16 Year old teen arrested in killing of Raccoon

xmontrealer

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Funny how your reply trips over the point that I‘m making, lands face first on it, and yet you still don’t see it.
I'm on the side of carefully watching animal abusers and punishing or at least getting into therapy the habitual ones who are seen to escalate those activities.

But, more importantly, was your handle inspired by "Full Metal Jacket"?
 

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I would bet my left nut this isn't the first time he's done this....only the first time he got caught...sounds like to me...parents contributed to this behaviour... No discipline and let a child run free at home and gets what he wants all the time gets bored pretty fast... there has to be a right amount of discipline for bad behaviour and reward for good behaviour....love your child that he will be a good contribution to society and not a menace to...sad.
 
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I would bet my left nut this isn't the first time he's done this....only the first time he got caught...sounds like to me...parents contributed to this behaviour... No discipline and let a child run free at home and gets what he wants all the time gets bored pretty fast... there has to be a right amount of discipline for bad behaviour and reward for good behaviour....love your child that he will be a good contribution to society and not a menace to...sad.
This is why I said I feel their statement was lip-service. A kid doesn’t just start doing this. They had to have seen signs of troubled behaviour in other areas before this and if they were parenting properly, they would have had to get their child some counselling or treatment before this. Since they don’t mention that at all, I feel they must have either neglected the signs or just didn’t care.
 
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I have to say that I abhor sport hunting that doesn't result in a practical use for the kill. Of course I admit that I am a carnivore and knowingly and willingly eat beef, lamb, and chicken, etc., and wear leather shoes.

That is why I would never go sport hunting or fishing, as I would have no practical use for whatever I killed, and would derive no enjoyment from the "sporting" aspect.

Now, if the deer had a gun and could shoot back, that might be a different story. But I have no grudge against them, and wouldn't go looking for trouble.

On the other hand, if attacked by a bear, or another human with a lethal weapon, and assuming I was properly armed, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to shoot to kill to defend my life, without a second thought or regret...
 
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Like a glue trap does?

My point is people advocate more for vermin, then they do for fellow human beings...
Not even sure what you're talking about anymore.

The only vermin is the 16yo teen that some of you are advocating for.
 
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Maybe MOST don't. But history and research has shown that MANY DO.

Most people don't drink and drive, but many do. Does that mean it's not an issue?
Catching drunk drivers would be a better use of resources than catching raccoon killers.
 

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Okay, I will say it again. We have various Task Forces for a couple of things you mentioned and you went silent on those points, fair to assume you concede it's being handled. Now tell us what you want the police to do with their officers and the "rampant" drug use and homelessness that has taken over our city. I'm genuinely curious about the big moves you think they should be making in allocating their already strained resources.
No. It appears that I shall have to make my point more sharply in order to compensate for the innate dullness of others. The problems these task forces were created to address continue unabated, hence the resources dedicated to them are inadequate and should be bolstered by the reallocation of manpower and money from lower priority tasks.
 

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Your stupidity is on another level. It really is....

So because "most" animal abusers don't go on to be serial killers, we should just ignore warning signs despite the fact some do? Not to mention, it's a illegal, but in your mind, it's okay to commit crimes as long as your not a gang banger.

You're a piece of work and your handle suites you quite well....
Here are the tasks you need to perform:

1. Look at the state of Toronto and compare it to 1980 (assuming you were alive then).
2. Look up the meaning of triage.
3. Watch Full Metal Jacket and take a look at how Pvt Joker acts. (I’ll give you a courtesy head start on this one; you really only need to worry if someone decides they are Pvt Pyle.)
 

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Here are the tasks you need to perform:

1. Look at the state of Toronto and compare it to 1980 (assuming you were alive then).
2. Look up the meaning of triage.
3. Watch Full Metal Jacket and take a look at how Pvt Joker acts. (I’ll give you a courtesy head start on this one; you really only need to worry if someone decides they are Pvt Pyle.)
The "killer" in Pvt. Joker only came out when the Vietnamese sniper was begging to be put out of her misery. Not even in retaliation for the damage she caused to his platoon. And the killing was an internal fight against all of Joker's peace-loving instincts.

Pvt. Pyle was systematically tormented by Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, and finally by his platoon, to the point of insanity and need for revenge for that torment, at least against the Gunnery Sergeant. Before basic training Pyle was just a simple slow and slobbish guy, with no apparent latent violent tendencies.

So, "PvtJoker", you couldn't reply to my previous "detective first grade" connection between your handle and the movie? I'm a little disappointed...lol :geek:
 
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Catching drunk drivers would be a better use of resources than catching raccoon killers.
there's 2 different types of "racoon killers" one who does it because it's a pest....one who does it because it's fun....the latter, you need to keep an eye out as a neighbor....it's just a matter of time before pets started to disappear, then there's potential a few neighbors will too...that might include you.
 
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the Gunnery Sergeant. Before basic training Pyle was just a simple slow and slobbish guy, with no apparent latent violent tendencies.

So, "PvtJoker", you couldn't reply to my previous "detective first grade" connection between your handle and the movie? I'm a little
The "killer" in Pvt. Joker only came out when the Vietnamese sniper was begging to be put out of her misery. Not even in retaliation for the damage she caused to his platoon. And the killing was an internal fight against all of Joker's peace-loving instincts.

Pvt. Pyle was systematically tormented by Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, and finally by his platoon, to the point of insanity and need for revenge for that torment, at least against the Gunnery Sergeant. Before basic training Pyle was just a simple slow and slobbish guy, with no apparent latent violent tendencies.

So, "PvtJoker", you couldn't reply to my previous "detective first grade" connection between your handle and the movie? I'm a little disappointed...lol :geek:
The answer to your previous question was as obvious as your analysis of the movie, (except for your take on Pyle; he was broken to begin with, Hartman just brought out his inner nature). Stating the obvious is pedantic.
 

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The answer to your previous question was as obvious as your analysis of the movie, (except for your take on Pyle; he was broken to begin with, Hartman just brought out his inner nature). Stating the obvious is pedantic.
Ok. Not sure if Pyle was broken before he began basic training. There is no back story on him except for his obvious low IQ, and being introverted and fat.

And now I have to look up "pedantic"... 🤔
 

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No I shot them for food.
It was a rhetorical question. It means you are not a sociopath. This kid methodically TORTURED these animals. For pleasure. To watch them die, for no purpose.

I support hunters, they tend to be good environmentalists and land caretakers. Who in many cases share their kills and use the entire animal.

Not this kid.
 

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It was a rhetorical question. It means you are not a sociopath. This kid methodically TORTURED these animals. For pleasure. To watch them die, for no purpose.

I support hunters, they tend to be good environmentalists and land caretakers. Who in many cases share their kills and use the entire animal.

Not this kid.
God Dammit I want to be a sociopath.
 
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