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A phrase that SP's shouldn't use

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smylee52

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I recently had a session with an SP that just reinforced my experience that not all Sp's understand the fantasy aspect of pay for play . Nice greeting at the door , she walks me to the bedroom and as we are standing there doing the high how are you chit chat suddenly she says " let's get the business part out of the way " . I've still got my coat on and I'm thinking oh no this doesn't sound like I've met my new girlfriend for the next half hour . I promptly gave her the money and she went off to count it and get me a towel .

We ended up having an enjoyable time but it was lacking because she really didn't set up a nice sexy mood with the reference to business . I always pay up front and had she given me enough time to get my coat off the donation would have been placed discreetly on the closest available surface then she could have retrieved the donation while I showered . Yes it is her business but part of being successful in the business is never making the client feel that he is a paycheque .

The irony is she says let's get the business part out of the way so she can relax but what happened was it got directly in the way of me having a really good time. I support the ladies getting their money up front but the client has to be given the opportunity to do so before being asked . When asked something like " do you have something for me before we begin " would be nicer than making references to money or business . My .02 cents.
 
Smylee: your fantasy starts after you give her the money, not before. Now she may have been a little quick about it, but don't fault her for that. Face it, you're paying to play and that will never change.

If you really want the fantasy you'll have to become a regular and I've had times when they forget to ask, and on more than one occasion, have had to come back to get it because we both forgot.

I take it this was an incall? Maybe from now on you should pull out the envelope the minute you get into the room and put it on the nightstand. Then you won't have this problem.
 
I agree completely. Most SPs use tact when it comes to this and I haven't had too much of a problem in this regard. I do remember one time, I saw a new lady and the first words out of her mouth were (in a loud voice, no less!) "that will be $$$ for the hour". It really killed the mood, even though she was very enthusiastic in the session itself. As soon as she left, I promptly called the agency and filed a complaint. She was spoken to by the owner, but I never repeated with her even though.
 
Man you guys are a tough crowd. One thing I've found with some newbies (sp's) is that sometimes they say things a little louder because they're nervous.

I am wondering Dr L: was this sp an EE lady? I've noticed that they tend to speak a little louder and seem more blunt about it but that is because of their limited english.

I guess I'm just more understanding when a woman says "give to me money please...." (doing his best boris and natasha accent)
 
Last session I booked I had left the money out in plain sight and she just checked "is that for me?" and we went from there. Well handled by both of us in that case I think.
 
I can understand why that phrase needs to be said, and I am ok with it.

A couple of years ago I met with a popular SP from this board, and after a little chit chat things got hot and heavy. This young lady totally rocked my world for an hour to the point where I completely forgot she was an SP. Honest to god. Just as I was leaving, she said to me, "I think you are forgetting something". For the life of me I could not think of what I was forgetting. She gently reminded me that I had forgotten to pay for the session. My god, I was mortified!!! That is the last thing I would want someone to think about me. Jeezus, 2 years later I'm still a bit embarassed by it.:o

From that time forward, I have always paid in advance.
 
Usually the lady will have some form of "Etiquette" for the proper exchange of a donation. If that information is available on a website. It may be prudent to familiarize yourself with that information before arranging a meeting. Just a thought.
 
Never forget that it's a business and it is all about the money.
 
tboy said:
Man you guys are a tough crowd. One thing I've found with some newbies (sp's) is that sometimes they say things a little louder because they're nervous.

I am wondering Dr L: was this sp an EE lady? I've noticed that they tend to speak a little louder and seem more blunt about it but that is because of their limited english.
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No, she was caucasian. Also she was new to me, but not new to the industry. The way she talked was just part of her personality I guess. I'm not taking anything away from her service, as it was better than most. However, she was just a little too uppity for me, that's all. As well, I value discretion, and don't want people down the hall to hear her request for payment, as it were.
 
smylee52 said:
suddenly she says " let's get the business part out of the way " .
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What did you think she was, your actual girlfriend? Tell her up front what you want, right away. Write a list, if you have to. Believe me, SPs have seen everything. That's what I do and I have ZERO problems. Believe me, I'm more finicky that anyone......and I have 2 girls at once!

Gyaos Baltar.
 
tboy said:
Smylee: your fantasy starts after you give her the money, not before. Now she may have been a little quick about it, but don't fault her for that. Face it, you're paying to play and that will never change.

If you really want the fantasy you'll have to become a regular and I've had times when they forget to ask, and on more than one occasion, have had to come back to get it because we both forgot.

