“Tiger” - the Tiger Woods Documentary

[RichardG2020]

Anyone else watch “Tiger”, the Tiger Woods documentary?

I’m still watching Part 1, but I can’t believe how delusional Earl Woods was.

He publicly said that Tiger would transcend the game and bring to the world a humanitarianism which has never been known before. It’s as if he believed his son to be some kind of a messiah figure.

Imagine the pressure placed on young Tiger’s shoulders? Being a professional athlete is stressful enough. How about carrying the hopes and dreams of Black Americans in a predominantly white and elitist sport? And then your father thinking you’re going to be the next Gandhi..?!? I don’t know how anyone could ever handle that immense level of pressure.

It’s not a surprise to see his personal and professional life spiral out of control so quickly. He’s only human.

 

[eddie kerr]

Anyone else watch “Tiger”, the Tiger Woods documentary?

I’m still watching Part 1, but I can’t believe how delusional Earl Wood’s was.

He publicly said that Tiger would transcend the game and bring to the world a humanitarianism which has never been known before. It’s as if he believed his son to be some kind of a messiah figure.

Imagine the pressure placed on young Tiger’s shoulders? Being a professional athlete is stressful enough. How about carrying the hopes and dreams of Black Americans in a predominantly white and elitist sport? And then your father thinking you’re going to be the next Gandhi..?!? I don’t know how anyone could ever handle that immense level of pressure.

It’s not a surprise to see his personal and professional life spiral out of control so quickly. He’s only human.

You are right about his father, but he also taught a very young Tiger not to be bothered by being called derogatory names and would yell obsenaties at Tiger while the kid was practicing his putting including the N word. Tiger in his early career was constantly verbally abused by fans on the golf course but was able to ignore them mainly because of his father's teachings. I don't know if his dad taught him to become the whoremaster that he ended up being.

 

[Charlemagne]

Anyone else watch “Tiger”, the Tiger Woods documentary?

I’m still watching Part 1, but I can’t believe how delusional Earl Wood’s was.

He publicly said that Tiger would transcend the game and bring to the world a humanitarianism which has never been known before. It’s as if he believed his son to be some kind of a messiah figure.

Imagine the pressure placed on young Tiger’s shoulders? Being a professional athlete is stressful enough. How about carrying the hopes and dreams of Black Americans in a predominantly white and elitist sport? And then your father thinking you’re going to be the next Gandhi..?!? I don’t know how anyone could ever handle that immense level of pressure.

It’s not a surprise to see his personal and professional life spiral out of control so quickly. He’s only human.

Tiger does not see himself as "Black." He refers to himself as "Blasian." African Americans don't really claim him for a few reasons, this being one of them.

In a way his father got his wish. Tiger became a polarizing figure, but for different reasons. It had more to do with exposing the socialization of what we consider "race" and his narcissm, aside from his obvious talents.

Still have to watch the documentary though.

 

[RichardG2020]

Tiger does not see himself as "Black." He refers to himself as "Blasian." African Americans don't really claim him for a few reasons, this being one of them.

In a way his father got his wish. Tiger became a a polarizing figure, but for different reasons. It had more to do with exposing the socialization of what we consider "race" and his narcissm, aside from his obvious talents.

Still have to watch the documentary though.

Yeah, it’s interesting how Tiger referred to himself as ‘Cablinsasian’ to Oprah - as a reflection of his mixed ethnicity (Caucasian, Black, Indian, and Asian).

It disappointed many Blacks including sportscaster, Bryant Gumbel who said that it was his Blackness which really defined his identity in America.

And it was his Blackness which Nike focused on in its early marketing campaigns.

 

[redshank]

Haven't watched it yet but thought Earl was strange with the whole "...use it wisely" statement. The sins of the Father sure passed down to Tiger. His Old Man fucked around on Tiger's Mom as well.

 

[Charlemagne]

Yeah, it’s interesting how Tiger referred to himself as ‘Cablinsasian’ to Oprah - as a reflection of his mixed ethnicity (Caucasian, Black, Indian, and Asian).

