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gramps

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Sorry to hear about this happining to you SSS. Hopfully he won't bother you again and you can get back to being happier.

I'm surprised someone hasn't already taken this sicko out to teach him some manners.
 

Fabulous

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SSS said:
And purpose of this thread to warn others again.
He is still aroud. He is hunting.
The thing about him is that he sounds almost normal on the telephone, but the TIP OFF is that he always offers a large sum of money, usually around $5000.00. He usually targets escorts from Toronto, new and experienced sp's have fallen for his trick. He knows exactly what he is doing and that's his thrill.

I bet his doctors and social workers don't know anything about this - so I think it's time to let them know, maybe they'll lock him up in a mental institution, cause that's exactly where he belongs. Another thing is - now he is actually committing a crime - when you hold someone against their will - doesn't matter for how long - and prevent them from leaving is a crime. You could also submit an annonymous tip to http://222tips.ca/ at least the police would have some sort of record of the incident. I bet this happens more than we actually hear about it, what about the escorts he targets who don't use the internet! I think he is becoming more dangerous as time passes and he gets away with it so much. This must be a huge confidence booster to him and an encouragment to continue. Simply because he's not been punished. I think it's important to let the police in Ottawa know about him.
 

SSS

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Fabulous said:
The thing about him is that he sounds almost normal on the telephone, but the TIP OFF is that he always offers a large sum of money, usually around $5000.00. He usually targets escorts from Toronto, new and experienced sp's have fallen for his trick. He knows exactly what he is doing and that's his thrill.

I bet his doctors and social workers don't know anything about this - so I think it's time to let them know, maybe they'll lock him up in a mental institution, cause that's exactly where he belongs. Another thing is - now he is actually committing a crime - when you hold someone against their will - doesn't matter for how long - and prevent them from leaving is a crime. You could also submit an annonymous tip to http://222tips.ca/ at least the police would have some sort of record of the incident. I bet this happens more than we actually hear about it, what about the escorts he targets who don't use the internet! I think he is becoming more dangerous as time passes and he gets away with it so much. This must be a huge confidence booster to him and an encouragment to continue. Simply because he's not been punished. I think it's important to let the police in Ottawa know about him.
i think he've delt with police before.
my personal impression. but i dont think in this situation not much they can do. what charges can they place against a mentally challenged man? really? eventually he'd be back to his basement. and his internet or whatever.
things were fishy, but it is how he was begging you to see him. numerous very whining letters that you dont want to see poor guy and blah blah blah.. making you feel guilty or something. I have told him not to promise me more money though. and I was asking him to travel to Toronto instead, but he was making up excuses. Those were signs I should reacted to, but I have not. When you're occupied with other things the same time it is not easy to think clearly and react right. At least in my case I have not used my common sence. Was too much under pressure of my own stuff in my own life to analyze and prevent things from happening.
But I'm glad we're talking about that now and here.

If there are people who have problems with this disscusion, I appologize. But I believe it is serious topic. Guy like Mark are rotten in our fun community.
 

Fabulous

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i think he've delt with police before.
my personal impression. but i dont think in this situation not much they can do. what charges can they place against a mentally challenged man? really? eventually he'd be back to his basement. and his internet or whatever.
Just because he is a retard doesn't mean he is immune from prosecution of a crime. Besides jail time, his punishment and conditions could include that he is not allowed to have internet, and stay away from sex workers or he goes back to jail or mental hospital.

All I can tell you is that he will not stop on his own. He has been doing this for YEARS, at least 5-7 years that I've known of him. He's tried it on me so many times over the years, he emails, he calls, sometimes he doesn't remember who he's targeted before.

Just be thankfull you got out of it alive and without bodily injuries. It's a learning lesson, unfortunatelly some of us have to go through. You can look at it at as blessing in disguise - you learned - no one else will ever do that to you! You warned other escorts. Whatever you do - don't let it get to you. Don't feel like a fool. It could be that you just needed this lesson to prevent something more horrible happening in your life in the future. We all learn from our mistakes. Always listen to your spidey sense.
 

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Fabulous said:
Just because he is a retard doesn't mean he is immune from prosecution of a crime. Besides jail time, his punishment and conditions could include that he is not allowed to have internet, and stay away from sex workers or he goes back to jail or mental hospital.

All I can tell you is that he will not stop on his own. He has been doing this for YEARS, at least 5-7 years that I've known of him. He's tried it on me so many times over the years, he emails, he calls, sometimes he doesn't remember who he's targeted before.

