A question about LEs

[vyrguy]

Hi guys.

I posted this question elsewhere as part of another thread but I wanted to really open it up so I am reposting here.

"does LE do a lot of "enforcing" or do they tend to "ignore the situation". Just wondering since I am a married hobbyist so getting "busted" would certainly have a huge impact.

Appreciate any feedback

 

[freedom3]

nothing to worry about

There is no danger at all. Simply rent a hotel room and call an outcall. That isn't illegal.

 

[vyrguy]

response for whoseyourdaddy

You are entitled to your opinion and I understand that there is always going to be a certain amount of suspicion on these boards but your statement is incorrect. I have only been a hobbyist for a short period of time. Only visited 2 SPs and mostly settle for the MPs. I joined this board to learn more and get questions answered that are floating around my head since I started "looking elsewhere". Truthfully it never even occurred to me that what I was doing was "illegal". My concerns were more around health issues (STDs) -I have a penchant for DATY- and being robbed or mugged or murdered in some apartment so I gave little thought to LE. This is all very new to me so what may seem very "obvious" to you may not necessarily apply to me.

"Just trying to edumakate myself"

 

[fuji]

So far they seem to be working on a "complaints" basis in Toronto. They have busted incalls only when someone has raised a complaint about it, such as a neighbour.

In some other regions they've been much more aggressive, especially versus massage parlours with extras.

Of course the approach could change any time. The only thing that is certain is that outcall is legal and incall is not.

 

[vyrguy]

freedom. Thanks for your response. Hosting is not an option for me. Even in a hotel room. Besides I'd rather spend the extra money on more SP time/service. Incalls only for me.

 

[HEAVEN LEIGH]

Totally Confused

I read somewhere else on the board that incall in a private residece is not illegal and if you're renting a hotel room it is considered a private residence. No you say incalls are illegal. Can you please advise me where I might me able to research this information?

 

[vyrguy]

I wonder if it is worth the risk in the end

Fuji thanks for the info. It's clearly a high risk game and I'm not sure that I am enough of a playa. Still sex is a powerfull motivator and I do love sex

 

[3Tees]

freedom. Thanks for your response. Hosting is not an option for me. Even in a hotel room. Besides I'd rather spend the extra money on more SP time/service. Incalls only for me.

Well then, it's difficult to answer. All I can say is that you should make sure your SP keeps a low profile in her surroundings - like not being high volume, and not operating in a high security or "conservative" setting where people are nosy and suspicious. However, it is difficult to ask these questions directly - I mean what SP would admit to not being discrete? So, you'll have to use your best judgment.

 

[3Tees]

I read somewhere else on the board that incall in a private residece is not illegal and if you're renting a hotel room it is considered a private residence. No you say incalls are illegal. Can you please advise me where I might me able to research this information?

Assuming that this is your business, your best bet is to consult a criminal lawyer that specializes in this area. I say this because most any business when starting should always consult on the legal aspects of what they do.

I have contributed to some discussions in this area - and given the stakes involved for you, I'm not even going to tell you what I think. Ignore me and the other yahoos on this board who pretend to be lawyers and seek actual professional advice.

 

[tboy]

I read somewhere else on the board that incall in a private residece is not illegal and if you're renting a hotel room it is considered a private residence. No you say incalls are illegal. Can you please advise me where I might me able to research this information?

The law is pretty straightforward on this and you can look it up on the Criminal Code of Canada website or SPOC.

1) A guy renting a hotel room is HIS temporary residence. Therefore having a an sp over for a "date" is not illegal because this is an outcall.
2) An SP renting a hotel room to have men over is an incall to HER temporary residence and is illegal.
3) An incall location is illegal and the charge would be "keeping a common bawdy house" for the owners, or "being a found in" in the case of SPs or customers.
4) Outcalls to hotel rooms and private residences are not illegal (hence the typical charge of conversing for the means of prostitution in public).

I think the basis for the laws being written the way they are is to keep the "traffic" down to a minimum. For eg: a guy having an sp over may only occur once a week, where an sp operating an incall, there could be 5 or more strangers there a day.

As for the OP's comment about MPs: they get busted far more often than any other establishment. Your odds of getting caught there are much higher than anywhere else.

If you are really concerned about the legal issue, you should contact the new advertiser here "copycraigs". He says he can get you a 5 star hotel for next to nothing........

 

[Aardvark154]

Hi guys.

I posted this question elsewhere as part of another thread but I wanted to really open it up so I am reposting here.

"does LE do a lot of "enforcing" or do they tend to "ignore the situation". Just wondering since I am a married hobbyist so getting "busted" would certainly have a huge impact.

Well you have already received loud and clear the message that incall is illegal.

As to how enforcement tends to get done - squeaky wheels get the grease: e.g. the neighbors complain, the police notice and find it peculiar that numbers of men go in and out on a half hourly or hourly basis, "City Hall" for any number of number of reasons decides to apply pressure. The Peel Regional Police are up to their usual stunts. Bottom line do it long enough and the odds are against you.

 

[vyrguy]

well thanks for all your replies

It certainly has been enlightning. I appreciate all the info.