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30+ arrests made in Quebec drug war between Blood Family Mafia, Hells Angels

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The cops in Quebec make their own rules. I was staying in a flop house hotel ( full of strippers and musicians in the 70's ) when a bunch of thugs broke into our room in the middle of the night waving sawed off shotguns in our faces and yelling in french. It was plain clothes provincial cops who thought we might be bank robbers or something. Apparently they eventually caught the gang and offed them in a shoot out.
 
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The Quebec Hells Angels were terrorized with kidnappings and mutilations by the Blood Family Mafia to send them a message that they would not pay a tribute to the HA. The HA could not let it go and had to retaliate against the BFM. The news went through the Ranks of the HA that the war was on and there would be kidnapping, mutilations and maybe killings against the BFM. The LE was afraid of a blood bath between the two gangs and had to take some of the members of the BFM into custody so that they would not get killed.
The members of the BFM were not taken in for the yet unproven kidnappings and mutilations, they were taken in on previous suspected crimes as an excuse to prevent wholesale mayhem. Many of the BFM will be quickly released and charges dropped.

The LE were tipped off by an inside snitch that crapped in his pants at the thought of going into a gang war. The LE did not want another war like the Rock Machine / Hells Angels war of 1994 - 2002


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The war left 162 people dead, including civilians.[11] There were also 84 bombings, and 130 cases of arson.[14]

 

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The Quebec Hells Angels were terrorized with kidnappings and mutilations by the Blood Family Mafia to send them a message that they would not pay a tribute to the HA. The HA could not let it go and had to retaliate against the BFM. The news went through the Ranks of the HA that the war was on and there would be kidnapping, mutilations and maybe killings against the BFM. The LE was afraid of a blood bath between the two gangs and had to take some of the members of the BFM into custody so that they would not get killed.
The members of the BFM were not taken in for the yet unproven kidnappings and mutilations, they were taken in on previous suspected crimes as an excuse to prevent wholesale mayhem. Many of the BFM will be quickly released and charges dropped.

The LE were tipped off by an inside snitch that crapped in his pants at the thought of going into a gang war. The LE did not want another war like the Rock Machine / Hells Angels war of 1994 - 2002


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The war left 162 people dead, including civilians.[11] There were also 84 bombings, and 130 cases of arson.[14]


This makes more sense than HA "ratting".

People would be astounded at the intelligence activities and knowledge of the LE intelligence units focused on organized crime.
 
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The world's most powerful criminal organization is being terrorized by a street gang? That sir qualifies as fake news. In other news Russia is being terrorized by a street gang called Ukraine :ROFLMAO:
lol.
Not sure how to articulate this.
street gangs while similar are different beast from bike gangs. Hopefully that makes some some sense. Neither are good or what ever, just different cats. One thing is for sure, you don’t want to be on the wrong end of one, or between them

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lol.
Not sure how to articulate this.
street gangs while similar are different beast from bike gangs. Hopefully that makes some some sense. Neither are good or what ever, just different cats. One thing is for sure, you don’t want to be on the wrong end of one, or between them

meet one of torontos

Ms 13 has evolved far beyond street gang status to the status of security threat group so it's unfair to use them as an example. Blood mafia family exist no where other than the small pocket they occupy in quebec. Bmf vs HA is like a single pawn versus the entire other side of the chessboard. That they think they can be the victors in this conflict is laughable. HA vs Ms13 is a far more fair fight.
 
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The Quebec Hells Angels were terrorized with kidnappings and mutilations by the Blood Family Mafia to send them a message that they would not pay a tribute to the HA. The HA could not let it go and had to retaliate against the BFM. The news went through the Ranks of the HA that the war was on and there would be kidnapping, mutilations and maybe killings against the BFM. The LE was afraid of a blood bath between the two gangs and had to take some of the members of the BFM into custody so that they would not get killed.
The members of the BFM were not taken in for the yet unproven kidnappings and mutilations, they were taken in on previous suspected crimes as an excuse to prevent wholesale mayhem. Many of the BFM will be quickly released and charges dropped.

The LE were tipped off by an inside snitch that crapped in his pants at the thought of going into a gang war. The LE did not want another war like the Rock Machine / Hells Angels war of 1994 - 2002


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The war left 162 people dead, including civilians.[11] There were also 84 bombings, and 130 cases of arson.[14]

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's just common sense and logic.
 
