War with Iran

Klatuu

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How crazy these new torpedoes. This torpedo blew up under the Iranian ship without touching it. It lifted the ship right up in the air.

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You will be paying more due to permanent tariffs, possible surcharges, and scarcity due to supplying other nations.
Per Google AI on Canadian grain: When including rail transport from inland (e.g., ~$50–$60/tonne) and port fees, total logistics costs to Asian markets via Vancouver can exceed $100 CAD per tonne.

I don't know all the economics of the global grain markets, but I know its expensive to ship almost all commodities overseas.
 

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Per Google AI on Canadian grain: When including rail transport from inland (e.g., ~$50–$60/tonne) and port fees, total logistics costs to Asian markets via Vancouver can exceed $100 CAD per tonne.

I don't know all the economics of the global grain markets, but I know its expensive to ship almost all commodities overseas. So now Canada's going to be offering deals to foreign buyers.
 

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Iran built the most comprehensive civilian surveillance network in the Middle East. Cameras on every street. Facial recognition at universities. License plate readers that automatically fined women for removing their hijab in their own cars. A mobile app called Nazer that let citizens report uncovered women. Drones at beaches. The infrastructure that killed Mahsa Amini in September 2022 and crushed the Woman, Life, Freedom uprising that followed.

Israel hacked nearly all of it. According to the Financial Times, citing two people familiar with the matter, nearly all of Tehran’s traffic cameras had been compromised for years. The footage was encrypted and transmitted to servers in Tel Aviv and southern Israel. One camera near Pasteur Street proved especially valuable. It was angled in such a way that Israeli analysts could see where members of Khamenei’s security detail parked their personal cars.

Through that single camera angle, Israeli intelligence built files on the bodyguards’ home addresses, work schedules, commuting routes, and which senior officials they were assigned to protect. Unit 8200 used algorithms to process billions of data points into what intelligence officers call a “pattern of life.” A person familiar with the process described it as “an assembly line with a single product: targets.” “We knew Tehran like we know Jerusalem,” an Israeli intelligence official told the Financial Times. “And when you know a place as well as you know the street you grew up on, you notice a single thing that’s out of place.”

On February 28, when intelligence confirmed Khamenei would attend a morning meeting at his compound near Pasteur Street, the operation entered its final phase. Israel disrupted approximately 12 cellular antennas in the area, causing phones to appear “busy” when dialed.

Khamenei’s security detail could not receive warnings. Israeli aircraft fired 30 precision munitions. The strike was carried out in daylight for tactical surprise. Former Mossad official Sima Shine told the Financial Times that Israel’s strategic focus on Iran dates to a 2001 directive from Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Twenty-five years of patient intelligence collection culminated in a single Saturday morning. Here is the part that should stay with you. The cameras Israel hacked were not military installations. They were the regime’s domestic surveillance apparatus. The same cameras that tracked women who removed their hijab. The same system that sent automated text messages to women in Isfahan accusing them of “improper veiling.” The same infrastructure the Guidance Patrol used to build digital dossiers on Iranian women and girls for the crime of showing their hair. Israel turned the tools of the morality police into the tools of the regime’s destruction.

There is a viral claim that after the assassination, Mossad wiped the morality police’s databases on Iranian women. No Tier 1, 2, or 3 source confirms this. It traces to a single unverified social media post. I will not present it as fact. But the verified reality is extraordinary enough.

The regime built a surveillance state to control its own women. A foreign intelligence service co-opted that state to kill the man who ordered it built. The cameras that watched women became the cameras that watched Khamenei die. That is poetic justice written in code. https://open.substack.com/pub/shanakaans
 
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Per Google AI on Canadian grain: When including rail transport from inland (e.g., ~$50–$60/tonne) and port fees, total logistics costs to Asian markets via Vancouver can exceed $100 CAD per tonne.

I don't know all the economics of the global grain markets, but I know its expensive to ship almost all commodities overseas.
So what? If they want it, they will buy it. And pay for it. And volume will cheapen it.
 

