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Otis covered this William Bell tune..which WB wrote and recorded
I could listen to "golden era" Stax all day ogibowt.

A few years ago I visited the Stax Museum of American Soul Music in Memphis with my family, which is in the same location as the original Stax studio, but in a modern small building. Fascinating visit, with exhibits including many instruments used by the original house musicians. Of course bought T-shirts and hoodies for all.

Have to admit Graceland was fun too, as well as Beale Street.
 

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I could listen to "golden era" Stax all day ogibowt.

A few years ago I visited the Stax Museum of American Soul Music in Memphis with my family, which is in the same location as the original Stax studio, but in a modern small building. Fascinating visit, with exhibits including many instruments used by the original house musicians. Of course bought T-shirts and hoodies for all.

Have to admit Graceland was fun too, as well as Beale Street.
you know the irony of Stax…...and for that matter Fame and Atlantic Records, which I believe was produced from Muscle Shoals Alabama was that quite a few of the musicians were white and a lot of the songs were written by whites and the ownership was white and for the most part I preferred that sound rather than Motown who had a black founder, predominately black musicians and black writers
 
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I could listen to "golden era" Stax all day ogibowt.

A few years ago I visited the Stax Museum of American Soul Music in Memphis with my family, which is in the same location as the original Stax studio, but in a modern small building. Fascinating visit, with exhibits including many instruments used by the original house musicians. Of course bought T-shirts and hoodies for all.

Have to admit Graceland was fun too, as well as Beale Street.
Another epic and soulful tune. Thanks for sharing!
 

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you know the irony of Stax…...and for that matter Fame and Atlantic Records, which I believe was produced from Muscle Shoals Alabama was that quite a few of the musicians were white and a lot of the songs were written by whites and the ownership was white and for the most part I preferred that sound rather than Motown who had a black founder, predominately black musicians and black writers
Nice to know. Wasn't aware of that.
 

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you know the irony of Stax…...and for that matter Fame and Atlantic Records, which I believe was produced from Muscle Shoals Alabama was that quite a few of the musicians were white and a lot of the songs were written by whites and the ownership was white and for the most part I preferred that sound rather than Motown who had a black founder, predominately black musicians and black writers
I love Motown (at least the 60's into the early 70's), as much as Stax, but there is a huge difference in their fundamental styles.

Barry Gordy Jr., the President of Motown, was always targetting the white crossover market, and had dreams of Vegas style shows. First time I saw the Supremes was live at the Deauville Hotel in Miami Beach in, I believe, 1964. This was shortly after they started having hits with songs like "Baby Love", "Come See About Me", etc. Barry had them incorporate "white" songs into their act to broaden their appeal to white audiences. He did the same with most of his other artists through the years.

Stax, on the other hand, was targeting southern blacks, with much less complex production and orchestration, and often a bit of a rural or "country soul" feel. Often the lyrics would tell stories, much the same as country songs. "Private Number" is a great example of that. The fact that their sound and immense talents involved appealed to white audiences as well was merely a bonus, and they weren't playing Vegas or Miami Beach.

My 170 gig iPod has just about everything released that mattered to me on both labels, and I treasure it all.
 
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well said Exmontrealer….I guess that's why Motown was known as Hitsville and Stax was known as Soulville…..growing up as a teen and into my 20,s I was a sponge soaking in all the Stax and Fame stuff....and to be frank Motown was an after thought, sure some of the songs were really great, but when I went to record stores I never sought out their stuff ...at the time I had zero inclination to buy something like You Cant Hurry Love.lol...I,d be more inclined to get stuff like Roy Orbison, or DelShannon,,,who to me were way more soulful...even back then I was a "music fascist" lol.....Motown simply wasn't "black enough"...now go figure that out ..lol...
 
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I could listen to "golden era" Stax all day ogibowt.

A few years ago I visited the Stax Museum of American Soul Music in Memphis with my family, which is in the same location as the original Stax studio, but in a modern small building. Fascinating visit, with exhibits including many instruments used by the original house musicians. Of course bought T-shirts and hoodies for all.

Have to admit Graceland was fun too, as well as Beale Street.
I gotta get there one day.
 

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KD..not sure if you found this one by William Bell...if you have, enjoy the 2nd helping
Yep heard that one a few times. I'll enjoy 2nd 3rd and 4th helpings.
 

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Kashif Saleem bka Kashif started as a keyboardist for the funk group B.T. Express. He left the group in 1978 and became a keyboardist for r&b singer Stephanie Mills. In 1981 he scored his first breakthrough as a writer and producer of the Evelyn 'Champagne' King #1 r&b hit song 'I'm In Love'

 

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In 1982 Kashif produced records for Howard Johnson and Melba Moore. And in 1983 he released his self titled debut album. One of my fav albums of 80's r&b this was my fav track from it
 

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Also in 1983 he wrote and produced this gem for his musical idol, jazz/r&b musician George Benson. It reached #3 on the R&B charts

 
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In 1984 Kashif released his sophomore album Send Me Your Love and garnered his first Grammy nomination for Edgartown Groove, a duet with Al Jarreau. But this funky joint was my clear favorite from the album
 
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Then in 1985 came the ultimate breakthrough for Kashif. He produced the #1 hit song 'You Give Good Love' for Whitney Houston's debut album. He also wrote, produced and provided vocals on likely my ATF Kashif production 'Thinking About You'.

 
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In the latter portion of the 80's Kashif turned from the upbeat synth laced funky productions to the more mellow Quiet Storm tip. In 1987 he scored a hit duet with Meli'ssa Morgan called Love Changes

 
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