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Ms 13 has evolved far beyond street gang status to the status of security threat group so it's unfair to use them as an example. Blood mafia family exist no where other than the small pocket they occupy in quebec. Bmf vs HA is like a single pawn versus the entire other side of the chessboard. That they think they can be the victors in this conflict is laughable. HA vs Ms13 is a far more fair fight.
And yet oddly they are grouped in with street gangs by experts…….either way whether a red rose or white rose a rose is still a rose and, they are here.

Try googling some Somalian street gangs too.
 
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Sigh. These days everybody is an expert. Ms 13 is the epitome of a security threat group and have been far more significant than a street gang for more than a decade.
im not an expert.
it’s worth noting you said street gangs couldn’t give HA a black eye. Until I brought up MS13. Either way, a rose by any other name is still a rose. And as I said “in the end just different cats”. Nor are they only cats beyond biker gangs..
 

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The Blood Family Mafia disrespected the Hells Angels by not paying their tribute of 10% of their drug money sales. Then they kidnapped two HA members and did torture and mutilation on them. The HA could not let this stand and was ready to go to war, if they did not every punk and slime bag would stop paying tribute and do as they pleased in HA territory. One of the kidnap victims of the HA killed a BFM kidnapper and then ran to the LE, less one finger and one toe. There was about to be a blood bath if the LE did not get news from inside the HA that they were gearing up for war.

The SQ ( Quebec Provincial Police ) sent a message to the HA and BFM that they have people inside or insiders that were willing to snitch. Both sides are being watched. The HA are too big to dismantle. the BFM are easier to exterminate, especially when their leader has ran away and is in hiding. He will never be able to walk free in North America again.


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One of the leaders in the BFM is Danny Villanueva, his brother was killed by Montreal police in 2008 in a incident where 4 street thugs swarmed a police officer. They were all displaying red bandanas which is the symbol of Red Allegiance. The Red Allegiance is a group that used homosexual ritual in their loyalty oaths. When the Red Allegiance torture and/or kill rivals they may use homosexuality as a form of humiliation while they record the incident and make it available to the public.



Dave Turmel current leader of the BFM gang is in exile in Portugal. Roobens Denis right-hand man of Turmel. was on the run with Turmel in Portugal was later arrested alone in a hotel in Lisbon on February 29.

 
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When the Red Allegiance torture and/or kill rivals they may use homosexuality as a form of humiliation while they record the incident and make it available to the public.
Thanks for sharing your deeper insight. Very interesting.

Is there any truth to the rumour that they make an example of the survivors of these homosexual tortures by forcing them to publicly post online comments in red Comic font? 😜

Or that posting in red Comic font is some sort of a loud and proud secret handshake among Red Alliance members? Or enforcers? 😜
 
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Good to hear that they're still at the top of the pyramid. Some of these other outfits have no honour in what they do and aren't grounded in the same way as Hells Angels.

I also just love what Hells Angels stand for. They were founded on ideas of anti-establishment, individual liberty, and brotherhood.
 
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The Mafia is at the top. The Hells Angels take their orders from the Mafia. These two groups are fat and giggly and they want to collect their cut for doing nothing. The scumola are getting too much attention from the LE.
 

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The Mafia is at the top. The Hells Angels take their orders from the Mafia. These two groups are fat and giggly and they want to collect their cut for doing nothing. The scumola are getting too much attention from the LE.
I would argue that the angels have more members and reach than any mafia organization. The angels are a global organization and are represented on every continent. Ironically this whole war is for absolute control of Quebec and then Canada as a whole and I don't see the angels losing this war.
 

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Whose daughter was shot in a parking lot a while back, was that related?
She was the daughter in-law of an already croaked mafia member. Possibly her husband may have been in the family business or maybe she was participating in some family activities like money laundering. Her killing may have been a warning from other factions of the mafia. There are Sicilian and Calabrian Mafia groups in Montreal.

 
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That was quick, war's over. Every significant member of BMF is dead or incarcerated and the leader is hiding in Europe actively being hunted for the $500 000 bounty on his head.
 

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Of course the war is over. The police arrested everyone BFM member they could find, but left HA alone.

Now we know what that 10% drug trafficking tax is for. 🤣
 

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according to what I could find which could be very inaccurate HA 6,000 strong globally

MS13 10,000 in the U.S., 30-50k globally.

I sometimes think wars etc draw public attention and heat, so most would avoid them.

MS13?
 
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