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Iran hit a Bahrain's refinery. Bomb one of Iran's oil field deposits or refinery, each time Iran hits a refiner or a tanker hit one of their oil deposits. They'll eventually stop with that.
 

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Iran hit a Bahrain's refinery. Bomb one of Iran's oil field deposits or refinery, each time Iran hits a refiner or a tanker hit one of their oil deposits. They'll eventually stop with that.

Are you sure you want all of the oil fields and refineries wiped
out? That will be great for oil producers in Alberta. Canadians
particular those in the east will suffer. Ontario is an importer of
crude oil from the Middle East.
 

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Iran built the most comprehensive civilian surveillance network in the Middle East. Cameras on every street. Facial recognition at universities. License plate readers that automatically fined women for removing their hijab in their own cars. A mobile app called Nazer that let citizens report uncovered women. Drones at beaches. The infrastructure that killed Mahsa Amini in September 2022 and crushed the Woman, Life, Freedom uprising that followed.

Israel hacked nearly all of it. According to the Financial Times, citing two people familiar with the matter, nearly all of Tehran’s traffic cameras had been compromised for years. The footage was encrypted and transmitted to servers in Tel Aviv and southern Israel. One camera near Pasteur Street proved especially valuable. It was angled in such a way that Israeli analysts could see where members of Khamenei’s security detail parked their personal cars.

Through that single camera angle, Israeli intelligence built files on the bodyguards’ home addresses, work schedules, commuting routes, and which senior officials they were assigned to protect. Unit 8200 used algorithms to process billions of data points into what intelligence officers call a “pattern of life.” A person familiar with the process described it as “an assembly line with a single product: targets.” “We knew Tehran like we know Jerusalem,” an Israeli intelligence official told the Financial Times. “And when you know a place as well as you know the street you grew up on, you notice a single thing that’s out of place.”

On February 28, when intelligence confirmed Khamenei would attend a morning meeting at his compound near Pasteur Street, the operation entered its final phase. Israel disrupted approximately 12 cellular antennas in the area, causing phones to appear “busy” when dialed.

Khamenei’s security detail could not receive warnings. Israeli aircraft fired 30 precision munitions. The strike was carried out in daylight for tactical surprise. Former Mossad official Sima Shine told the Financial Times that Israel’s strategic focus on Iran dates to a 2001 directive from Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Twenty-five years of patient intelligence collection culminated in a single Saturday morning. Here is the part that should stay with you. The cameras Israel hacked were not military installations. They were the regime’s domestic surveillance apparatus. The same cameras that tracked women who removed their hijab. The same system that sent automated text messages to women in Isfahan accusing them of “improper veiling.” The same infrastructure the Guidance Patrol used to build digital dossiers on Iranian women and girls for the crime of showing their hair. Israel turned the tools of the morality police into the tools of the regime’s destruction.

There is a viral claim that after the assassination, Mossad wiped the morality police’s databases on Iranian women. No Tier 1, 2, or 3 source confirms this. It traces to a single unverified social media post. I will not present it as fact. But the verified reality is extraordinary enough.

The regime built a surveillance state to control its own women. A foreign intelligence service co-opted that state to kill the man who ordered it built. The cameras that watched women became the cameras that watched Khamenei die. That is poetic justice written in code. https://open.substack.com/pub/shanakaans
Hard not to laugh at this Hasbara. If it were true, Oct 7 would never have happened.
 
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Are you sure you want all of the oil fields and refineries wiped
out? That will be great for oil producers in Alberta. Canadians
particular those in the east will suffer. Ontario is an importer of
crude oil from the Middle East.
I don't want them all wiped out. We were importing most of our oil from the US and Venezuela believe it or not, I was chatting with agents of Petro Canada, I don't know if it changed since the Venezuela thing.
 

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Iran built the most comprehensive civilian surveillance network in the Middle East. Cameras on every street. Facial recognition at universities. License plate readers that automatically fined women for removing their hijab in their own cars. A mobile app called Nazer that let citizens report uncovered women. Drones at beaches. The infrastructure that killed Mahsa Amini in September 2022 and crushed the Woman, Life, Freedom uprising that followed.

