if you believe that god exists
then you have to assume that he created the "Assholes" as well as the saints
the sun shines equally on roses and poison ivy
How does one reconcile religion with SW?
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then you have to assume that he created the "Assholes" as well as the saints
the sun shines equally on roses and poison ivy
Bro’s literally named Devil in here discussing religionif anything SW are angels without wings
I for one, agree with this Great Deceiver.If we’re measuring by puritanical standards then 90%+ of the masses are damned either way. Regardless of participating of sex work.
By more liberal religious standards I think just living a good life trying to follow the golden rule will cover you.
And by Atheist/Agnostic standards this is all make believe or too unknowable to bother discussing.
The lovely lady shouldn’t worry about it. Just keep on trucking and don’t be an asshole.
If it was a an orthodox Jewish wedding, it was fake shrimp, made out of fish. Just like we have kosher sushi.
It helps the attendees to feel a little naughty...
Although I am a devout atheist, I am far more likely to take the evidence of what happens, and has happened, both historically, and daily, on Earth, and to believe in the existence of a malevolent deity...
You don't reconcile it. Not without massive self-delusion and cognitive dissonance. You mentioned you suffer cognitive dissonance over this, so there's your answer.
Religion is bullshit anyway.
Religion is bullshit anyway.
What answers did you expect to get from an escort review forum?
A priest will guide you in the right direction once you confess it all. Amen.
I am afraid that I will regret getting into a conversation about God with a Jewish guy
I remember this joke:
"Two old men are discussing if there is or isn't a God
third old man hears the conversation and says:
if there is no God then this conversation is for nothing
but if there is a God, then this conversation could have serious consequences"
some believe that Earth is a jail created by higher beings who harvest our negative emotions and feed on them
fear, hate, anger, guilt, jealousy, shame to name a few are just low level energy that feeds our owners
and reincarnation is just a way they keep us here so they can keep feeding on our misery
that's why there is so much suffering on earth
I'm so glad a concept of a "god" created earth and already knew as our sun (a star) will get big enough to kill off all humanity and eventually destroys this planet then that star will blow up too.
You didn't exist before 2 people decided to have intercourse. You won't exist once you're dead. Enjoy life, it's a short ride.
You didn't exist before 2 people decided to have intercourse. You won't exist once you're dead. Enjoy life, it's a short ride.
I'm agnostic but have gone through the going to church stuff when I was very young. IMO, the only conflict you have is more personal in your belief in God vs your work as an escort. There are times we all doubt ourselves regarding certain things in our lives but work them out and move on. And I perceive this may be the OP's concern, how to make peace with her religious beliefs vs having worked as an escort. If you're proud of both the work you did as an escort and your belief in God then I don't see any problems. Just enjoy the happiness and pride you have in both.
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Thanks for sharing this. I’m not at all religious, however we all will experience different types of cognitive dissonance in participating in the world of the sex trade.
I’ll just say this. Many “devout” religious people in our world will profess their love and devotion to their god, while at the same time bomb the shit out of other people who don’t agree with them, when killing is probably the most major sin in any religion. I think your “transgressions” are relatively mild.
Remember, Jesus did not judge or shun prostitutes, he forgave them, and offered them mercy, while criticizing the hypocrites like I illustrated above. Like I said, I’m not at all religious, but I think he would forgive you. I would also imagine that the real “sin” one commits when doing sex work is having extramarital sex/ adultery. You are in good company with the vast majority of society.
Not an Orthodox Jewish wedding, real shrimps and lobsters. This family knows all the best Chinese restaurants where they give you the large shrimps. They told me about a Chinese restaurant ( not kosher ) that had a large Jewish clientele where they would often see Jews they know dining there. ( isn't that like seeing someone leaving a rub and tug as you are going in )
Lots of Conservative Jews keep kosher at home, but anything goes in restaurants.
My parents were like that.
from Wikipedia:
Jewish-American patronage of Chinese restaurants
Jewish-American patronage of Chinese restaurants is a cultural phenomenon, particularly associated with Christmas, that emerged in American Jewish culture in early 20th century New York City.
The tradition developed as large Jewish and Chinese immigrant communities lived in close proximity on Manhattan's Lower East Side. They were, as observers noted, "bound by proximity and otherness" as the two largest non-Christian immigrant groups. Chinese restaurants welcomed Jewish customers compared to the antisemitism Jews experienced in the eateries of other immigrant groups, lacked Christian iconography, and appeared compatible with Jewish dietary laws because the food did not mix milk and meat. Despite the presence of pork and shellfish, the chopping and concealment of ingredients allowed many Jews to view the cuisine as acceptable.
By the 1930s, Chinese restaurants were firmly established in Jewish neighborhoods, and eating Chinese food on Christmas became a ritualized alternative to a holiday not usually celebrated by Jews. Over time, the practice evolved into a marker of American Jewish culture, celebrated for reinforcing community bonds, symbolizing assimilation, and reflecting the ongoing construction of Jewish identity in the United States.
Jewish-Canadian too...
