I've just read 1984 again. Last time I read it about 30 years ago and at that time it felt like a nice science fiction, but not something extraordinary. Well, not this time. The whole idea that you must think in a specific, "approved" way, not just behave in that way, and if you are thinking differently - your are doomed: this is what is going on now in our society. People not only get punished for saying something against "mainstream beliefs", they are punished for thinking against such beliefs and the "thoughts police" is looking for any slips that can indicate that someone's beliefs are different from the "approved" ones.
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This video isn't parody either. It's on full display on TERB and everywhere you go.
What he's saying is that revolutions eat their children and then the scoundrels move in. As predictable as a sunrise.
Ive noticed this in western culture. for some reason in other countries which are not first world countries seen much more normal. minus the Communist countries
Are you suggesting that 'liberal' thought is following Orwell's playbook? If you are, it's a pretty dumb argument as you can tell by reading or listening to the very vocal people who disagree, especially here on terb (such as the pepe poster here).
If you want a real discussion about how Orwell's book reflects modern reality, I'm willing (but from what I've seen, you mostly just want to argue).
Not following the playbook, but "liberals" definitely want to control how other people think. Liberals hate freedom and diversity of thoughts, they want everybody to be like them.
I get the impression from what I'm reading that most people don't understand Orwell's book. I suggest you read Animal Farm before 1984 and get the big picture.
If you don't understand 1984, don't feel bad - Otto didn't understand Nietzsche...I don't either.
If you don't understand 1984, don't feel bad - Otto didn't understand Nietzsche...I don't either.
Orwell wrote 1984 to bunk Hitler's Main Kampf. They are polar opposites, the latter is a lunatic screed, Orwell was very rational.
We can be thankful for one item, David Bowie's prediction has yet to happen.
We can be thankful for one item, David Bowie's prediction has yet to happen.
Only because Trump is by far the worst, most insane, incompetent, asshole of a President in history by far.Lol they call it the TDS or Trump Derangement Syndrome. People start getting triggered at the first mention of Trump. Fucking BOTs
Not quite, Trump doesn't have an Abu Ghraib. I agree with you, strictly economics, America cannot afford four more years of Trump. To begin with, he's allowing the scrapping of Obamacare to proceed.
The facts are everything about trump is fraudulent. Hes a horrible businessman. 4 bankruptcies. No man lost more money in the 1980s than trump. His origin story: his dad gave him $1m and he turned it into a billion $ company - is false. He got 400m from his dad - and screwed his siblings- and estimates that's what he has now. Thus had he just put his money into an interest bearing account he'd have more money. No bank in NYC would touch him because he does not pay his debts. He even sued a bank who loaned him money that he did not pay back. I lived in nyc in late 90s and he was small potatoes and a considered a clown in the real estate world. Trump airlines failed. Trump casino failed. Trump steaks, ties, vodka - failed/fraud. Trump uni - fraud. Trump foundation - fraud (imagine using other people's charitable donations to pay your legal bills). The only thing that kept him afloat was russian money (according to his son) and thats why only deutsche bank would deal with him (deutsche bank was/is laundering money for the russians and under indictment for that). Plus surrounding yourself with yes men is shown time and time again to be the absolute worst way to make decisions.
He believes Russia over his own Intel agencies. Hes profoundly ignorant about history and the us constitution. He snubs democracies and cozy up to dictators. He lies constantly (approaching 20,000 documented lies). He inherited a great economy from obama (yes, he did, just look at gdp numbers, the decline of unemployment, stock market, etc. It's just fox news said the 2.4% growth under Obama was pathetic, Trump said he'd do 4, 5, 6% growth! In fact, his GDP was the same as Obama, it's just fox news said 2.4% growth under Trump was "roaring"). The racists love him (aryan, kkk, etc). He has been destroying all checks on his power (firing IG's, ignoring legal subpoenas, and has cowed the repubs into silence. Read the mueller report. A clearly says Russia interfered, Trump welcomed it - although did not collude - and there were a dozen acts of obstruction of justice. And, most of his campaign is in gaol or convicted of crimes) and using his position to enrich himself. His cabinet corrupt (price, zinke, pruitt, etc), This is the third world strongman playbook (again, I've been all over the world, the pattern is unmistakable). Now he's botched the real crisis (covid/crash/protests - USA 3 times the deaths of any other country) and he refuses to take responsibility. Now even the generals have turned on him (check out Colin Powell today).
He has the best intel agencies in the world but he gets his info from fox news and spends the day insulting people on Twitter. He screwed his allies the Kurds. Cheats on wife w porn star as she's recovering from childbirth. Pays hush money. Doesnt go to church but claims piety. And so on.
Anyhow, just some facts. Facts do not make one deranged. Deranged is claiming some woman forging a biracial babies birth certificate in 1961 and somehow get it into a Hawaiian newspaper to commit fraud. Derangement is saying Obama is coming after your guns because the proof is he has not gone after your guns. Derangement is screaming about a 'tyrant' who is pushing children to eat healthier. Derangement is some kid in New Jersey sings a song about Obama in school and people screaming about "liberal reeducation camps".
He believes Russia over his own Intel agencies. Hes profoundly ignorant about history and the us constitution. He snubs democracies and cozy up to dictators. He lies constantly (approaching 20,000 documented lies). He inherited a great economy from obama (yes, he did, just look at gdp numbers, the decline of unemployment, stock market, etc. It's just fox news said the 2.4% growth under Obama was pathetic, Trump said he'd do 4, 5, 6% growth! In fact, his GDP was the same as Obama, it's just fox news said 2.4% growth under Trump was "roaring"). The racists love him (aryan, kkk, etc). He has been destroying all checks on his power (firing IG's, ignoring legal subpoenas, and has cowed the repubs into silence. Read the mueller report. A clearly says Russia interfered, Trump welcomed it - although did not collude - and there were a dozen acts of obstruction of justice. And, most of his campaign is in gaol or convicted of crimes) and using his position to enrich himself. His cabinet corrupt (price, zinke, pruitt, etc), This is the third world strongman playbook (again, I've been all over the world, the pattern is unmistakable). Now he's botched the real crisis (covid/crash/protests - USA 3 times the deaths of any other country) and he refuses to take responsibility. Now even the generals have turned on him (check out Colin Powell today).
He has the best intel agencies in the world but he gets his info from fox news and spends the day insulting people on Twitter. He screwed his allies the Kurds. Cheats on wife w porn star as she's recovering from childbirth. Pays hush money. Doesnt go to church but claims piety. And so on.
Anyhow, just some facts. Facts do not make one deranged. Deranged is claiming some woman forging a biracial babies birth certificate in 1961 and somehow get it into a Hawaiian newspaper to commit fraud. Derangement is saying Obama is coming after your guns because the proof is he has not gone after your guns. Derangement is screaming about a 'tyrant' who is pushing children to eat healthier. Derangement is some kid in New Jersey sings a song about Obama in school and people screaming about "liberal reeducation camps".
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A simply excellent post.
However, just one rather minor detail that I must bring up.
Perhaps we need not bother to read Animal Farm anymore today.
We are already living in it.
Oikn, oikn.
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