Dustin Hoffman is a great actor and a finger hockey player.
When the legendary Tuco Ramirez said, "I like big fat guys like you, when you fall you make a hell of a noise", he may as well have been talking about Harvey Weinstein. He is a pig but, again, not all are to be believed.
When I heard about Louis CK I immediately thought: "yeah I can see him doing that, but at least he ASKED". At that point, despite whatever "power dynamics" might loom over one's head, you have a choice.
He shouldn't be lumped into the same category as rapists and gropers like Bill Cosby and Donald Trump (respectively).
1) how many women (that you just met) have you guys asked to masterbate in front of? I am betting it is a low number if not zero. Most people of sound mind know that it is inappropriate. Asking for permission doesn't make it a whole lot better since we know that in normal circumstances the probability of a yes is next to zero.
2) while it would have been nice for the woman to complain to her bosses..... I can understand the fear she faced. I mean LCK is the headline act and you are a stand up comedian getting your first big break. If you file a complaint, it's back to Yuk Yuks and what not for you if you are lucky.
Sure what LCK did was not as bad as HW BUT like HW, LCK should have known better. The reason they are lumped together is not that they have done equally bad things.
They are lumped together because they are famous people who have done sexually inappropriate things.
If anything I think it highlights that even if a person says "yes" or doesn't say "no" you could still be creeping them out.
She goes to great lengths to try and minimize what he did.
Anyways, is he as bad as HW no. In the one case the stand up comedians were in a vulnerable position. So at the very least he is alleged to have committed sexual harassment once. He should have known better.
2) while it would have been nice for the woman to complain to her bosses..... I can understand the fear she faced. I mean LCK is the headline act and you are a stand up comedian getting your first big break. If you file a complaint, it's back to Yuk Yuks and what not for you if you are lucky.
Sure what LCK did was not as bad as HW BUT like HW, LCK should have known better. The reason they are lumped together is not that they have done equally bad things.
They are lumped together because they are famous people who have done sexually inappropriate things.
If anything I think it highlights that even if a person says "yes" or doesn't say "no" you could still be creeping them out.
She goes to great lengths to try and minimize what he did.
Anyways, is he as bad as HW no. In the one case the stand up comedians were in a vulnerable position. So at the very least he is alleged to have committed sexual harassment once. He should have known better.
Louis CK is obsessed with masturbation, he devoted an entire episode of Louie, probably his best, to the activity called Come on God. The line got gray for him because he was admired like no other comic since Richard Pryor. And by no means is Rebecca Corry an opportunist like Leann Tweeden, she's thoroughly believable.
The ending of Come on God is one of the funniest extended joke I've ever seen. Even Loretta Swit is an object.
The ending of Come on God is one of the funniest extended joke I've ever seen. Even Loretta Swit is an object.
This has been a ticking time bomb ever since Trump got away with "grab em by the pussy" and it's far from over.
Eventually CK should be forgiven for his oafish behaviour. Apart from the visual shock, he's never assaulted any woman. He's never claimed to be America's father figure nor has he ever walked with God. He's just a common schmo with a knack for making people laugh. The admiration he was getting from his peers went to his bald sweaty head.
Ricky Gervais described him best: "he looks like a fat, overripened plum that's been jizzed on". With Jim Florentine.
Ricky Gervais described him best: "he looks like a fat, overripened plum that's been jizzed on". With Jim Florentine.
Is what LouisCK did inappropriate? Sure, by conventional manners, but what constitutes 'appropriate' and 'inappropriate behaviour' is personally-subjective and constantly evolving by popular consensus, and thus cannot be relied upon as an accurate gauge of "morality" (another man-made concept).
20 years ago "appropriate" first-date conversation never ventured towards the sexual. Now in the age of the insta-hookup and ADD attention span people will ask you your favorite sexual position before your meal has even arrived and it's not even necessarily off-putting (ymmv). I personally would never do it, but society has started to slide pretty far with a "cut to the chase" mentality.
