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‘White genocide in space’: Racist fans seethe at diversity in new ‘Star Trek’ series

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Star Trek has always been a show centred on social commentary clothed in the garb of science fiction. Here's a great example from the original series (featuring the incomparable Frank Gorshin as a guest star) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi7QQ5pO7_A.

There is nothing wrong with television shows addressing social issues. The key is for everyone watching to remember that it is just entertainment, not the last and only word on the subjects covered. I thought the Gorshin episode was excellent. However, I wasn't persuaded that racial tensions in America are based solely on the idea that races appear different than one another. There's also the backdrop of slavery, KKK violence, the infiltration of gangs into black communities, etc.... you get the idea. Hard to cram all of that into 51 minutes (in the 1960's, less now). After all, have to tackle arranged marriages next week, and then technology run amok the week after that!

Personally, I think it was helpful for there to have been a Captain Janeway (in the same way that it was helpful to have a black President, and will be helpful to have a woman President). Captain Janeway made just as many mistakes as any other Captain. If you take it in that light, it nicely undercuts the myth that the world would be a better place if only it was run by women instead of men.

Oh, and the other key is for the producers/writers/actors to remember that they are entertainers, not community leaders, and keep their off screen sermonizing for themselves and their cocktail party guests.
 

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However, unless you're claiming Rodenberry said the Vulcans were the Lost Tribe of Israel you just defeated your own point. As you say, the Jewish Nimoy will forever be remembered as a Vulcan by many, but he can never ever be the Jewish Vulcan of your post.

And for one fan, Shatner will always be foremost the renderer of Lucy in Sky. When I glimpsed Shatner pretending to be Kirk, my first thought was, "Wasn't he once on CBC's Space Command, back in the '50s?" confirmed when James Doohan, a regular on that show, turned up as Scottie. For me, nothing he did as Kirk ever supplanted that. We all have our own memories; we can see if we share common ones, but it's dangerous to simply assume we do. I have friends who first saw Shatner at Stratford, and only much later heard he'd done TV-sci-fi, "… something called Startrack?"

The real deal: Actors are real people who impersonate those pretend characters. Actors have nationality, ethnicity and religion, which they put away and conceal when you're watching them perform. Characters are inventions, and what you see is only as real as the wigs, and make-up, and the carefully-faked settings that folks like me built and dressed around them. All to aid the deception invented by the writers who put their scripted words in the mouths of those performers to say instead of their own. Nice to know that worked so convincingly, but my actor friends and relatives would be pissed at you for not recognizing the difference between a passing bit of their skilled craft and themselves.

And to clear up your new points: Are you really saying there was an episode where Sulu was established as gay? Or was this just another of your mush-ups of fictional character and human actor? And what's with a Russian being technically white? Anyone who is pale enough to be really white is dead from bleeding out. And until someone comes up with scientific definitions, the last thing any of those phony racist descriptors like black, red, yellow or white can possibly be is 'technically' anything.
I don't give a shit about their craft. Im paying to be entertained, so dance monkey!! About Sulu- another poster brought that up and I originally did not mentioned it as he was playing it straight. Actually, Mr. Sulu-(whatever his name) did his best work on the Howard Stern Show. Russians are not white, they're pale- too much mongoloid blood(it's a European thing).
 

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Star Trek has always been a show centred on social commentary clothed in the garb of science fiction. Here's a great example from the original series (featuring the incomparable Frank Gorshin as a guest star) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi7QQ5pO7_A.

There is nothing wrong with television shows addressing social issues. The key is for everyone watching to remember that it is just entertainment, not the last and only word on the subjects covered. I thought the Gorshin episode was excellent. However, I wasn't persuaded that racial tensions in America are based solely on the idea that races appear different than one another. There's also the backdrop of slavery, KKK violence, the infiltration of gangs into black communities, etc.... you get the idea. Hard to cram all of that into 51 minutes (in the 1960's, less now). After all, have to tackle arranged marriages next week, and then technology run amok the week after that!

Personally, I think it was helpful for there to have been a Captain Janeway (in the same way that it was helpful to have a black President, and will be helpful to have a woman President). Captain Janeway made just as many mistakes as any other Captain. If you take it in that light, it nicely undercuts the myth that the world would be a better place if only it was run by women instead of men.