It disappointed many Blacks including sportscaster, Bryant Gumbel who said that it was his Blackness which really defined his identity in America.

And it was his Blackness which Nike focused on in its early marketing campaigns.

A lot of half black people (like myself) have a different experience because "Black Society" didn't see us as one of them, but everyone saw us as part of them.

It seems that the rise of some musical acts and sports figures, especially the ones that are half Asian, have challenged the narrative of what society has tried to frame certain people as. This seems to be a more recent phenomenon. Their experience is totally different than just the whole half black half white personalities that have a much different history in North America.

Americans are starting to realize that they don't have a monopoly over racial definitions. And African Americans are starting to feel offended by some mixed race people who out here claiming different identities.

 

[RichardG2020]

A lot of half black people (like myself) have a different experience because Black society didn't see us as one of them, but everyone saw us as part of them.

It seems that the rise of some musical acts and sports figures, especially the ones that are half Asian, have challenged the narrative of what society has tried to frame certain people as. This seems to be a more recent phenomenon. Their experience is totally different than just the whole half black half white personalities that have a much different history in North America.

I had several bi-racial girlfriends in high school and university, and each of them described how challenging it was growing up.

They had a foot in one ethnicity/culture, with a foot in another. And they always felt like they were caught between two worlds - never completely fitting perfectly in either.

I think it’s different now. This generation is very fortunate in that they grew up knowing only diversity in Toronto. Having mixed marriages and bi-racial children is no longer rare and is quite commonplace.

I hope it’s easier for them now compared to when you were growing up.

 

[shack]

I don't know if his dad taught him to become the whoremaster that he ended up being.

Not that that I am suggesting anything but he met his wife while stationed in Thailand. One never knows exactly how they met.

 

[black booty lover]

I watched it. Pretty fascinating how his dad turned his own kind into nothing more than merely a machine to play golf.

The other part I thought was very interesting was the fall out between him and his dad. These parents want their kids to be stars so they can be a star with them. They smother their kids to death and don't give them any space. That might work when they are a kid, but when they start getting into adulthood, the parents just don't get it. They keep trying to be the kids "best friend" like Earl did, but they don't realize they are no longer the 14 year old that looks at you like a god life figure. What they up doing by continuing to smother the kid into adulthood, is they actually up driving a wedge between them and the son or daughter.

 

[lessjamie7]

Anyone else watch “Tiger”, the Tiger Woods documentary?

I’m still watching Part 1, but I can’t believe how delusional Earl Woods was.

He publicly said that Tiger would transcend the game and bring to the world a humanitarianism which has never been known before. It’s as if he believed his son to be some kind of a messiah figure.

Imagine the pressure placed on young Tiger’s shoulders? Being a professional athlete is stressful enough. How about carrying the hopes and dreams of Black Americans in a predominantly white and elitist sport? And then your father thinking you’re going to be the next Gandhi..?!? I don’t know how anyone could ever handle that immense level of pressure.

It’s not a surprise to see his personal and professional life spiral out of control so quickly. He’s only human.

I always get a kick out of golfers being called professional athletes, that makes me and John Daley professional athletes lol.

LJ

 

[Charlemagne]

I had several bi-racial girlfriends in high school and university, and each of them described how challenging it was growing up.

They had a foot in one ethnicity/culture, with a foot in another. And they always felt like they were caught between two worlds - never completely fitting perfectly in either.

I think it’s different now. This generation is very fortunate in that they grew up knowing only diversity in Toronto. Having mixed marriages and bi-racial children is no longer rare and is quite commonplace.

I hope it’s easier for them now compared to when you were growing up.

I think you're right for the most part.

Those mixed with black, seem to have the most trouble fitting in still though.

 

[Sonic Temple]

Gonna start it tonight - I heard it was good.

 

[Zipperpants]

Well messiah is a bit much but I don’t know which sports athlete or person maybe besides the Pope can do this.



remember that masters game when the whole crowd followed him cheering for him to win? I have never seen something like that.