Just be thankfull you got out of it alive and without bodily injuries. It's a learning lesson, unfortunatelly some of us have to go through. You can look at it at as blessing in disguise - you learned - no one else will ever do that to you! You warned other escorts. Whatever you do - don't let it get to you. Don't feel like a fool. It could be that you just needed this lesson to prevent something more horrible happening in your life in the future. We all learn from our mistakes. Always listen to your spidey sense.
Thank you very much!
I really need it. It means a lot to me.

a quick question. he've sent me some post cards and some files with music. since then i have funny things with my keyboard... is there possibility he smart enough to send me some kind of virus? my cursor is jumping to different places when I'm typing all of a sudden... didn't happen before. I cannot trace it with any of antivirus. Another spooky thing after MM experience. brrrrr...
have to find a way to fix that.

(he was constantly trying to find my bank account number, or my mortgage information if I have one, or something. is he getting after girls money you think or just personal infomation?)
 

Don

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What I don't understand is why this guy is not locked up somewhere. It is pretty public what this guy is.
 

SSS

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Don said:
What I don't understand is why this guy is not locked up somewhere. It is pretty public what this guy is.
To me it is clear, if he would try to hurt me two night ago physically I would report him to the police, but I have manage to leave without physical harm, just public humiliation he caused me and fear of being with him in his spooky place. If with the time I wont overcome the impact of that interraction I might go further. At this point I'm still thinking what to do with him. I'm not his therapist. I wont be able to know how actually legal system might prevent this individual from repeating his deeds. I do have a risk, he has none. He has no family, no one who loves him, he doesn't love any one. So that is why he was never panished for what he has done before. He would not even feel a difference. At least not for a long time. I do not consider short term panishment satisfying enough. Banning is good, but he will find another way to get back online. Not if that is hard to do.
So, anything that might work with normal person is not good enough with that man. That is my opinion. But he is potentially dangerous for those who is not aware of his presence. As his medical condition can most likely can get worsen. People with mania must get proper professional help.
 

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It's good that people are sharing info on him, I'd bet the cops have a file on him you could add to.

Many like him tend to target those who show vulnerability, don't show that side of yourself online.
It's a business, be professional, show confidence and strength. Don't let him know he got to you.
If Mark is reading this, please get checked in and get your acknowledged problem sorted - for your own sake.
 

SSS

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Svend said:
It's good that people are sharing info on him, I'd bet the cops have a file on him you could add to.

Many like him tend to target those who show vulnerability, don't show that side of yourself online.
It's a business, be professional, show confidence and strength. Don't let him know he got to you.
If Mark is reading this, please get checked in and get your acknowledged problem sorted - for your own sake.
I do not have a problem to talk about that right now.
it is not that I'm weak today.
I'm stronger then I was the moment I was there. It might be unpleasant to read for those who have never experienced things like that. Something like to read articles about being raped. But that happens. We learn from our mistakes.
There are numerous reasons we have bad calls. Sometimes it is poor jugments prior the call, sometimes something else. But each time we learn.
Life is a jungle. And I still want to believe that one is allowed to make a mistake, but do not accept the fact that others take advantage of the weaker.

Something that didn't kill me made me stronger. (c)
 

gramps

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SSS said:
I do not have a problem to talk about that right now.
it is not that I'm weak today.
I'm stronger then I was the moment I was there. It might be unpleasant to read for those who have never experienced things like that. Something like to read articles about being raped. But that happens. We learn from our mistakes.
There are numerous reasons we have bad calls. Sometimes it is poor jugments prior the call, sometimes something else. But each time we learn.
Life is a jungle. And I still want to believe that one is allowed to make a mistake, but do not accept the fact that others take advantage of the weaker.

Something that didn't kill me made me stronger. (c)
That's the right way to think. Good for you.
 

Esco!

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SSS said:
I do. I never said otherwise.
that is how I became a target.
we are human too. We have our moments when we are voulnerable. And people like Mark/Kody take advange of us.
Does it make us less human or we do not deserve your sympathy?
I think you misunderstood, I meant it as in....... wow, you have all these creeps to deal with
 

torex

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nice to see you back! ...unfortunately not under these circumstances!:mad:

i'm just happy to see your safe and not harmed physically!!

this goof is beyond the law...he needs an ass kicking!
 
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