Oh, and the other key is for the producers/writers/actors to remember that they are entertainers, not community leaders, and keep their off screen sermonizing for themselves and their cocktail party guests.
Correct. Did Riker not do a hemaphrodite in one of the episodes?
 

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I don't give a shit about their craft. Im paying to be entertained, so dance monkey!! About Sulu- another poster brought that up and I originally did not mentioned it as he was playing it straight. Actually, Mr. Sulu-(whatever his name) did his best work on the Howard Stern Show. Russians are not white, they're pale- too much mongoloid blood(it's a European thing).
Thanks for clearing all that up. Since you don't care what you're saying, or about whom and can't be bothered to separate fact from fiction, never mind be coherent about tour own thoughts I'll leave you to it.
 

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Canada Man says he doesn't get the paranoia about white genocide, after Fuji says in the near future all current Europeans will be beige via ethic cleansing. Fuji's final solution to the European problem. Fuji reminds me of Edward Longshanks in Braveheart when he says "The problem will Scotland is there's too many Scots, if we can't get them out we'll breed them out!"

CBC recently released a ethnic cleansing song "Beige Power" which sang about the coming end of white people. It recieved so much hate on YouTube they had to disable the comments. It got something like 200 likes and 25k downvotes.

The distant future forced diversity space movies don't bother me, what bothers me is Hollywood also starting to try and rewrite history by forcing diversity in times where there was basically none. For example I just got back from the new King Arthur movie, set around 500 AD, and now half the Knights of the round table are black and Asian. The enemies were an all white army who were at one point giving Nazi Salutes.

If you go back to the last King Arthur movie just as recently as 2004 with Clive Owen, it was an all white cast where whites were the good guys and the enemies, with no attempted underlying message of "whites evil, multiracial band good."
 

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Canada Man says he doesn't get the paranoia about white genocide, after Fuji says in the near future all current Europeans will be beige via ethic cleansing. Fuji's final solution to the European problem. Fuji reminds me of Edward Longshanks in Braveheart when he says "The problem will Scotland is there's too many Scots, if we can't get them out we'll breed them out!"

CBC recently released a ethnic cleansing song "Beige Power" which sang about the coming end of white people. It recieved so much hate on YouTube they had to disable the comments. It got something like 200 likes and 25k downvotes.

The distant future forced diversity space movies don't bother me, what bothers me is Hollywood also starting to try and rewrite history by forcing diversity in times where there was basically none. For example I just got back from the new King Arthur movie, set around 500 AD, and now half the Knights of the round table are black and Asian. The enemies were an all white army who were at one point giving Nazi Salutes.

If you go back to the last King Arthur movie just as recently as 2004 with Clive Owen, it was an all white cast where whites were the good guys and the enemies, with no attempted underlying message of "whites evil, multiracial band good."
Inter racial marriage is ethic cleansing?

Are you a fucked up white supremacist? The kind that goes about screaming "race traitor" at mixed couples?

Go back to the stone age.
 

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Inter racial marriage is ethic cleansing?

Are you a fucked up white supremacist? The kind that goes about screaming "race traitor" at mixed couples?

Go back to the stone age.
You don't want just some interracial marriage, you clearly stated that you want it to the point where all 1 billion Europeans turn beige.

Why don't you want mass migration and interracial mixing into Israel then? Not just some but to the point where all Israelis become totally unrecognizable from their current make up. On that subject you sound EXACTLY LIKE THE PEOPLE YOU CLAIM TO HATE! You Jewish Supremacist Stone Age hate filled RACIST!

Toronto sun agrees turning all whites beige is genocide. Fuji is an hate filled idiot hypocrite confirmed.

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/12/06/seeing-red-over-beige-power-rap-parody

The “inevitable” elimination of the white race by the year 3000, replaced by “Mexijews, McWops or Chonkies”?

What’s not to laugh at?

Well, not everyone is laughing at CBC’s This Hour Has 22 Minutes star Shaun Majumder’s Beige Power rap video parody on last week’s show.

However you look at it, the comedy bit has got people talking.

“People, it’s inevitable a beige horizon, brown meets white, no use in disguising,” the comedian raps. “People out making whoopee, colour-blinded by love, genetic crisscrossing, forgot to wear a glove. Whoops. There it goes generational drip. Look at the pure breeds losing their grip.”

And the chorus is catchy: “Beige, power, beige power, mixy, mixy arousing, we are going to look the same by the year 3000.”

