Indulge in Toronto, continue to work on marriage or both?

Newjackoff24 · Jul 10, 2026

I've decided to cancel my trip, refund the airline tickets and return the burner phone. I'll continue to focus on our sexual relationship.

update: I read her the infidelity erotic story this week and wow. The background is that some time ago I wrote her one about a childhood friend of hers from her home. They develop a friendship and it goes too far. He takes charge. Sucks her breasts, she gives him a lap dance orgasm a few weeks before returning to college (and me). Well we read it together and she liked it. She actually said it was realistic (what!??). I was happy my Catholic wife enjoyed it.

The second one we read this week: this same guy finds her on social media 25 years later. Innocent texts. Then phone calls. He's a well to do businessman now. Comes to our house, while I'm on a business trip. His cock is bigger than mine, pleasantly thick too. She's soaked before he arrives. French kissing, her moaning, begging for his cum, riding him, laughing, dirty talk, him sucking her tits while she calls his name.

So I literally read this smut to my church wife while giving her an erotic massage. My hands on her as this guy's hands are on her in the story.

Wouldn't you know but my wife rubbed her clit the whole time as I'm reading this, the male character is saying he wants her "married pussy", I have her telling him she loves the scent of his cum on her breasts, praising him for his ability to pleasure her, she is watching his circumcised cock disappear and reappear in her pussy...and my wife is literally having orgasms as I'm reading all this to her. After it was done, she rode me and we both came, she giggles and said she would sleep well tonight.

This is the kind of fun I'm looking for so I'll continue to nurture that. And we will be in the front row in church on Sunday. Thanks to all for the advice.

mydarkvanessa · Jul 11, 2026

Newjackoff24 said:
I've decided to cancel my trip, refund the airline tickets and return the burner phone. I'll continue to focus on our sexual relationship.

update: I read her the infidelity erotic story this week and wow. The background is that some time ago I wrote her one about a childhood friend of hers from her home. They develop a friendship and it goes too far. He takes charge. Sucks her breasts, she gives him a lap dance orgasm a few weeks before returning to college (and me). Well we read it together and she liked it. She actually said it was realistic (what!??). I was happy my Catholic wife enjoyed it.

The second one we read this week: this same guy finds her on social media 25 years later. Innocent texts. Then phone calls. He's a well to do businessman now. Comes to our house, while I'm on a business trip. His cock is bigger than mine, pleasantly thick too. She's soaked before he arrives. French kissing, her moaning, begging for his cum, riding him, laughing, dirty talk, him sucking her tits while she calls his name.

So I literally read this smut to my church wife while giving her an erotic massage. My hands on her as this guy's hands are on her in the story.

Wouldn't you know but my wife rubbed her clit the whole time as I'm reading this, the male character is saying he wants her "married pussy", I have her telling him she loves the scent of his cum on her breasts, praising him for his ability to pleasure her, she is watching his circumcised cock disappear and reappear in her pussy...and my wife is literally having orgasms as I'm reading all this to her. After it was done, she rode me and we both came, she giggles and said she would sleep well tonight.

This is the kind of fun I'm looking for so I'll continue to nurture that. And we will be in the front row in church on Sunday. Thanks to all for the advice.

You should start offering paid sexting sessions.

You’re a decent writer.

I went to catholic school. Trust me, some of those people are the horniest.

Muchadoaboutnothing · Jul 12, 2026

Newjackoff24 said:
Italian. She cums very nicely and loves sex when we have it but...every 2-3 weeks for 20 years is a lot to overcome. .

I suggest learning about the female hormone cycle each month and also life cycle to see what stage of the month to initiate for better success Learn love languages. Ask what she wants and prefers to not have resentment.
if hormones and perimenopause arean issue use your health benefits to get help. Hormone creams hormone replacement. Pressure on anyone takes the fun out and makes it a chore fyi

Muchadoaboutnothing · Jul 12, 2026

Newjackoff24 said:
I've decided to cancel my trip, refund the airline tickets and return the burner phone. I'll continue to focus on our sexual relationship.

update: I read her the infidelity erotic story this week and wow. The background is that some time ago I wrote her one about a childhood friend of hers from her home. They develop a friendship and it goes too far. He takes charge. Sucks her breasts, she gives him a lap dance orgasm a few weeks before returning to college (and me). Well we read it together and she liked it. She actually said it was realistic (what!??). I was happy my Catholic wife enjoyed it.

