I’m a relatively new member but have seen many posts about how leolist has fallen off, especially in Barrie, so I decided to write down a few key tips that have helped me, feel free to add your own tips, suggestions, critiques. Leolist, like many online platforms, can be hit or miss but the best thing I have found from my few years of experience is to have a set of rules/principles so that even when you’ve had a rough day/week and want to relax and come across a tempting ad, your other head doesn’t take over. I’ve become a lot better at avoiding bad ads or stopping inquiries once enough red flags pop up. Learning to trust my gut has been the biggest asset in this hobby. Here are 10 key tips that I’ve learned along the way.
- Verified pictures dont necessarily mean you’re communicating with the person in the pictures (but its better than nothing). Keep in mind that a few of my favourite SP’s didn’t have verified ads, however going forward most new SP’s I meet are verified.
- Communication through text is usually the case, and responsiveness is important (especially with incalls). If communication is extremely slow and inattentive in the beginning don’t be shocked when having to wait 15+ minutes to get the room number feeling awkward and annoyed. For outcalls never provide the unit/room number until they are nearby or have arrived (just like most SP’s do) and I usually have them call me when close (Does it sound like she’s in a car/walking/etc or does it sound like she’s still sitting in her room? do you hear male voices in the background? trust your gut)
- In the pictures are there signs of photoshop? Crooked or wavy lines on nearby doors, walls, tables, etc. Many SP’s photoshop their pictures to get rid of identifying tattoos or to slightly make themselves more curvaceous or slimmer which is usually not that big of a deal. However things like photoshopping the word “Leolist“, their name, and a phone number in obvious fonts on the white sheet of paper they hold up can be a red flag and sign that these images (even if verified) have been used with different names and different numbers in different regions, which is usually a big red flag for me. Handwritten on a piece of paper or typed on ipads/laptops is usually the norm.
- Check Leolist in other provinces or cities. Sometimes when the scammers post multiple times with the same profile in multiple cities on the same day you can them see listed under the ad you’re looking at. If they happen to be in 3+ cities all across the province within 24 hrs you are dealing with a scammer. However sometimes you have to look deeper, if my gut is suspicious I check different provinces and scroll through the first page of the Leolist ads in other provinces (usually scammers aren’t bothered enough to change the name, pictures, description, etc.) A lot of hobbyists think that losing a $50 deposit isn’t a big deal and don’t post about it out of shame, but when these scammers are able to get $50 from multiple people in multiple cities in multiple provinces it quickly ads up. If you have been the victim of a scam/bad experience don’t just let it slide, post about it and warn others so we can make the community a better safer place. (One of the main reasons I only recently became a member here is that after years of hobbying I hate to see how toxic hobbying has become, but we can warn eachother and help bring hobbying back to its former glory)
- Check for old phone numbers in the picture. Sometimes SP’s use older pictures in their ads with old phone numbers/names on the white cards/iPads they hold up in their ad. This can be a sign that they travel frequently (nothing wrong with that), or that they have bad reviews under different names or phone numbers on different forums.
- Check the forums, TERB, PERP, MERB, **********, etc. many of these scammers post in numbers all across the country and someone is likely to have left a review. This is also a good way to vet SP’s because many travel throughout the country and you can get a good sense of what to expect based on many reviews (however keep in mind that SP’s are human too and can occasionally have a bad day or not have good chemistry with a hobbyist that then writes a nightmare of a review so look at multiple reviews to get a better overall picture)
- I have never given a deposit for an incall, although I’ve been asked to several times, major red flag for me. The only way I could possibly think I would ever is if the SP is drop dead gorgeous extremely well reviewed and highly in demand and is taking prebookings, and I have money to literally burn, but even then that’s a massive stretch. Most reputable SP’s don’t require deposits for incalls and for outcalls they usually provide the option of either arranging for an Uber to pick them up/drop them off or sending a small deposit.
- If there aren’t any good SP’s in the area I usually prefer to wait till the next time I am heading to the GTA or other cities (I travel back and forth frequently enough) than waste my money on another disappointing experience in Barrie, but sometimes I get lucky and a reputable SP is visiting Barrie at the same time that I want to splurge and enjoy myself.
- Keep regulars. It can be hard to find good regular SP’s but when you find one treat her well. Simple things I’ve done include remembering her dogs/cats name, occasionally buying her favourite wine if time permits (within reason), remembering what she likes, following up on prior conversations (if you have a good memory), for outcalls choosing Uber Comfort or if you really want to impress and splurge Uber Black (if she isn’t too far), being polite and respectful in conversations/over text, etc. showing interest in their lives/hobby’s (many are in school, have businesses/investments, properties, artists, etc.) I have had regulars that have retired years ago and have regulars I still see in Barrie/GTA and let me tell you that some of my most amazing memorable sessions so far have been 1 or 2 hour sessions with regulars and a little bit of splurging goes a long way (Uber Black, Wine, etc) its really the thought that counts, try to stick out from the crowd a bit. I would rather wait a bit and save up for a 1 or 2 hour session with a good regular than see 4 mediocre at best providers that I never want to see again. I haven’t found a good local regular in Barrie yet, often see the same few travelling SP’s when they visit, but I have a few in the GTA. I love that I don’t have to ask them about menus or restrictions, with a few we don’t even talk have to talk about donations (although I carry extra just in case donations went up). With a few of my regulars the chemistry grew and with one in particular although no GFE was on the menu during an incall she literally grabbed me at the door and began to passionately DFK me, I was shocked but extremely turned on and it ended up being on of the best sessions I’ve had so far.
