The Leafs and the fans didn't get rid of him; it's the hate from the Toronto media (The Toronto Sun, to be exact), and they blame the fans.
Marner Isn't Performing In The Playoffs For Vegas
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The Leafs and the fans didn't get rid of him; it's the hate from the Toronto media (The Toronto Sun, to be exact), and they blame the fans.
I know the media became critical but I saw way more vitriol coming from fans, case in point, this board.
He left because he knew this organization was toxic and on a downward trend, but most of all because Leafs wanted to free up cap space and didn't want to re-sign him.
Leafs chose to go in the Nylander direction and I would bet that MLSE instigated media spin to ease this into place.
The Portuguese Apollo weighs in on the most horrendous management that any professional sports franchise can suffer with. If Loafs management were a geographical location it would be The Black Hole of Calcutta.
I always laugh whenever someone brags about a player performing poorly after a few games versus all games played.
Marner is a very good player who is currently the playoffs leading scorer. He consistently ranks among the annual regular season scoring leaders and was selected for Team Canada because of this. Like every former Leaf he’s more happy outside of the hectic Toronto hockey market!
Marner is a very good player who is currently the playoffs leading scorer. He consistently ranks among the annual regular season scoring leaders and was selected for Team Canada because of this. Like every former Leaf he’s more happy outside of the hectic Toronto hockey market!
This has got to be the worst thread call ever. Ever!
Marner, Matthews, Tavares. and Nylander as a group didn't perform for the Leafs. And that is the main reason they never made it to the Conference or Stanley Cup Finals. Champions need their core players to do well, and they simply did not. Compare the core 4 numbers to other top forwards in playoffs. Even if they were somewhat overpaid, the rest of the Leafs supporting cast performed OK or did enough in some of those 10 (9?) years of playoff chances.
Who knows if Marner could have did the same in Toronto what he is doing now. But he clearly didn't
Who knows if Marner could have did the same in Toronto what he is doing now. But he clearly didn't
I knew you would come back.
wtf are you talking about. He had 3 assists in 4 games. Similar rate he was scoring at with the Leafs so my assessment was bang on. He's not going to light up Colorado.
He didn't beat Colorado. The team beat Colorado. That and Maker missed the first 2 games and played the other 2 injured.
In case you weren't aware he plays defense. One of 6 so it's a big hit. Unlike with forwards you're one of 12.
Shoddy goaltending by Colorado also.
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I knew that you would keep moving the goal posts. So predictable. This is the first time I've ever heard criticism of the points leader in the SC playoffs because of their level of competition. Only in Toronto.
Marner points per game in the playoffs for the Leafs 0.9
Marner points per game in the playoffs vs Anaheim 1.8333 (5 goals 6 assists)
Marner points per game in the playoffs vs Colorado 0.75 (0 goals 3 assists)
Marner clearly lit up Anaheim who had the 4th worse goals against in the regular season.
Marner clearly did not light up Colorado, even without Makar. Scoring at a rate lower than when he was with the Leafs.
Difference is the rest of the Vegas team is far superior to the rest of the Leafs team. That includes goaltending.
Has Marner ever played against the 4th worse defensive team in the League when he was with the Leafs in the playoffs.
If Marner wins the Conn Smythe he can thank Anaheim. Conveniently Gudas was injured.
Marner was NOT the MVP in their win over Colorado.
Marner in the 7 game series vs Florida in 2025 second round had 1 goal and 7 assists for 8 points.
That's 1.14 points per game, better than what he did against Colorado.
The difference was Leafs couldn't stop Florida from scoring buckets full of goals.
Florida was also fully healthy whereas Leafs starter Stolarz was injured in game 1.
Marner points per game in the playoffs vs Anaheim 1.8333 (5 goals 6 assists)
Marner points per game in the playoffs vs Colorado 0.75 (0 goals 3 assists)
Marner clearly lit up Anaheim who had the 4th worse goals against in the regular season.
Marner clearly did not light up Colorado, even without Makar. Scoring at a rate lower than when he was with the Leafs.
Difference is the rest of the Vegas team is far superior to the rest of the Leafs team. That includes goaltending.
Has Marner ever played against the 4th worse defensive team in the League when he was with the Leafs in the playoffs.
If Marner wins the Conn Smythe he can thank Anaheim. Conveniently Gudas was injured.
Marner was NOT the MVP in their win over Colorado.
Marner in the 7 game series vs Florida in 2025 second round had 1 goal and 7 assists for 8 points.
That's 1.14 points per game, better than what he did against Colorado.
The difference was Leafs couldn't stop Florida from scoring buckets full of goals.
Florida was also fully healthy whereas Leafs starter Stolarz was injured in game 1.
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We'll see how Marner does when he goes up against the fast skating and tough forechecking Canes. The Canes are a very good puck possession team, if Marner can't touch the puck he's ineffective.
Florida was also a very good forechecking team. Vegas is a gritty team. Even with Marner on it. Leafs not so much.
That helps Marner. Florida in their Cup heyday was the epitome of grit to the point of sneaky dirty. Vegas though is not sneaky dirty.
I always thought of Carolina as a soft team. Similar to Florida before they traded Huberdeau. They look tougher this year even with 2 or 3 smallish forwards. They play hard though with no fear.
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Yet, I still don't see Marner in after the faceoff scrums giving facewashes, as Florida did to him and the Leafs.
