10 Fastest COLLAPSING Cities in Canada in 2025

[DesRicardo]

Like I said, Deflection and Denial.

You ask how for the difference between Conservatives and Liberal, you are given the difference, but still refuse to believe.

“A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point." - Leon Festinger

 

[dotdotdot69]

I know the general difference between the 2 parties. I also simply asked a few times what big difference in housing would be there if say the past 10 years was a major Conservative party in place.

If the average house in Brampton right now is $1.2 million (just making up the number) and a majority Conservative government was in the past 10 years what would the average house in Brampton go for right now? $800K to just $1 million? I don't know. Still out of reach for many young Canadians.

And baby boomers are also a factor in the housing since some of the ones who did well in a city are selling and moving to other areas, but at times have to outbid others to get the property that's also increasing the value of the homes in other small cities or town.

 

[DesRicardo]

Your housing in Brampton. No made up numbers.

Average prices for Brampton homes and condos have more than tripled since 2011

Back in December 2011, Susan Fennell was still mayor of Brampton and Harry Potter was king of the box office — and the average price for a detached home in

www.bramptonguardian.com

I think it's fair to say we wouldn't have such runaway pricing under Conservative leadership. But you will deflect, so why do I bother?

 

[dotdotdot69]

Harper was in until 2015. That chart shows $570K at 2015. So based on 2025 with a majority Conservative government in place if they were in from 2015 till 2025 I'd say my estimated numbers would be close as in $800-$1M. Not denying Liberals made it higher quicker since that chart is showing $1.4M for 2021. We all know in terms of housing they still would go up under the Cons, but slower. The baby boomers push is also a big factor right now in general. Either way hardly that much of a big difference. As for a Google search right now it's showing the average detached home in Brampton $1.1 million.

Also between 2011 and 2015 from the average price for a detached jumped by $122K in 4 years with Harper. Taking into consideration $570K plus roughly $250K (10 years at $25K) it's still fairly close to $800K. And sure if right now it's $1.1M on average based on the Libs and you'd wanna lower it a bit further than $800K probably would have to factor in lots of cuts which impacts consumer spending too not just what the Liberals did too. And those homes if going for $700K right now if you wanna bring the number that low would be being bought by mostly non-Canadians still. Then we can blame someone else besides the Chinese messing things up.

Average home when Ford came in for that area was $700K.

 

[shakenbake]

lol so you employ partisan politics? People would be happy with Mulroney era jobs and homes.

Governments can change laws. We are missing billions with an economy in freefall and China openly manipulating our elections and you think this is business as usual? Ridiculous.

As for housing, out of control immigration directly impacts housing. Pure Liberal policy.

I don’t employ partisan politics. I was pointing out that the conservatives are also equally to blame for the fuckups we have today. Pay attention and open your eyes to what I wrote. Don’t blame just one party.

 

[shakenbake]

I know the general difference between the 2 parties. I also simply asked a few times what big difference in housing would be there if say the past 10 years was a major Conservative party in place.

If the average house in Brampton right now is $1.2 million (just making up the number) and a majority Conservative government was in the past 10 years what would the average house in Brampton go for right now? $800K to just $1 million? I don't know. Still out of reach for many young Canadians.

And baby boomers are also a factor in the housing since some of the ones who did well in a city are selling and moving to other areas, but at times have to outbid others to get the property that's also increasing the value of the homes in other small cities or town.

And, we are going to blame the government of the day in Canada for the world’s economic woes. Might I remind you that we have had a conservative government in power at the provincial level for the years that you pointed to, and that housing prices are more dependant on location rather than who is in Ottawa?

 

[dotdotdot69]

Far as just housing is concerned without bringing a bunch of other things the parties wanna do and such I still stand by it would hardly change much. And yes I'm well aware about the provincial side too in terms of Ontario which I didn't bring up. My general question was leading to that both parties wouldn't have changed much for housing in 2025. I just find it hilarious people's dick get hurt thinking one party or another would have changed much where we are today.

 

[Lenny59]

The WHOLE NATION is circling the drain in the Libtard-NDP nightmare.

 

[Ginomore]

Both sides have pros and cons end of the day it's generally about money without getting into other things.

I would like to know if Libs/Justin weren't in power all these years and it was Conservatives who would be buying new builds or current homes in Canada than the supposedly "Asians". I don't follow politics as much so I'm sure some of you here who do would know what plan the Conservatives would have had for the homes that aren't selling based on what the Liberals did.

If you don’t follow politics as you stated why are you making illogical and uninformed comments in this thread?

 

[dotdotdot69]

I'm done with this topic cause I proved my point. And my original comment said I don't follow it "as much". I already know who I'm voting in the fed election and nor am I a far right or far left voter. In terms of housing the vote doesn't matter. As for many other things both parties stand for and are saying they will do takes my vote. I'm also well aware that many promises aren't fulfilled once elected. You "far" voters/supports can think what you like. If magically homes go back to what they were being sold for in the early 2000s then expect job cuts and wage cuts which I already mentioned. It's not a win for the average joe if you lack funds or overleveraged yourself.

 

[jalimon]

I'm done with this topic cause I proved my point. And my original comment said I don't follow it "as much". I already know who I'm voting in the fed election and nor am I a far right or far left voter. In terms of housing the vote doesn't matter. As for many other things both parties stand for and are saying they will do takes my vote. I'm also well aware that many promises aren't fulfilled once elected. You "far" voters/supports can think what you like. If magically homes go back to what they were being sold for in the early 2000s then expect job cuts and wage cuts which I already mentioned. It's not a win for the average joe if you lack funds or overleveraged yourself.