He also chirps “listen up all white, supreme Nazis, embrace the beige, mixy mix today, put your hate away” — seemingly aiming at the Americans and last month’s election result.

“So all you mixed-race beauties, rise up, rise up. All you Chonky’s in the house, rise up! Mexijews fixing your house. Rise up. Beaner-schnitzels guten tag — buenos dias! McWops roll up the rim ... Rasta Fazoul, roll me a blunt. Hope you’re listening, Mr. Trump? And Mr. Bannon better join the club because it’s time to climb your ass down from your gold tower, jump off the bland wagon and feel the beige power.”

Needless to say, social media is on fire.

“There is nothing “funny” about white genocide,” tweets Ho Hum. “Can you imagine if instead of whites they targeted Asians or blacks?”

If there is any worry about it, the CBC or 22 Minutes’ production company didn’t express it.

“We have not had any complaints,” said Tracey Jardine, VP of production for DHX Media Ltd., adding Majumder is “travelling” and unavailable for comment.

As for the controversy? “We have no concerns,” she said. “It’s a comedy satire show.”

CBC spokesman Chuck Thompson also pointed out it’s satire focusing on the news of the day.

“The segment you’re referring to is in keeping with the overall tone and tenor of the program,” he said.

But some take offence to that tenor.

“I am an employee of the Canadian government and am deeply embarrassed by our state media, the CBC. I could not believe a government sponsored broadcast was promoting the idea of the genocide of Caucasians through breeding,” said reader Kyle Fehr. “It seems paradoxical for a government based on the slogan, “Diversity is our strength,” to advocate a future where everyone is beige. If that video was about any other race, ethnicity or culture, would it have been aired?”

This would be a good time for another comedian to test the waters to find out.

Why not? We have free speech here.

Majumder, who is from a mixed-race family and has talked of facing racism himself, is a funnyman out of the Newfoundland tradition that produced other greats, such as Rick Mercer and Mary Walsh. He was just doing some provocative comedy — clever word play which pushes the envelope. He’s just joking.

His peers I spoke with agree.

“I found it funny,” said Frenchie McFarlane. “If you don’t like it, don’t freak out about it! Just change the channel to something else — Duck Dynasty.”

Of course Duck Dynasty’s star Phil Robertson’s comments on homosexuality and race got him temporarily suspended.

No need for that here.

“It’s comedy so I can’t understand what people could be that upset about,” said That Canadian Guy, Glen Foster.

He sees the “double standard” but wonders who is taking offence. “If it’s white people, no one will give a s---, anyway. Again, if anyone white, and especially white male, made the same points being made in this video, or used the same terms, the (politically correct police) would be pounding down the door.”

He’s right. Hopefully, Majumder’s rap will help lighten things up — no pun intended. Honest.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GJD6Y662VfU

Now a new name for Fuji could be genocidal maniac, Fuji the genocidal maniac!
 

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It's a good point. But. In the collective consciousness of the fans of Star Trek, where does Nimoy end and Spock begin? Is Shatner going to go to his grave as anything else but Capt. Kirk? Some roles cannot be separated from the people who played them. We can, of course, be pedantic about it and apply racial equality to science fiction characters which is kind of dumb. And, even in that case, the bridge was pretty diverse with one Vulcan, a (gay)Oriental, a black human female, a white captain and a Russian(technically white). And that was in the 60s, what's the problem?
Little detail; In the original series, the character Sulu was not gay. Star Trek Beyond re-invented Sulu as gay. Chekov was indeed Russian, but his TV Trek character trait was supposed to be unusually young bridge officer (although he didn't look or act it) and to add some comic relief (everything was invented in wussia).

Star Trek fans have no problem differentiating between Nimoy and Spock and Shatner and Kirk. Shatner did a pretty good job of alienating the fans for several years via sarcasm and stupid remarks. He tried to later re-engage with the fans, but between his remarks, mega-ego and his not-supporting his fellow actors over syndication royalties and movie rights allot of fans couldn't care less about Shatner.
 

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You don't want just some interracial marriage, you clearly stated that you want it to the point where all 1 billion Europeans turn beige.

Why don't you want mass migration and interracial mixing into Israel then? Not just some but to the point where all Israelis become totally unrecognizable from their current make up. On that subject you sound EXACTLY LIKE THE PEOPLE YOU CLAIM TO HATE! You Jewish Supremacist Stone Age hate filled RACIST!

