4th vaccination
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I'm looking at the current numbers. Which proves you're wrong and have no idea what you're taking about. I think you skipped a few too many math classes growing up. Are you able to read graphs?
Now look at the Reduction Associated with at least 2 Vaccine Doses. What more proof do you need?
I'm looking at the current numbers. Which proves you're wrong and have no idea what you're taking about. I think you skipped a few too many math classes growing up. Are you able to read graphs?
Now look at the Reduction Associated with at least 2 Vaccine Doses. What more proof do you need?
Haha you just copy and paste a graph, where did you get this information from,
Just look at Ontario hospitalization numbers
Dataset - Ontario Data Catalogue
So you didn't bother to read the graph. You really are a piece of work.
It's all right here. https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/ontario-dashboard/
It should also be noted from the link you posted:
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations
In the ICU: Admitted for COVID 82%
In the ICU: Admitted for other reasons 18%
I guess you didn't read that either.
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As was said above, the raw numbers mean little until you know what the denominator is. The graphs he showed are rates per 1M inhabitants.Haha you just copy and paste a graph, where did you get this information from,
Just look at Ontario hospitalization numbers
Dataset - Ontario Data Catalogue
covid-19.ontario.ca
we know vaccines don’t reduce the risk of serious illness to zero, so as the % vaccinated increases, so will the number of vaccinated in hospital. We are near 90% fully vaccinated.
I already see it https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations this site from the government Ontario
The fully vaccinated are leading the hospitalization numbers and ICU.
The vaccine is pretty useless, you need to take booster shot every 3 months, some people already have 4th dose in less than year , stop listening the bum politicians and stupid media and so called health officials trying to scared the public.
When your 4th, 5th, 6th dose and so on lol
Except the vaccines aren't useless. They're keeping the majority of the people who get COVID out of the hospital and ICU. The reason you don't understand this is because you can't comprehend simple math. I suggest taking an online math course. It may help you understand the numbers. Oh who am I kidding, you'll never understand it.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...-covid-19-patients-are-unvaccinated-1.5738198
That from one hospital lol go take your non stop booster shots and smile like clown
like TrudeauRead what we are saying. The vast majority of the population is vaccinated. So it stands to reason that even with a low (much lower) risk
Of being hospitalized, there will be numbers of vaccinated that are in hospital. If you want to look at whether vaccines work or not, you need to compare the proportion of vaccinated people that get hospitalized with covid vs the proportion of unvaccinated that get hospitalized. That information was in the bar graphs that you dismissed above.
By your logic, nobody should wear seatbelts because most people admitted to a trauma unit after a car crash were wearing seatbelts.
Again, unvaxxed make up only 9% of the 12+ population yet they are essentially half of all ICU cases. That means they are ending up in the ICU at almost 10 times the rate of the vaccinated.
Haha you just copy and paste a graph, where did you get this information from,
Just look at Ontario hospitalization numbers
Dataset - Ontario Data Catalogue
Currently the fully vaccinated are more in the ICU
If the vaccine did work, they shouldn't be none in the ICU
You guys still sleeping, listening to the bs government and stupid media,
When your 4th dose in March or April lol
Basically you taking up to 4 doses per year.
At this point it’s obvious that you are either just being willfully ignorant, or just a troll. Pointless to discuss further in either case
I am just telling the truth ,if the vaccines really work, they wouldn't be no cases in the ICU
JAN 13th
ICU
Unvaccinated cases 165
Partially vaccinated cases 15
Fully vaccinated cases 181
Hospitalizations
Unvaccinated cases 698
Partially vaccinated cases 179
Fully vaccinated cases 1894
Hospitalizations | COVID-19 (coronavirus) in Ontario
I think you are just trolling.
You know that no vaccine is 100% effective. So there will be some breakthrough cases. As thr vaccinated population increasingly outnumbers the unvaccinated the absolute number admitted who are vaccinated will eventually outnumber those who aren’t. The vaccines however, markedly reduce the RISK of getting sick enough to be hospitalized. That is the data that was shown in the clinical trials, and supported by the real world experience.
Please answer my question I asked above. Based on your logic, do you conclude that seatbelts are pointless because most people admitted after a car accident were actually wearing them?
The vaccines to date caused a significant reduction in the morbidity and mortality from Covid-19. Early in the pandemic, seniors in nursing homes were perishing at an unprecedented rate from Covid-19, but after a single shot, the ICU admissions and deaths drop off at an undeniable rate.
However the Omicron variant has sufficiently mutated from the original Wuhan Covid-19 to make the current vaccines less effective than before, notice I didn’t say ineffective as in no ICU admissions. The vaccines do not seem stable in the human body for more than a few month in terms of their ability to generate sufficient protection.
Still, new vaccines, more stable vaccines are required in this pandemic and as I said in another thread, increased more frequent jabs with the current vaccine might become increasingly futile and ” Hail Mary” like. The government has nothing better to advocate at this point than more of the same for now. Traditional test trial durations have been cut down dramatically with little opposition so that a “new and improved “ mRNA vaccine with many eager waiting recipients should be upon us very soon.
By the way, no offensive intended, are you suffering from “Long Covid“ resulting in ”brain fog” or were you always like this in your rationales ?
Jesus fuck, you need to polish your math skills man, seriously...You got the first part of the equation right but you left out the second part which is HOW MANY PERCENT OF ONTARIANS ARE FULLY VACINATED AND HOW MANY ARE NOT, THAT WILL BE YOUR ANSWER.
The EMA assertion that it might not be beneficial / harmful was a statement made by one guy. I don’t think any evidence was provided. They do say that in the absence of data about safely/ efficacy that we should not give them until we have that data- I agree.
The WHOs position on boosters (esp multiple) is that it is taking vaccine supply and vaccination efforts away from developing countries where there
Is minimal vaccination, and diverting them to boosters richer in countries where the impact will be much lower.
I mentioned this in another thread. We are in a huge experiment on mankind with never before seen vaccination technology used on a rapidly mutating, globe trotting, airborne pandemic causing virus.
We are seeing much more morbidity than mortality with one third of those recovering from Covid-19 experiencing clinically detectable permanent neurological and psychological damage such as loss of taste, brain fog, partial or complete impotence, lung scarring, vertigo, substance abuse issues, cardiomyopathies and severe body odour to name a few.