Happy to know you agree with you.

 

[DesRicardo]

Said his not familiar, could someone explain it to him. It gets explained to him. He still pushes back.

Fucking hilarious.

 

[Ginomore]

Said his not familiar, could someone explain it to him. It gets explained to him. He still pushes back.

Fucking hilarious.

He’s the reason we got stuck with Trudeau for the last decade and now will still vote liberal.
Low iq voter.

 

[Fun For All]

I don’t wanna watch the video. Can someone list the cities?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

For those who have limited attention spans like me

#10 Thunder Bay, Ontario
#9 Saint John, New Brunswick
#8 Timmins, Ontario
#7 Sudbury, Ontario
#6 Windsor, Ontario
#5 Regina, Saskatchewan
#4 Hamilton, Ontario
#3 Kelowna, British Columbia
#2 Lethbridge, Alberta
#1 Brampton, Ontario

 

[CLOUD 500]

Do you think if the Conservatives were in power all these years when it was Libs/Justin we wouldn't be in a similar situation?

Well under Harper, homes and apartments were affordable.

Who's buying land in Canada for millions? Who's developing homes on that land and selling high for a profit? With as small as Canada's population is if Canadians aren't buying up new builds or other homes then the money comes from somewhere else especially when it's big money on the line.

Ridiculous analysis. The people are concentrated in the major cities of Canada. No one is spreading out because first it is way too cold, and second most of Canada is the Canadian Shield making agriculture not possible. The GTA is very densely populated and that is the problem. The Trudeau Liberals had a mass immigration policy that made prices of everything from homes, apartments, to food very expensive. They are also bringing in hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers. The boomers that already own a home are now sitting on gold mines. Simple law of economics, the law of supply and demand. When demand far exceeds supply, then prices goes way up.

 

[CLOUD 500]

What deflection and denial are you talking about? I openly admitted I vote between the 2 parties unlike you.

Did Canada's population increase when Harper was in? Yes. Maybe not as much as Trudeau's reign did sure I'm not denying that but it did.

Did Harper also create new homes? Yes. Maybe not as much as Trudeau/Libs did.

I've also already said Libs spend more and tend to create more jobs to help the economy which has it's pros & cons. Cons tend to cut back so perhaps build fewer homes so less work which also has it's pros & cons for the economy.

You cannot tax a nation into prosperity. The public sector exploded under Trudeau. More bureaucracy. Public sector is not creating wealth, taxpayers pay their wages. It is not the Federal government's responsibility to build homes, this falls under provincial and municipal jurisdictions. But the Federal government is 100% to have uncontrolled immigration. Remember the Trudeau / Carney Liberals voted for the Century Initiative. This is a corporate lobby group and is getting its immigration advice from the McKinsey agency which is a consultant firm for the rich advising them on how to get even more richer. Their goal is to have 100 million people by 2100. To achieve that goal they would have to import 780,000 people yearly. That is absurd. Any wonder we got a housing crisis. Plus there are not enough jobs for all these people but the Liberals will give out freebies to asylum seekers. The spending has to stop. More spending = Devaluing the currency reducing purchasing power.

 

[dotdotdot69]

If the Conservatives were in power the last decade it would most likely mean inflation for homes perhaps would be slower (I already said this). However, people with money (unlike the average joe) tend to out bid each other for property thus causing an increase. Doug Ford has been in power in Ontario since 2018. If Cons do win federally and even if it's a majority government they'll probably slow things down in terms of inflation to slowly steady the market which will probably take another decade to do if they keep winning future elections, but others with money will still out bid others. And like I said if magically homes going for $1.1 million drop back down to $700K to help out the average joe then those with the funds for the down payment will gain somewhat compared to the other guy taking a L especially a huge L if they overleveraged themself and didn't make anything for a profit or much. End of the day people with more money can and will out bid someone else. The middle class remains struggling as usual for housing. A lot of people during the past 10 years did buy more solely as investments than as a shelter for their family, but the same would be happening if the Libs weren't in the past 10 years. Cons would have opened the door to nations than even the Asia market so people are buying stuff instead of the not. And in general in Canada homes go up in price due to population growth even if the Cons didn't allow as many people in like what Trudeau did.

Either way there's not much in it for the average joe for housing comparing to NDP, Libs & Cons. And all parties lie, have scandals and over spend. A few affordable housing units is helping some folks in the lower income bracket if they get in and space is very limited.

In general there's a lot of factors in place for the housing market in Canada between fed, provincial and municipal along with banks and their rates and those with money outbidding. Most jobs aren't offer huge annually raises to keep up with inflation and such.

Even if you wanna compare Texas where homes went up in the price the last 5 years due to population growth and those perhaps selling in places like Cali and move there had the money to outbid locals. And the homes their prior to 5 years ago were moving steadily. Also factor in supply/demand in Texas along with yearly income barely getting much of an increase annually so those local struggle to even buy a 2nd home or perhaps sell and buy another due to bank rates and their income barely changing.

I don't rely on the government for any support along with retirement, doesn't matter what party I stand for.

 

[jalimon]

For those who have limited attention spans like me

#10 Thunder Bay, Ontario
#9 Saint John, New Brunswick
#8 Timmins, Ontario
#7 Sudbury, Ontario
#6 Windsor, Ontario
#5 Regina, Saskatchewan
#4 Hamilton, Ontario
#3 Kelowna, British Columbia
#2 Lethbridge, Alberta
#1 Brampton, Ontario

No city at all in Quebec

Hum after all in order to collapse you need to be at the top first hehe