The second one we read this week: this same guy finds her on social media 25 years later. Innocent texts. Then phone calls. He's a well to do businessman now. Comes to our house, while I'm on a business trip. His cock is bigger than mine, pleasantly thick too. She's soaked before he arrives. French kissing, her moaning, begging for his cum, riding him, laughing, dirty talk, him sucking her tits while she calls his name.

So I literally read this smut to my church wife while giving her an erotic massage. My hands on her as this guy's hands are on her in the story.

Wouldn't you know but my wife rubbed her clit the whole time as I'm reading this, the male character is saying he wants her "married pussy", I have her telling him she loves the scent of his cum on her breasts, praising him for his ability to pleasure her, she is watching his circumcised cock disappear and reappear in her pussy...and my wife is literally having orgasms as I'm reading all this to her. After it was done, she rode me and we both came, she giggles and said she would sleep well tonight.

This is the kind of fun I'm looking for so I'll continue to nurture that. And we will be in the front row in church on Sunday. Thanks to all for the advice.

You know you’re married so you’re allowed to have sex with each other right ?

Muchadoaboutnothing · Jul 12, 2026

mydarkvanessa said:
You should start offering paid sexting sessions. You’re a decent writer.

I went to catholic school. Trust me, some of those people are the horniest.

Sex knows no bounds of religion
theres a new show on Disney plus about a priest and a nun who have an erotic relationship and it includes whipping eachother I wish I was kidding. Maybe this is something to watch together in between massage’s and writing school girl notes

Muchadoaboutnothing · Jul 12, 2026

richaceg said:
If she can go overseas on your anniversary...I hate to break it to you but that marriage is over....you can still try to save it who knows....but treat yourself once in a while...your mind and body needs it.

25 years is way longer than many will ever see in any sort of relationship. My dad and I haven’t even maintained contact for longer than a few months. That’s blood relations.
if she wants alone time and it’s not done out of anger and haste and punishment then why should I be angry. I can also then plan to do something either at the same time or other time depending on when I can get time off. Maybe she went at that time because say she’s a teacher and their anniversary falls over summer and it’s a coincidence

Muchadoaboutnothing · Jul 12, 2026

Newjackoff24 said:
I'm writing her an erotic story where another man sexually satisfies her. That's going to have to suffice, ha.

My friend has been in a cuck relationship with his partner for 9 years now. Maybe this is your thing.

Muchadoaboutnothing · Jul 12, 2026

Newjackoff24 said:
She's very religious. Very. The fact that we have done role play, she's jerked me off to pics of Sunny Leoni (my word that was fun!) and is receptive to me writing a story where another guy is literally fucking her is significant...but I have to be careful not to overstep. But yes, I would love to hire an escort...to fuck her. I know my dick would be stiff watching her get a good pounding and cum shot by a handsome stud.

I actually told her about 3 months ago that I made some AI pics of her getting fucked but she was concerned about online privacy (even though it was on my computer). Point is, I'm trying to cross that mental barrier and she's giving good signals. Right now I'll have to be satisfied writing about it and seeing if I can get her sexually aroused while reading it to her. I plan to have my hand down her panties while I read it so....good chance she's receptive!

We were supposed to do this story tonight but got derailed talking about kids. She's all upset about something so I'm going to delay it until tomorrow night so she's focused. Wasted a Viagra, dang it, ha.

maybe she feels like you keep brinign up this fantasy of other men fucking her is a trap. Because trust me jealousy and some people starts this way and they created it and now they can’t get the image out. Or they suggest it and their partner finally gives in after years of being pressured and now they’re off to the races and the insirgator can’t pull them back into the relationship. Or my friend who now have this routine of hate jerking off to videos of his ex fucking men he orchestrated to fuck He even suggested they do only fans and porn hug and now he’s just forever watching her having sex with other men and he just jerks off on his kitchen counter lol. I don’t know why he shared all of this with me

Muchadoaboutnothing · Jul 12, 2026

Newjackoff24 said:
You are correct, I mean 20 years ago I confessed my porn habit to her and there were lots of tears from her and prayers.

