30 years of SP experiences, a few observations, correct me if I am wrong

[fanofthehobby]

30 years this week I had my first SP experience in Times Square, long story, weird night , anyway I have a few opinions that I would like to post and see if anyone agrees with or maybe its just me...

I hobby mostly in TO and NFs and I feel as if there is a pecking order or a hierarchy with regard to SPs.

At the top of the pecking order according to the SPs seem to be the dancers in SCs. In the Falls they think they are gods gift to men and if they deem you special enough to service in some way its gonna cost you big time for 5-10 minutes of their attention. Why, I don't know, they seem to be the least educated, most medicated class of SPs.

Then there are the MPAs which think they are superior to the escorts because they don't {for the most part} do FS yet want escort fees for a NR, BS or less, especially in the falls.Again why I don't know, just my opinion.Most of the day they smoke and watch TV, you think they would be happy making $100 or so for 30 minutes instead of flipping burgers at Harveys.

Then there are the escorts who truly work the hardest, they have to dress nice, make a first impression and be dropped off to a perfect strangers room and expected to do whatever is on the gents mind. All this for about half the agency fee of $160-200. Yet they are very attractive, on par with many dancers and most MPAS, but aren't Prima Donnas or complain and whine about money[yes I have seen exceptions but for the most part they do their thing and move on}

Then there are street girls which are sort of a sad byproduct of drugs and a poor economy IMO that I no longer dabble in.

My point is does anyone else think that the Dancers feel they are "better" than MPAs who think they are better than escorts etc and if so why do they think they're better?

 

[stinkynuts]

I don't know what the dancers think. But I personally have much more respect for an escort than a dancer or an mp. I'm grateful that they're willing to go all the way, instead of just take off their clothes and expect to get tipped. I can see the prettiest naked women on the internet for free.

As for the street walkers, they're a bunch of con artists for the most part, or are drug addicts.

I think most men here on terb are grateful for the services escorts are willing to provide and respect them highly.

 

[Smash]

Well to me I put all three (Sp, Mpa, Dancer) in the same category. The category is I’ll fool around wit ya but I won't be in a relationship with you or bring you home to mom to meet.

 

[baci2004]

30 years this week I had my first SP experience in Times Square, long story, weird night , anyway I have a few opinions that I would like to post and see if anyone agrees with or maybe its just me...

I hobby mostly in TO and NFs and I feel as if there is a pecking order or a hierarchy with regard to SPs.

At the top of the pecking order according to the SPs seem to be the dancers in SCs. In the Falls they think they are gods gift to men and if they deem you special enough to service in some way its gonna cost you big time for 5-10 minutes of their attention. Why, I don't know, they seem to be the least educated, most medicated class of SPs.

Then there are the MPAs which think they are superior to the escorts because they don't {for the most part} do FS yet want escort fees for a NR, BS or less, especially in the falls.Again why I don't know, just my opinion.Most of the day they smoke and watch TV, you think they would be happy making $100 or so for 30 minutes instead of flipping burgers at Harveys.

Then there are the escorts who truly work the hardest, they have to dress nice, make a first impression and be dropped off to a perfect strangers room and expected to do whatever is on the gents mind. All this for about half the agency fee of $160-200. Yet they are very attractive, on par with many dancers and most MPAS, but aren't Prima Donnas or complain and whine about money[yes I have seen exceptions but for the most part they do their thing and move on}

Then there are street girls which are sort of a sad byproduct of drugs and a poor economy IMO that I no longer dabble in.

My point is does anyone else think that the Dancers feel they are "better" than MPAs who think they are better than escorts etc and if so why do they think they're better?

There are many exceptions to what you have said but for the most part from my experience....I agree.

 

[Gentle Ben]

Over the years I have met many nice dancers, enjoyed their time, conversation etc. One dancer in particular sticks in my mind, Lina or Lena from Private Eyes 55 from 5 yrs ago.
I have met many more that did'nt do anything for me.
Recent years I have shied away from dancers , and spent more time with SP's,I feel they are more interested in showing you a good time, and trying harder to please you. More bang for the buck I suppose.
As always, there are exeptions to this rule, but it seems to work of rme

 

[Maximus69]

It's our Fault

I believe that it is not the dancers, MPA's or Sp's fault. It is our own. Dancers feel the way they do because us guys are willing to pay them whatever they want. I'm sure if the dancers were not getting any business, they would definetely lower their prices. The "Supply and Demand" rule affects all products and "SERVICES".

So if men where to lets say boycott dances at every stripclub in every area, then the girls would be forced to lower their prices to get some business. Sadly, that will never happen as there are enough Joe Blow's that will pay these steep prices because they fall for the girls' one liners at the clubs.

Bottom line, they will charge whatever they want to as long as we pay it!

My 2 cents

Max

 

[Truncador]

There's also a distinction to be made among escorts. The true sexual professionals are much more likely to operate as independents as opposed to working for agencies.

 

[spatial_k]

The pecking order is cyclical. For every dancer who looks down on another SP for doing "more" there is an SP who looks down on the dancer for being the bottom-feeding scammer. Plus, dancers and MPA's have to put up with guys who don't know the difference between the three.

