407 ETR = Robbery

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danmand

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A month ago, I took the wrong turn on the 403, and ended up driving
6.1 km on the ETR. Today I got a bill from the farking robbers,
as follows:

Toll charges: $1.11
Video charges: $3.60
Account Fee: $2.55
Total $7.26

If that is not robbery, what is?
 
You looked at your paycheck lately? The difference between what you made, and what you get to keep... THAT is ROBBERY.

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I hate to say this, but you made a MISTAKE (wrong turn). You pay for your mistake and that is called responsibility, not robbery.
 
how to prevent being caught

i heard about this guy...had one of those old licence plates...the spring loaded ones that use to cover the old gas tanks. He installed it easily...no real retrofitting to do...it just pops right on.

Then he drilled a small hole and slid a rod out and connected it to the back of the plate. He extended the rod up beside the drivers seat ( HAd an SUV - but could be done in a car)

Everytime he entered the 407 - the rod 'myseriously' moved backwards...lowering the plate

VOILA = no bills
 
The 407 should have never been sold in the first place. It was the property of the people of Ontario, not the politicians who sold it just to balance their books. Now some private corperation in Spain can screw us over big time whenever we drive the 407. Public properties like that should have to be put to a referendum for the people to decide if we want to sell it.
 
GOLEAFSGO67 said:
i heard about this guy...had one of those old licence plates...the spring loaded ones that use to cover the old gas tanks. He installed it easily...no real retrofitting to do...it just pops right on.

Then he drilled a small hole and slid a rod out and connected it to the back of the plate. He extended the rod up beside the drivers seat ( HAd an SUV - but could be done in a car)

Everytime he entered the 407 - the rod 'myseriously' moved backwards...lowering the plate

VOILA = no bills
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I'd say if you're still driving a car with a flip down licence plate then you have bigger problems than paying the 407 bill.

Politics aside (yes the Ontario government should have never sold it) the 407 is not robbery... It's not like they don't warn you about 100 times before you go on it that you are going to pay something to use it.

Now trying to circumvent the system so you don't have to pay... well that is in fact robbery, or more precisely.. STEALING. If you don't want to pay for it then don't go on the damn thing.
 
I don't see what the big deal is. I never 'accidentally' got on a toll highway, especially not the 407. I think if you're so poor at operating a motor vehicle that you have no control over where you drive, then maybe driving isn't for you.
 
They're so sneaky that they even managed to put the word TOLL in the name of the road and still manage to con people into thinking that the road is free..

I'm not here to debate their rates or their business practices. I just don't agree with all the whiners out there that complain about having to pay for the use of the road. If you are from S Ontario and have no clue about what you are getting into before you drive onto the 407 then I just have to ask you "what rock have you been hiding under for the last 12 years?"

What irks me is the "I don't want to pay for this, so I should'nt have to" mentality that pervaides our society. Nobody condones the act of stealing from a retail establishment, however when it comes to music, movies, toll roads, satellite TV (need I go on?) it's a different story. Heck some guy who invents a flip down licence plate contraption is thought of as a clever, when in fact all he's just a cheap bastard with to much time on his hands.
 
Disagree. ETR has a oligopoly and they drill us through the nose. The prices they charge are not fair and you either spend 3 hours a day in commute or pay way to much to drive on a highway that we built with our money. Fair is fair and the ETR is not fair.
 
261252 said:
Disagree. ETR has a oligopoly and they drill us through the nose. The prices they charge are not fair and you either spend 3 hours a day in commute or pay way to much to drive on a highway that we built with our money. Fair is fair and the ETR is not fair.
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How do you determine what is a fair price for driving on a toll road?
Should it be $0.01 / km or $1.00 / km?
Or just what you feel would be reasonable based upon how much you make?
That will obviously vary depending upon the driver

The road was sold to private companies in order to cover the cost of building it
If it had not been sold all Ontario taxpayers would be paying for with higher taxes. Now that burden is being paid for by those that use it.
Either way you pay if you use it

The companies that bought it require a return on the capital they invested.
If they were not allowed to charge enough to make a profit , they would not have bought it.
That how things work
 
Do you know what is even bigger robbery? Our tax $$$ pay for this highway then our province goes and sells it to a private company. Then if you owe money to the 407 when you renew your licence you cannot renew your licence until you pay up.




danmand said:
A month ago, I took the wrong turn on the 403, and ended up driving
6.1 km on the ETR. Today I got a bill from the farking robbers,
as follows:

Toll charges: $1.11
Video charges: $3.60
Account Fee: $2.55
Total $7.26

If that is not robbery, what is?
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When the 407 first opened several customers got screwed including my. They were double charging people. I payed all my bills then when i went to renew my licence the licence office said i owed XX # of $$. I had nothing to prove that i had payed the bills because i threw the receips out so i payed again.
 
I disagree with JohnLarue


Yes, indeed, they must make a businessmans' profit. This profit is regulated by the free market. The 407 is not a free market, they have a monopoly on the alternative to the 401. A lot of people have to use it to get to work and back without spending 3 hours on the 401. 407 is charging what the market will bear( is that how i spell "bear" is this case) which is more than they would charge if they did not have a monoploy.

Our government sold them this right without any restrictions on their profit and the 407 corp has taken full advantage of our politicians blunder by making far more than a reasonable profit.

I have a high school diploma (grade 10) SO I SHOULD KNOW ! OK?
 
I HATE the 407 ETR corporation but LOVE the farking highway.

In fact, I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm addicted to it's smooth surfaces, high average cruising speeds and drivers who actually leave the left lane open for passing.

Too bad it's so expensive to use (and becoming more so all the time...).
 
I don't mind paying the mileage fee for using the 407 ETR. I hate the other
charges. Which other companies charges you for sending you an invoice??

Toll charges: $1.11
Video charges: $3.60
Account Fee: $2.55
Total $7.26
 
danmand said:
I don't mind paying the mileage fee for using the 407 ETR. I hate the other
charges. Which other companies charges you for sending you an invoice??

Toll charges: $1.11
Video charges: $3.60
Account Fee: $2.55
Total $7.26
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If you had a Transponder you'd only pay the $1.11. Transponder costs $2/month to rent.

I use it everyday and it keeps me sane...small price to pay.
 
the 407 does compete with the free market it's called 401 I will NEVER go on the 407. Thanks again to Mike Harris where he sold it for a song and dance to balance his budget.
 
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