Israel hacked nearly all of it. According to the Financial Times, citing two people familiar with the matter, nearly all of Tehran’s traffic cameras had been compromised for years. The footage was encrypted and transmitted to servers in Tel Aviv and southern Israel. One camera near Pasteur Street proved especially valuable. It was angled in such a way that Israeli analysts could see where members of Khamenei’s security detail parked their personal cars.

Through that single camera angle, Israeli intelligence built files on the bodyguards’ home addresses, work schedules, commuting routes, and which senior officials they were assigned to protect. Unit 8200 used algorithms to process billions of data points into what intelligence officers call a “pattern of life.” A person familiar with the process described it as “an assembly line with a single product: targets.” “We knew Tehran like we know Jerusalem,” an Israeli intelligence official told the Financial Times. “And when you know a place as well as you know the street you grew up on, you notice a single thing that’s out of place.”

On February 28, when intelligence confirmed Khamenei would attend a morning meeting at his compound near Pasteur Street, the operation entered its final phase. Israel disrupted approximately 12 cellular antennas in the area, causing phones to appear “busy” when dialed.

Khamenei’s security detail could not receive warnings. Israeli aircraft fired 30 precision munitions. The strike was carried out in daylight for tactical surprise. Former Mossad official Sima Shine told the Financial Times that Israel’s strategic focus on Iran dates to a 2001 directive from Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Twenty-five years of patient intelligence collection culminated in a single Saturday morning. Here is the part that should stay with you. The cameras Israel hacked were not military installations. They were the regime’s domestic surveillance apparatus. The same cameras that tracked women who removed their hijab. The same system that sent automated text messages to women in Isfahan accusing them of “improper veiling.” The same infrastructure the Guidance Patrol used to build digital dossiers on Iranian women and girls for the crime of showing their hair. Israel turned the tools of the morality police into the tools of the regime’s destruction.

There is a viral claim that after the assassination, Mossad wiped the morality police’s databases on Iranian women. No Tier 1, 2, or 3 source confirms this. It traces to a single unverified social media post. I will not present it as fact. But the verified reality is extraordinary enough.

The regime built a surveillance state to control its own women. A foreign intelligence service co-opted that state to kill the man who ordered it built. The cameras that watched women became the cameras that watched Khamenei die. That is poetic justice written in code. https://open.substack.com/pub/shanakaans
Israelis are very good for that kind of stuff. The beeper story will go down in history. Brilliant.
 
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I think Iran knows Trump responds to the markets. So...do shit that will drive down stocks etc.
 

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Iran built the most comprehensive civilian surveillance network in the Middle East. Cameras on every street. Facial recognition at universities. License plate readers that automatically fined women for removing their hijab in their own cars. A mobile app called Nazer that let citizens report uncovered women. Drones at beaches. The infrastructure that killed Mahsa Amini in September 2022 and crushed the Woman, Life, Freedom uprising that followed.

Israel hacked nearly all of it. According to the Financial Times, citing two people familiar with the matter, nearly all of Tehran’s traffic cameras had been compromised for years. The footage was encrypted and transmitted to servers in Tel Aviv and southern Israel. One camera near Pasteur Street proved especially valuable. It was angled in such a way that Israeli analysts could see where members of Khamenei’s security detail parked their personal cars.

Through that single camera angle, Israeli intelligence built files on the bodyguards’ home addresses, work schedules, commuting routes, and which senior officials they were assigned to protect. Unit 8200 used algorithms to process billions of data points into what intelligence officers call a “pattern of life.” A person familiar with the process described it as “an assembly line with a single product: targets.” “We knew Tehran like we know Jerusalem,” an Israeli intelligence official told the Financial Times. “And when you know a place as well as you know the street you grew up on, you notice a single thing that’s out of place.”

On February 28, when intelligence confirmed Khamenei would attend a morning meeting at his compound near Pasteur Street, the operation entered its final phase. Israel disrupted approximately 12 cellular antennas in the area, causing phones to appear “busy” when dialed.