Toronto sun agrees turning all whites beige is genocide. Fuji is an hate filled idiot hypocrite confirmed.

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/12/06/seeing-red-over-beige-power-rap-parody

The “inevitable” elimination of the white race by the year 3000, replaced by “Mexijews, McWops or Chonkies”?

What’s not to laugh at?

Well, not everyone is laughing at CBC’s This Hour Has 22 Minutes star Shaun Majumder’s Beige Power rap video parody on last week’s show.

However you look at it, the comedy bit has got people talking.

“People, it’s inevitable a beige horizon, brown meets white, no use in disguising,” the comedian raps. “People out making whoopee, colour-blinded by love, genetic crisscrossing, forgot to wear a glove. Whoops. There it goes generational drip. Look at the pure breeds losing their grip.”

And the chorus is catchy: “Beige, power, beige power, mixy, mixy arousing, we are going to look the same by the year 3000.”

He also chirps “listen up all white, supreme Nazis, embrace the beige, mixy mix today, put your hate away” — seemingly aiming at the Americans and last month’s election result.

“So all you mixed-race beauties, rise up, rise up. All you Chonky’s in the house, rise up! Mexijews fixing your house. Rise up. Beaner-schnitzels guten tag — buenos dias! McWops roll up the rim ... Rasta Fazoul, roll me a blunt. Hope you’re listening, Mr. Trump? And Mr. Bannon better join the club because it’s time to climb your ass down from your gold tower, jump off the bland wagon and feel the beige power.”

Needless to say, social media is on fire.

“There is nothing “funny” about white genocide,” tweets Ho Hum. “Can you imagine if instead of whites they targeted Asians or blacks?”

If there is any worry about it, the CBC or 22 Minutes’ production company didn’t express it.

“We have not had any complaints,” said Tracey Jardine, VP of production for DHX Media Ltd., adding Majumder is “travelling” and unavailable for comment.

As for the controversy? “We have no concerns,” she said. “It’s a comedy satire show.”

CBC spokesman Chuck Thompson also pointed out it’s satire focusing on the news of the day.

“The segment you’re referring to is in keeping with the overall tone and tenor of the program,” he said.

But some take offence to that tenor.

“I am an employee of the Canadian government and am deeply embarrassed by our state media, the CBC. I could not believe a government sponsored broadcast was promoting the idea of the genocide of Caucasians through breeding,” said reader Kyle Fehr. “It seems paradoxical for a government based on the slogan, “Diversity is our strength,” to advocate a future where everyone is beige. If that video was about any other race, ethnicity or culture, would it have been aired?”

This would be a good time for another comedian to test the waters to find out.

Why not? We have free speech here.

Majumder, who is from a mixed-race family and has talked of facing racism himself, is a funnyman out of the Newfoundland tradition that produced other greats, such as Rick Mercer and Mary Walsh. He was just doing some provocative comedy — clever word play which pushes the envelope. He’s just joking.

His peers I spoke with agree.

“I found it funny,” said Frenchie McFarlane. “If you don’t like it, don’t freak out about it! Just change the channel to something else — Duck Dynasty.”

Of course Duck Dynasty’s star Phil Robertson’s comments on homosexuality and race got him temporarily suspended.

No need for that here.

“It’s comedy so I can’t understand what people could be that upset about,” said That Canadian Guy, Glen Foster.

He sees the “double standard” but wonders who is taking offence. “If it’s white people, no one will give a s---, anyway. Again, if anyone white, and especially white male, made the same points being made in this video, or used the same terms, the (politically correct police) would be pounding down the door.”

He’s right. Hopefully, Majumder’s rap will help lighten things up — no pun intended. Honest.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GJD6Y662VfU

Now a new name for Fuji could be genocidal maniac, Fuji the genocidal maniac!
You really are some fucked up white supremacist!

Beige is the natural long run consequence of nobody giving a shit about race. We're talking about Star Trek, a show that takes place in the far future. It's only going to take a few hundred years for the gene pool to mix.
 

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All this nonsense about white genocide is a moot point, we are now in Stage 2 of global warming. Stage 1 started in 1988.

Joseph Conrad foresaw the future when he wrote Heart of Darkness, all those African regions brutally exploited by the European powers would become failed states. He was also spot on about the Russian Revolution.