 

[New World]

Its a great documentary - I watched the first episode last night.

On a side note
Earl Woods and his best friend John (cant remember his sur name) were both unfaithful in there marriages.

Tiger is the greatest Golfer ever. And imho if your talking greatest athletes that transcends sports the conversation includes Jordan, Gretzky and Woods in no particular order.

 

[RichardG2020]

Its a great documentary - I watched the first episode last night.

On a side note
Earl Woods and his best friend John (cant remember his sur name) were both unfaithful in there marriages.

Tiger is the greatest Golfer ever. And imho if your talking greatest athletes that transcends sports the conversation includes Jordan, Gretzky and Woods in no particular order.

Men being unfaithful is (excuse the pun) par for the course.

However, Earl did nothing to hide it from Tiger when he was growing up. He was the opposite of discrete. Tiger’s ex-gf mentioned a time when he called her sobbing and in emotional distress, because Earl went off with another strange woman while they were out on the road.

How is a child supposed to reconcile that when he loves both of his parents? I’m sure it inflicted some level of psychological damage on him.

 

[shack]

Its a great documentary - I watched the first episode last night.

On a side note
Earl Woods and his best friend John (cant remember his sur name) were both unfaithful in there marriages.

Tiger is the greatest Golfer ever. And imho if your talking greatest athletes that transcends sports the conversation includes Jordan, Gretzky and Woods in no particular order.

Although all were among the all-time greatest athletes of their sort and because of that their names were known outside of sports circles, as individuals none of them impacted the world outside of sports. As such, I don't think that any of them truly transcended sports.

For that, I look to the indisputable greatest, Muhammad Ali. I'd also include Jim Brown and Kareem. All of them have been advocates of social change and dedicated themselves to various causes to advance those goals. Of course, Ali's stand on Viet Nam was the biggest statement. Jordan was famously criticized for never speaking out and Gretzky and Woods also never wanted to make waves.

I guess it depends on one's definition of "transcend". To some it is simply being known outside of sport, to others it using their fame to make an impact on society outside of their sport. For me, it's the latter.

BTW, I think that in the eyes of veteran observers, the consensus is that Jack is still #1.

 

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Anyone else watch “Tiger”, the Tiger Woods documentary?

I’m still watching Part 1, but I can’t believe how delusional Earl Woods was.

He publicly said that Tiger would transcend the game and bring to the world a humanitarianism which has never been known before. It’s as if he believed his son to be some kind of a messiah figure.

Imagine the pressure placed on young Tiger’s shoulders? Being a professional athlete is stressful enough. How about carrying the hopes and dreams of Black Americans in a predominantly white and elitist sport? And then your father thinking you’re going to be the next Gandhi..?!? I don’t know how anyone could ever handle that immense level of pressure.

It’s not a surprise to see his personal and professional life spiral out of control so quickly. He’s only human.

Greatest threat to kids are the sick and delusional parents who don’t respect the child’s being and humanity and believe they are their property or a widget to be indoctrinated and programmed as the please. Look at what happened to Michael Jackson.

Where does the cycle end.

What a bunch of cowards taking it out on their kids and projecting all their deficiencies on their kids because they are failures IRL

 

[downbound123]

remember that masters game when the whole crowd followed him cheering for him to win? I have never seen something like that.

That wasn't the masters, it was walking up the 18th at Eastlake in 2018 at the tour championship his first win since 2013.

 

[malata]

moral of the story is, if yo wants lots of pussy, learn to play the greens

 

[downbound123]

BTW, I think that in the eyes of veteran observers, the consensus is that Jack is still #1.

I agree, Even though Tiger is close in Majors 15 to Jack's 18 what really defines Jack as the best is the fact that he finished 2nd in majors 19 times to Tiger's 6. You could say that Jack had the opportunity to win 37 majors!!!! By any standards and comparison that sets him far ahead, IMO.