I take it this was an incall? Maybe from now on you should pull out the envelope the minute you get into the room and put it on the nightstand. Then you won't have this problem.
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My fantasy starts the minute I hear her voice on a phone or an intercom . The smart women know that .

I have wonderful fantasy encounters on a regular basis and rarely repeat because I'm in it for the variety . The sex is secondary but usually really good .

This was an incall and I am quite familiar with standard practice at most incalls . I don't use envelopes , I lay cash out on a table and I am never asked as they give you ample time to make the donation . This applies to everyone from the Asian incalls , to the South American incalls , to the Independants to the major agencies . One exception that comes to mind was Asian Lyn who didn't want to handle money and her manager Michael took the donation . Arranged ahead of time and didn't detract from the fantasy with Lyn . Come to think of it her I need to repeat with .
 
I don't ask for the donation. I hate doing that. I will wait till the end of the session and gently remind if it isn't set out on a table or handed to me beforehand.

I have only been shortchanged twice, so my track record is very good.
 
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tboy said:
Smylee: your fantasy starts after you give her the money, not before.
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I think the fantasy should start when a Gentleman walks in... From the greetings, the chit chat, taking his jacket, offering him a drink, walking him to the bedroom and inviting him to take a shower... having everything ready for him in the bathroom, all that with some nice music playing and lots of candles burning!
Let's not forget about the greetings in classy and sexy lingerie!

A true GFE experience doesn't start only when the $ is exchanged!

xox
 
Gyaos said:
What did you think she was, your actual girlfriend? Tell her up front what you want, right away. Write a list, if you have to. Believe me, SPs have seen everything. That's what I do and I have ZERO problems. Believe me, I'm more finicky that anyone......and I have 2 girls at once!

Gyaos Baltar.
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Its not about the service . The service was fine . It's about setting the mood for a fun encounter . Yes I think of them as my girlfriend for the time we spend together and treat them as such . Unlike real life these relationships are measured in minutes and not days , months, years .

BTW I would never give an SP a shopping list of what I want as that , to me , would also be a mood killer . I could see pre-planning a session thru E-mail but once you are face to face and rhyme off your demands I think that's a buzz kill as well .
 
Cloe@EXQUISITE said:
I think the fantasy should start when a Gentleman walks in... From the greetings, the chit chat, taking his jacket, offering him a drink, walking him to the bedroom and inviting him to take a shower... having everything ready for him in the bathroom, all that with some nice music playing and lots of candles burning!
Let's not forget about the greetings in classy and sexy lingerie!

A true GFE experience doesn't start only when the $ is exchanged!

xox
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Very nice Cloe. That's what I call setting the mood . There should be a school for this .
 
smylee52 said:
as we are standing there doing the high how are you chit chat suddenly she says " let's get the business part out of the way "
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This wouldn't bother me at all, but there's a solution if it bothers you: Hand her the money immediately on arrival as your opening line before any chit-chat and if you need to make it a fantasy tell her it's a present, you didn't know what to get for her birthday, or whatever. Actually if you say something cheezy like that most SP's will figure out that you want a total fantasy and play along.

Me, I'm just there for the sex, and it doesn't bother me that it's paid, and I have no problem talking about the business aspects in fact I find it interesting to listen to the SP talk about her business. That's the real her, as best I'm going to get.

For touchy feely emotional relationships I have a wife already.

Anyway, if you are uber-quick about handing over the cash with an appropriate fantasy phrase you'll be less likely to encounter another train-wreck on your way to happy delusion.
 
smylee52 said:
I recently had a session with an SP that just reinforced my experience that not all Sp's understand the fantasy aspect of pay for play . Nice greeting at the door , she walks me to the bedroom and as we are standing there doing the high how are you chit chat suddenly she says " let's get the business part out of the way " . I've still got my coat on and I'm thinking oh no this doesn't sound like I've met my new girlfriend for the next half hour . I promptly gave her the money and she went off to count it and get me a towel .

We ended up having an enjoyable time but it was lacking because she really didn't set up a nice sexy mood with the reference to business . I always pay up front and had she given me enough time to get my coat off the donation would have been placed discreetly on the closest available surface then she could have retrieved the donation while I showered . Yes it is her business but part of being successful in the business is never making the client feel that he is a paycheque .

The irony is she says let's get the business part out of the way so she can relax but what happened was it got directly in the way of me having a really good time. I support the ladies getting their money up front but the client has to be given the opportunity to do so before being asked . When asked something like " do you have something for me before we begin " would be nicer than making references to money or business . My .02 cents.
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Awe..... You are so sweet! Maybe she was nervous, who knows. All i know is that the times we spent together were dynamite! You would never take advantage of an SP!
 
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