Check out Canada's latest tennis prodigy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b91ffjRsqiQ
 

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I don't know anything about Abanda, her bio says she's born in Montreal to Cameroonian parents.

She qualified for the French Open, Denis Shapovalov did not. She won a round but got spanked by Caroline Wozniacki two love match.

The Canadian prodigy the experts have their eyes on is Felix Aliassime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfZdviJJ4GI
 

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You attack climate science, which you know nothing about. It shows your lack of knowledge of basic highschool level science.

Black people use the word "Coon" to describe people like Stacey Dash, Sheriff Clarke, Alan West Etc...basically we are telling you we DO NOT accept you. It's a common term that African Americans use to describe one of their own that behaves like what Malcolm X characterises as a House Negro.
I'm not using the classical definition, stop playing semantical games.

I've read lots of peer reviewed feminist works, and I can tell that you don't know what you're talking about. I've also studied under very prominent feminists and when you post about nonsensical blogs it's just comedy.

It's ironic that you live to bash Muslims, but your people The Jamaicans are considered way more of a burden on Western societies that they are part of. Go look at murders in Toronto for the last 30 years and tell me who are the primary culprits.
There you go with you stupidity again. You complain about someone bashing a group of people then go on to do the same exact thing. Are you well? Jamaicans aren't considered any burden on society. A lot of top or well to do doctors, lawyers, accountants, businessmen, scientist engineers are Jamaicans. So you need to chill with that bull shit once and for all. And I don't want to go this route, but you can possibly be comparing thugs in one group killing other thugs for the most with zealot targetting kids at a concert, as one example. You've got to be kidding me!

I missed your answer, the last time I asked. Are you possibly from the Eastern Caribbean? You may not be, but your rhetoric is very suspicious.
 

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. HOUSE NEGRO is a historical term coined by a black civil rights leader.

Unlike you I'm out there in the black community. You're on the internet in your mom's basement.

Stop talking about science you know nothing about it.
You're in the black community doing what? What is a/the black community anyway? Even then, the way you talk, you sound more like a danger to it and pretty clueless. Jamaicans are at the forefront of demanding equal rights for black people in Canada and the UK. However, petty people like you are too blind to see it and let your hatred for people from one country cloud your judgement. People like you are the reason why the proverbial community will remain two steps behind. May well as delete the unity from the word community when you're around.

Stop trying to sellout one of the most influential groups in the struggle in order to make yourself look good. You accuse canada-man of being a house negro. I say that is pretty frigging ironic coming from you!
 

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You're in the black community doing what? What is a/the black community anyway? Even then, the way you talk, you sound more like a danger to it and pretty clueless. Jamaicans are at the forefront of demanding equal rights for black people in Canada and the UK. However, petty people like you are too blind to see it and let your hatred for people from one country cloud your judgement. People like you are the reason why the proverbial community will remain two steps behind. May well as delete the unity from the word community when you're around.

Stop trying to sellout one of the most influential groups in the struggle in order to make yourself look good. You accuse canada-man of being a house negro. I say that is pretty frigging ironic coming from you!
derrick he is banned
 

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You don't want just some interracial marriage, you clearly stated that you want it to the point where all 1 billion Europeans turn beige. ...
And why is that a problem? I know you enjoy spouting racial isolationist view but in the real world, people are people and groups have intermarried from the start of civilization. That won't stop you from pretending it is some kind of evil plot or you thinking you are somehow special just because you have European ancestors.
 

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1. Athletic - yes. Hot? - not my cup of tea.

2. Is Plekanic a good tennis player? He seemed in control of their rallies.

3. Is Plekanic short, or is she quite tall?
Do her tennis skills depend on how much of a boner she can give you?

I'm sure she will be someone's cup of tea.
 

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Do her tennis skills depend on how much of a boner she can give you?

I'm sure she will be someone's cup of tea.
How on earth did you get triggered by what I posted?

This is a pooner board. Most of the time people post pictures of celebrities, it's because they think they're hot.

As to her tennis skills, the video didn't make her look very good, because (as I said) it made it look like Plekanic was in control of their rallies. Maybe the video was unfair. Maybe she was taking it easy on Plekanic. Maybe Plekanic is a good tennis player (which is why I asked).

Get a grip on yourself, man! Is she a relative or something?
 
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