If you have gone to church you will know that are not much different than your visit. You teach men about one of God's most amazing gifts and pass the collection plate after the sermon.
I think once a week should do the trick.............no pun intended.
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KING DAVID:
- The Lust: David saw Bathsheba bathing from his palace roof. He desired her and brought her to the palace.
- The Pregnancy: Bathsheba became pregnant with David's child.
- The Failed Cover-Up: David called Uriah back from the war. He wanted Uriah to sleep with his wife to hide the pregnancy. Uriah refused because his fellow soldiers were still sleeping in tents during the battle.
- The Murder Plot: David sent a secret order to his army commander, Joab. He told Joab to put Uriah at the front of the fiercest battle and pull the other troops back so Uriah would be killed.
- The Confrontation: Uriah died in battle. David then married Bathsheba. God sent the prophet Nathan to expose David's sin. David confessed and repented of what he had done.
If God forgave David for having the husband of a woman he desired killed in battle so he could marry the woman Bathsheba, I am sure he can forgive you for making you insanely hot so you can bring happiness to so many of his deprived children.
All you have to do is write a book in repentance just like David wrote the bulk of the Book of Psalms after committing murder.
Mary Magdalene was a huge character in Jesus life...one of the oldest profession....I would say without the SWs there would be a lot more wars
Milana, I am a client who has been paying for sex for decades. I am also a non-denominational Christian. (I was raised as a protestant, not a Catholic). I believe there is a God and I pray every day. (Well, maybe I accidentally miss the occasional day.) Your church attendance is better than mine — I show up once in a while (always because a friend or family member is going and I’m tagging along).
I’ve read enough of the Bible to know that one can find harsh condemnations of prostitution in it, particularly in the Christian New Testament.
I resolve the seeming contradiction this way: I take the Bible seriously, but I don’t believe that it is the “word of God”. Reading the Bible, I’ve spotted too many contradictions to think that that makes sense. The Bible was written by men, flawed men who, even if they were frequently inspired by God, nevertheless were able to make mistakes.
I find the words in the New Testament of writers like Paul and John of Patmos to be interesting, but I also take them with a grain of salt. (I mention those two because they’re probably the most harsh in relation to “harlots”.) I consider them to be mistaken on this point.
I pay much more attention to the words of Jesus. I’m a Christian, not a Paulian or a Johnian. And the words of Jesus, as recorded in the Bible, never condemn prostitution.
Indeed, a detail that complicates the discussion of Jesus and prostitution is rarely discussed.
“Messiah” and “christ” are the Hebrew and Greek words for the same concept: the anointed one. Jesus was “The Anointed One”. That meant that someone had to anoint Him. In “Old Testament” anointings, the anointer was always a man. A man who was either a prophet or a priest — in other words, a man with religious authority.
That’s not the case for Jesus. The four biblical gospels give four very similar accounts of the anointing of Jesus (in Matthew chapter 26, Mark chapter 14, Luke chapter 7, and John chapter 12). They are accounts of the same event, an event in which Jesus was anointed, not by a man, but by a woman.
In Luke’s gospel, she's described as “a woman who was a sinner”. In John’s gospel, she's named — her name was Mary. And because this Mary was walking around with her hair publicly exposed, we know that she was a prostitute. (In the ancient world, it was seen as sexually provocative for a woman to expose her hair publicly — only prostitutes did so.) I note that Mary’s hair was publicly displayed during the anointing, indicating that she was still a prostitute at the time of the anointing. (This wasn’t something that she had repented of and left in the past.)
The only other significant person with the name Mary in John’s gospel is Mary Magdalene. (The name of the mother of Jesus is not given in that gospel.) So it’s sensible to conclude that the anointer of Jesus was Mary Magdalene.
This is the reason why Mary Magdalene was traditionally considered to be a prostitute. Only recently have various Christian denominations and biblical scholars been attempting to “rehabilitate” the image of Mary Magdalene by vehemently denying that she was a prostitute. I suspect that these MM image-rehabilitators are motivated by whorephobia, but they’re ignoring the solid scriptural reasons for the traditional view.
So why did Jesus arrange for a prostitute to anoint him? I have no idea, but it’s not what one would do if one had a negative impression of prostitution. It was a provocative and bold thing to do, even if we’re not exactly sure of the message that Jesus intended to convey.
Milana, there’s my reply to your request for the perspective of people like me.
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I imagine that the atheists who’ve already responded to Milana will have a field day with my answer.
“If you admit that there are contradictions in the Bible, why pay any attention to it?”
“You’re just cherry-picking the stuff from the Bible that serves your bias and your lifestyle!”
Atheism makes no sense to me. I can not relate at all to a materialistic world-view that posits that life has no spiritual meaning and that we and our world were created through random chance. It is obvious to me that intelligent design is on display all around us. Those of you who are atheists will disagree, and that’s fine. I’m not trying to convince you or argue with you. I’m not writing this post for you. I’m writing it because a fellow Christian asked for my opinion (or, at least, for the opinions of Christians who sell sexual services or pay for them).