I then did it again 2 years ago (only unapologetically and more of an invite and challenge to our restrictive way of thinking) and that led us to a vacation months later and her laughing and giggling as she saw me spurting cum over pics of topless porn stars. We had a great vacation. Granted, since that time she has cooled towards me using nude pics (we have done more lingerie themed ladies and sexy videos) but day to day there is zero judgment from her. We sit in church and pray together at home and do devotions and none of this comes up as a problem. Nor should it. Her only concern that I not go back to jacking off to porn stars alone by myself and I'm happy to comply with those guidelines. And then we have done some role play in addition to me writing erotic stories.

The problem that I see with me going for the Toronto experience is that I essentially prove any of her underlying religious fears (assuming she has them) as correct. In other words: Here I am the last two years building the case for our journey into erotica and fantasy as harmless and also actually healthy... but then it also leads me to getting off to pretty ladies at Club Dynasty and going to a sex club? I don't think I can do two things at once.

If she did a 180, I think all bets are off and I buy a burner phone, download life 360, start researching best spas, and wait for the next business trip.

You sound like me in a toxic relationship. I assume they are doing something so I always plan my way of coping which is to do something along the lines of emotionak cheating or full physical cheating “just this time because they are too”. I spend hours gathering “evidence” just in case they want to fight and it also helps to justify my actions anyways in the interim. not great and creates so much stress for myself that proper communication would avoid. Oh, The stories we tell

Newjackoff24 · Jul 12, 2026

mydarkvanessa said:
You should start offering paid sexting sessions. You’re a decent writer.

I went to catholic school. Trust me, some of those people are the horniest.

ha, thank you. I would like to write about our continued journey. I wonder how many other people have similar struggles. I value our faith but it's a shame we allow it to restrict pleasure.

I wrote her a thank you text the next am. I just wanted to sort of memorialize the evening and let her know it's not a one and done. Oh, I also audio recorded that night - my reading and her moaning and then us fucking. Very delicious.

Here is my text:

I just wanted to say thank you, because I really enjoyed last night, all of it. I slept well, that's for sure. I enjoyed hearing the words coming out my mouth, knowing that you were listening, the sight of your pretty smile at times fading into focused pleasure, watching you touch and pleasure yourself as we worked together, and your many grateful moans. I hoped you would enjoy yourself and your enthusiastic reception and the feel of your body gave me plenty to enjoy, as well. I can say there's definitely new ideas (and some similar ideas), stories and different chapters in me, and I hope we can continue to explore them together as we did last night.

And her response:

Good Morning, It was fun and pleasurable.I did sleep well too. I’m glad you had a good time too. Looking forward to more intimate times together

Yes!! I think we will do another role play session. I'll also write another story just about us. Maybe we meet as strangers in a foreign country, she dresses very provocatively and we have a one night stand of very messy sex. Very unCatholic. After that I want to do a story about us accidentally booking a sex cruise...and her "friend" is there. It will provide another opportunity for them to fuck but this time I get to watch and learn from this pro as I fuck his hot girlfriend and my wife watches some of my kinks play out.

Newjackoff24 · Jul 12, 2026

Muchadoaboutnothing said:
My friend has been in a cuck relationship with his partner for 9 years now. Maybe this is your thing.

I actually told her this about 9 months ago. Believe me, I was nervous. But I told a lie to relay the truth. I told her I was doing our finances and investments and reviewing our Will in the event something happens to me and that night I had a dream she was remarried. I said I was watching her and her new husband fucking and I woke up soaked from a wet dream. You should have seen her face, ha. But there was no condemnation.

The thing is this. I have 25 years of her viewing me as a great father and husband backing me up. She knows I'm safe. I've always been the protector and provider and that hasn't changed. And why would it? I work, love on her, and continue to be responsible. That's not going to change just because we go into a journey of erotic exploration together.

And that's where I'm keeping it...as fantasy. If I came out months ago and said "hey can you fuck another guy?" It would have seriously blown up in my face. I think small steps is a win for both of us based on her reception to the story and hopefully it sparks questions and conversations with her outside the bedroom.

Newjackoff24 · Jul 12, 2026

Muchadoaboutnothing said:
maybe she feels like you keep brinign up this fantasy of other men fucking her is a trap. Because trust me jealousy and some people starts this way and they created it and now they can’t get the image out. Or they suggest it and their partner finally gives in after years of being pressured and now they’re off to the races and the insirgator can’t pull them back into the relationship. Or my friend who now have this routine of hate jerking off to videos of his ex fucking men he orchestrated to fuck He even suggested they do only fans and porn hug and now he’s just forever watching her having sex with other men and he just jerks off on his kitchen counter lol. I don’t know why he shared all of this with me

it's human nature to look at other people and have fantasies. I say we just confess it to our spouses and have fun with it.