- Take a break every now and then, hobbying can be beneficial in moderation, especially when you find a muse (Greek mythology), but it’s important to remember to play the game and not let the game play you.
Please feel free to add your own tips, suggestions, critiques, thoughts, etc.
Huncho
- Verified pictures dont necessarily mean you’re communicating with the person in the pictures (but its better than nothing). Keep in mind that a few of my favourite SP’s didn’t have verified ads, however going forward most new SP’s I meet are verified.
- Communication through text is usually the case, and responsiveness is important (especially with incalls). If communication is extremely slow and inattentive in the beginning don’t be shocked when having to wait 15+ minutes to get the room number feeling awkward and annoyed. For outcalls never provide the unit/room number until they are nearby or have arrived (just like most SP’s do) and I usually have them call me when close (Does it sound like she’s in a car/walking/etc or does it sound like she’s still sitting in her room? do you hear male voices in the background? trust your gut)
- In the pictures are there signs of photoshop? Crooked or wavy lines on nearby doors, walls, tables, etc. Many SP’s photoshop their pictures to get rid of identifying tattoos or to slightly make themselves more curvaceous or slimmer which is usually not that big of a deal. However things like photoshopping the word “Leolist“, their name, and a phone number in obvious fonts on the white sheet of paper they hold up can be a red flag and sign that these images (even if verified) have been used with different names and different numbers in different regions, which is usually a big red flag for me. Handwritten on a piece of paper or typed on ipads/laptops is usually the norm.
- Check Leolist in other provinces or cities. Sometimes when the scammers post multiple times with the same profile in multiple cities on the same day you can them see listed under the ad you’re looking at. If they happen to be in 3+ cities all across the province within 24 hrs you are dealing with a scammer. However sometimes you have to look deeper, if my gut is suspicious I check different provinces and scroll through the first page of the Leolist ads in other provinces (usually scammers aren’t bothered enough to change the name, pictures, description, etc.) A lot of hobbyists think that losing a $50 deposit isn’t a big deal and don’t post about it out of shame, but when these scammers are able to get $50 from multiple people in multiple cities in multiple provinces it quickly ads up. If you have been the victim of a scam/bad experience don’t just let it slide, post about it and warn others so we can make the community a better safer place. (One of the main reasons I only recently became a member here is that after years of hobbying I hate to see how toxic hobbying has become, but we can warn eachother and help bring hobbying back to its former glory)
- Check for old phone numbers in the picture. Sometimes SP’s use older pictures in their ads with old phone numbers/names on the white cards/iPads they hold up in their ad. This can be a sign that they travel frequently (nothing wrong with that), or that they have bad reviews under different names or phone numbers on different forums.
- Check the forums, TERB, PERP, MERB, **********, etc. many of these scammers post in numbers all across the country and someone is likely to have left a review. This is also a good way to vet SP’s because many travel throughout the country and you can get a good sense of what to expect based on many reviews (however keep in mind that SP’s are human too and can occasionally have a bad day or not have good chemistry with a hobbyist that then writes a nightmare of a review so look at multiple reviews to get a better overall picture)
- I have never given a deposit for an incall, although I’ve been asked to several times, major red flag for me. The only way I could possibly think I would ever is if the SP is drop dead gorgeous extremely well reviewed and highly in demand and is taking prebookings, and I have money to literally burn, but even then that’s a massive stretch. Most reputable SP’s don’t require deposits for incalls and for outcalls they usually provide the option of either arranging for an Uber to pick them up/drop them off or sending a small deposit.
- If there aren’t any good SP’s in the area I usually prefer to wait till the next time I am heading to the GTA or other cities (I travel back and forth frequently enough) than waste my money on another disappointing experience in Barrie, but sometimes I get lucky and a reputable SP is visiting Barrie at the same time that I want to splurge and enjoy myself.
- Keep regulars. It can be hard to find good regular SP’s but when you find one treat her well. Simple things I’ve done include remembering her dogs/cats name, occasionally buying her favourite wine if time permits (within reason), remembering what she likes, following up on prior conversations (if you have a good memory), for outcalls choosing Uber Comfort or if you really want to impress and splurge Uber Black (if she isn’t too far), being polite and respectful in conversations/over text, etc. showing interest in their lives/hobby’s (many are in school, have businesses/investments, properties, artists, etc.) I have had regulars that have retired years ago and have regulars I still see in Barrie/GTA and let me tell you that some of my most amazing memorable sessions so far have been 1 or 2 hour sessions with regulars and a little bit of splurging goes a long way (Uber Black, Wine, etc) its really the thought that counts, try to stick out from the crowd a bit. I would rather wait a bit and save up for a 1 or 2 hour session with a good regular than see 4 mediocre at best providers that I never want to see again. I haven’t found a good local regular in Barrie yet, often see the same few travelling SP’s when they visit, but I have a few in the GTA. I love that I don’t have to ask them about menus or restrictions, with a few we don’t even talk have to talk about donations (although I carry extra just in case donations went up). With a few of my regulars the chemistry grew and with one in particular although no GFE was on the menu during an incall she literally grabbed me at the door and began to passionately DFK me, I was shocked but extremely turned on and it ended up being on of the best sessions I’ve had so far.
- Take a break every now and then, hobbying can be beneficial in moderation, especially when you find a muse (Greek mythology), but it’s important to remember to play the game and not let the game play you.
Please feel free to add your own tips, suggestions, critiques, thoughts, etc.
Huncho