 

[shack]

I know it's a generalization but, in my opinion, dancers tend to be the most attractive and SP's the least. In a SC with so many girls floating around in one place, if they're not good looking they're not going to be getting much business. When we pick SP's all we see are pictures which are easily manipulated to make the girls look their best and hide their less attractive assets. You're much more likely to get dances from an outstanding looking girl as opposed to getting laid by an outstanding looking SP.

I feel the fact the dancers are generally hotter looking is at least partly responsible for the difference in attitude mentioned in this thread. And doesn't it seem that the more attractive SP's tend to be the ones who are more restrictive in their services because they figure they can get by on their looks. Again, this coincides with better looking equates to haughtier attitude.

 

[angelgirl]

30 years this week I had my first SP experience in Times Square, long story, weird night , anyway I have a few opinions that I would like to post and see if anyone agrees with or maybe its just me...

I hobby mostly in TO and NFs and I feel as if there is a pecking order or a hierarchy with regard to SPs.

At the top of the pecking order according to the SPs seem to be the dancers in SCs. In the Falls they think they are gods gift to men and if they deem you special enough to service in some way its gonna cost you big time for 5-10 minutes of their attention. Why, I don't know, they seem to be the least educated, most medicated class of SPs.

Well, there are many dancers that think that they are superior to sps; however, I would think the sp is at more advantage than the dancer IMHO
Independent sps can work independently and they don't have to be caught up in a lifestyle that doesn't particularly suit them..ex: having to deal with other catty girls,and lots of other things that I don't care to address. I know a lot of dancers and they do put up with a lot. Most of them are on their feet for 8 hrs and just clear 100. Also, us sps have the advantage to be very picky about who we see...avoiding the rift-rafts.
Many dancers (not all ) may think that they are better advantaged because they don't have to offer fs....but let's remember...........
They don't make serious cash off an "air dance" so, a good marjority of them are willing to vary their mileage.
Once again this is just MOHO

Cheers

 

[Berlin]

My point is does anyone else think that the Dancers feel they are "better" than MPAs who think they are better than escorts etc and if so why do they think they're better?

Interesting post.

So far , nothing from my encounters hinted that dancers/mpa's/sp's have " better than the other " attitude. I have never discussed the above with any of them during all these time and don't plan to initiate such discussion with them in future, during my pleasure hours.

 

[youngent]

I believe that it is not the dancers, MPA's or Sp's fault. It is our own. Dancers feel the way they do because us guys are willing to pay them whatever they want. I'm sure if the dancers were not getting any business, they would definetely lower their prices. The "Supply and Demand" rule affects all products and "SERVICES".

So if men where to lets say boycott dances at every stripclub in every area, then the girls would be forced to lower their prices to get some business. Sadly, that will never happen as there are enough Joe Blow's that will pay these steep prices because they fall for the girls' one liners at the clubs.

Bottom line, they will charge whatever they want to as long as we pay it!

My 2 cents

Max

If it's more than $20 a dance then yeah, thats way too much. But I would say that quality rather than the price is the problem in SCs. The girls just aren't that energetic or enthusiastic and expect to get their $$ by a simple 'Vanna dance?' approach.
Some don't take great care of their body. They are selling their looks, and yet have little regards for them. Exercise seems a foreign concept to some.
And the worst neglect is the stage scene. Put on a fine performance and your chances for getting dances are increased significantly. I remember some very fince sexy (real) dancing on stage from the latin women at HOL not too long ago (sadly they (ladies) seem to be gone now). And you bet, I definitely contributed my share of hard earned $$ to them in the VIP. They were just amazing.
In contrast, I visited another SC sometime later and all I saw was some dancer bending over, showing off her flabby butt for the entire song. Did I get any dances ? Nope. Got bored and left the SC.
Spending $20 isn't really an issue. As long as you're getting back in entertainment for what you paid for.

 

[WhaWhaWha]

Some of this is true, other bits -- true of individuals. For example in SCs I have talked to Dancers who berate other dancers for going to far by comparing them to prostitutes. Can we still use that word here? And escorts who berate other escorts by comparing them to street girls. One thing is for sure -- Phone sex girls aren't always as pretty as they claim.

 

[shack]

Shack, I don't know which SPs you are seeing but they are not the ones I am seeing. Some of these Escorts are drop dead gorgeous ..... Some of my experiences at the SCs were scams and some of the dancers were less than pretty.

As I said, it is a generalization. Indeed some SP's are gorgeous and some dancers uggers. IMO though, there are a higher percentage of very good looking dancers than there are SP's. (It saddens me to say I do not have any data based on sound scientific research to back up my conjecture. I'm still waiting for government funding.)

 

[Gord's Bro]

In fact, just came back from the best BJ in my life thanks to a contact on this Board. No Strip Joints for me.

Who's to say you can't get a BJ from a strip joint contact? Take Fantasia for example . . .

. . . oh, yeah that was then . . . this is now.

BTW You're right about contacts on this board. I'd luv to tell you how much I've lusted (and enjoyed!!!) one legendary lady but I'm off to Timmies . . .

G's B.

 

[luv4lust]

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