Here is a cuck-ish type fantasy that Catholics can't really condemn: If I passed away, I would want her to get remarried. I have told her that. I would want her to be happy. And Catholics would support that.

But another man would pleasuring and fucking my wife. And that first night (and many others) you KNOW this Catholic lady would be wet with anticipation at the thought of another man's cock about to load her up with his own cum. And I would just be a forgotten memory in those times. As she is moaning his name.

So why not enjoy it all now? Why is it Christian for my wife to moan as another man's 7 inch cock shoots loads of cum in her married pussy when I'm gone...but I can't enjoy the fantasy of that now?

I think it's way more healthy to discuss these fantasies openly than hide them. I feel much closer to her with her knowing exactly who I am than repressing it and having a secret outlet.

But I agree with you that some men have this cuck fantasy and realize they can't handle it if and when it actually materializes into reality. I honestly don't have much sympathy for them. FAFO.

Newjackoff24 · Jul 12, 2026

Muchadoaboutnothing said:
You sound like me in a toxic relationship. I assume they are doing something so I always plan my way of coping which is to do something along the lines of emotionak cheating or full physical cheating “just this time because they are too”. I spend hours gathering “evidence” just in case they want to fight and it also helps to justify my actions anyways in the interim. not great and creates so much stress for myself that proper communication would avoid. Oh, The stories we tell

I absolutely kept a list of slights when I was feeling low. But I did eventually share them with her. I think that important. One was what I refer to as her "emotional fucking" of pastors and taking the pastors advice rather than mine for starters. You know I think I actually said this to her: " I would rather you fuck a guy and walk away happy than constantly take his advice over mine". Mic drop

And her willingness to make time for church activities but not me, dressing up for church and work and nearly always dressing down for me...all that.

I think the porn confession helped move the needle. She could not claim I was failing as a husband, parent and protector and provider. I wasn't. I knew it and she knew it. The church tells so many lies about porn destroying marriage. Sure gambling and alcohol can destroy a marriage, and so can porn, but not every time. That's a fake fear. But it was her priorities, not porn that were causing problems, and me just finally saying "I will continue to enjoy this hobby if I have to" really shed a new light on it for her about priorities in and out of our bedroom.

Daveboy · Jul 12, 2026

You have a good marriage, but you prioritize sex too much. My advice to you is to stay married and see an escort every week, and jerk off 2x a week.

Newjackoff24 · Jul 12, 2026

Daveboy said:
You have a good marriage, but you prioritize sex too much. My advice to you is to stay married and see an escort every week, and jerk off 2x a week.

Thanks. I like to jerk off, although I have stayed away from porn. As much as I enjoy it. But I've been pretty good abstaining from porn the last six months.

Sometimes I will listen to audio recordings of my wife when I introduced a seven inch dildo to her pussy and I will cum. But sometimes I like to just save the cum for her. One time I stood at the end of our bed and she was lying down, I had my cock so close to her face and just masturbated nice and hard. I shot so much fuck cream over her breasts and neck, soaked her real good, felt like I was pent up so made it even nicer. I told her I like it when she watches me jacking off.

xix · Jul 12, 2026

@Newjackoff24 I would suggest you visit a 12 step program Sex anonymous and see what you get out of that.

It seems like a Genie Bottle syndrome - instant gratification but with consequences to follow.
The "Genie in a Bottle" syndrome, as described in literature and [psychological contexts], refers to a phenomenon where unleashing a powerful, complex, or irreversible force—such as sensitive information, an AI tool, or a project scope—makes it extraordinarily difficult to "stuff the genie back into the bottle" once it's out

All the best.

Newjackoff24 · Jul 12, 2026

xix said:
@Newjackoff24 I would suggest you visit a 12 step program Sex anonymous and see what you get out of that.

It seems like a Genie Bottle syndrome - instant gratification but with consequences to follow.
The "Genie in a Bottle" syndrome, as described in literature and [psychological contexts], refers to a phenomenon where unleashing a powerful, complex, or irreversible force—such as sensitive information, an AI tool, or a project scope—makes it extraordinarily difficult to "stuff the genie back into the bottle" once it's out

All the best.

Oh the genie is definitely out of the bottle.

I enjoy regular sex. In fact, that's most of our sex. And she enjoys it.

What I do with her and erotica is maybe once a month or every two months. We have sex more than that and it's pleasurable. I just don't believe in picking one way to gratify. We do both. Or three. Or more.

So if that's the genie complex I will just say thank you for finally appearing. I've been rubbing for some time now.

forest · Jul 12, 2026

SlitherBeth said:
This is exactly what I would have suggested! I know you want more sexual novelty, and it sounds like your wife is very good, giving and game. Oftentimes womens' sex drives are dependant on not being distracted from sex by other worries, preoccupations and insecurities, so making her feel supported and sexy tend to raise the frequency of her being in the mood.

The issue of distractions is discussed in the book Come as You Are by Emily Nagoski where she explains women have sex accelerators and brakes. Despite how much someone tries to turn on a woman, if there are major brakes going on the car isn't going anywhere. It seems from what the OP has written, his wife's strong religious beliefs, concerns about the kids, and other life issues are holding her back so it is that much more difficult to press the pedal to get her moving.

Based on the book's recommendations, try to address some of the brakes before focusing on the accelerators. The book is pretty dry in that it does not describe any sexual techniques but I believe for anybody in a long term relationship, it explains the psychological issues that many women have that men just don't know about. Regardless of what the OP does, I hope he and his wife find something that makes both of them happy.

signo_log · Jul 12, 2026

Newjackoff24 said:
I've decided to cancel my trip, refund the airline tickets and return the burner phone. I'll continue to focus on our sexual relationship.

update: I read her the infidelity erotic story this week and wow. The background is that some time ago I wrote her one about a childhood friend of hers from her home. They develop a friendship and it goes too far. He takes charge. Sucks her breasts, she gives him a lap dance orgasm a few weeks before returning to college (and me). Well we read it together and she liked it. She actually said it was realistic (what!??). I was happy my Catholic wife enjoyed it.

The second one we read this week: this same guy finds her on social media 25 years later. Innocent texts. Then phone calls. He's a well to do businessman now. Comes to our house, while I'm on a business trip. His cock is bigger than mine, pleasantly thick too. She's soaked before he arrives. French kissing, her moaning, begging for his cum, riding him, laughing, dirty talk, him sucking her tits while she calls his name.

So I literally read this smut to my church wife while giving her an erotic massage. My hands on her as this guy's hands are on her in the story.

Wouldn't you know but my wife rubbed her clit the whole time as I'm reading this, the male character is saying he wants her "married pussy", I have her telling him she loves the scent of his cum on her breasts, praising him for his ability to pleasure her, she is watching his circumcised cock disappear and reappear in her pussy...and my wife is literally having orgasms as I'm reading all this to her. After it was done, she rode me and we both came, she giggles and said she would sleep well tonight.

This is the kind of fun I'm looking for so I'll continue to nurture that. And we will be in the front row in church on Sunday. Thanks to all for the advice.

Good to hear that you're able to start working on the sexual relationship with your wife and save the marriage.

But do you mind sharing who was on your to-do list in Toronto? What was the itinerary?

Newjackoff24 · Jul 12, 2026

signo_log said:
Good to hear that you're able to start working on the sexual relationship with your wife and save the marriage.

But do you mind sharing who was on your to-do list in Toronto? What was the itinerary?

Club Dynasty had some ladies on there that I was eyeing. Emma, Roxanne, Melina, Demi, Gia, Veronika, Carmen. Nice facilities.

Flirt: Adriene, Emily, Leena.

For me, it would be no kissing and topless only. I would ask about fetish play and by that I simply mean I would have shown my masseuse pics of my wife (clothed), recounted my sad journey, and played some audio of my wife cumming when I pounded her pussy with a dildo, and after a nice massage just jerk off while staring at my pretty masseuse and then enjoy them cleaning me up. In my head, I would do three spa girls in one day, am at opening. 2 or 3 pm and then a very late evening. Not sure if that is realistic? I don't care about the money, just looking for the experience in a safe setting.

Also a visit to Club M4, assuming I'm not exhausted, to get a lay of the land. Next day I would do another spa gal and save the rest of my cum for a Thu Bukkake, assuming I could join in. Or I would just watch.

Departure day I would visit another spa for one last load.

I had a hotel central to the airport and spas. Burner phone and Life 360 ready to go. Already prepped her for a late arrival on Friday (even though conf already ended).

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