Khamenei’s security detail could not receive warnings. Israeli aircraft fired 30 precision munitions. The strike was carried out in daylight for tactical surprise. Former Mossad official Sima Shine told the Financial Times that Israel’s strategic focus on Iran dates to a 2001 directive from Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Twenty-five years of patient intelligence collection culminated in a single Saturday morning. Here is the part that should stay with you. The cameras Israel hacked were not military installations. They were the regime’s domestic surveillance apparatus. The same cameras that tracked women who removed their hijab. The same system that sent automated text messages to women in Isfahan accusing them of “improper veiling.” The same infrastructure the Guidance Patrol used to build digital dossiers on Iranian women and girls for the crime of showing their hair. Israel turned the tools of the morality police into the tools of the regime’s destruction.

There is a viral claim that after the assassination, Mossad wiped the morality police’s databases on Iranian women. No Tier 1, 2, or 3 source confirms this. It traces to a single unverified social media post. I will not present it as fact. But the verified reality is extraordinary enough.

The regime built a surveillance state to control its own women. A foreign intelligence service co-opted that state to kill the man who ordered it built. The cameras that watched women became the cameras that watched Khamenei die. That is poetic justice written in code. https://open.substack.com/pub/shanakaans
Most of the state surveillance infrastructure was supplied by the CCP.

Companies like beidou, huawei, hikvision have been working with irgc for over a decade.

Great report by an international human rights organization - article 19 below.


Chinese netizens have been cleverly mocking the ayatollah on weibo and wondering if Xi gave him a Huawei phone like he did to Maduro
 

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Iran's new Supreme Leader spent months in private UK hospitals


Mojtaba Khamenei, the favorite to become the new Supreme Leader of Iran, was repeatedly treated for impotency at hospitals in the UK, according to a secret US intelligence document.

On Tuesday, Mojtaba, 56, was reportedly preparing to be named successor to his father Ali Khamenei, who was killed along with 48 other senior regime officials in America and Israel's ongoing Operation Epic Fury.



According to a classified briefing sent by the State Department to the US Embassy in London in 2008, and later released by WikiLeaks, Mojtaba was placed under pressure by his family to produce heirs.

It required four visits, including a final stay lasting two months, and he eventually had a son who was named 'Ali' after the baby's grandfather, the then Supreme Leader.

According to US intelligence, Mojtaba married relatively late in life in 2004. That was 'reportedly due to an impotency problem treated and eventually resolved during three extended visits to the UK.'

Those visits were to the Wellington and Cromwell Hospitals in London., according to the intelligence document



The shadow successor
'Mojtaba was expected by his family to produce children quickly, but needed a fourth visit to the UK for medical treatment,' it said.

'After a stay of two months, his wife became pregnant. Back in Iran, a healthy boy was born, named Ali for his paternal grandfather.'

The intelligence also detailed how 'within the Supreme Leader's office, Mojtaba works in his father's shadow,' and that he traveled with him in Iran and had a' fair degree of control over access to his father.'



He was 'widely viewed within the regime as a capable and forceful leader and manager who may someday succeed to at least a share of national leadership. His father may also see him in that light.'

He was said to be 'close to and well briefed by' the senior leaders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)

'Ali Khamenei is reportedly seen by some within the Leader's Office as treating and consulting Mojtaba as he would an eventual successor to his responsibilities, rather than purely as an advisor,' the report said.



Iran's new Supreme Leader spent months in private UK hospitals
The wartime leader
However, Mojtaba was seen as weak in clerical terms.

'(He) is not expected ever to achieve by his own scholarship the status of "mujtahid," far less that of ayatollah,' the report said.

'Mojtaba reportedly is quite aware of his own limitations and does not appear to harbor an expectation of becoming sole Supreme Leader in his own right,' it went on.



However, in the wake of his father's death, Iran's Assembly of Experts, comprised of 88 clerics, has now reportedly elected him Supreme Leader, according to the Iran International TV network.

Clerics could announce the reclusive Mojtaba as successor as early as Wednesday morning, although some had reservations about putting him in danger of being targeted by the US and Israel, the New York Times reported.

The decision was reportedly made after the IRGC put strong pressure on the assembly.


Assembly elects Mojtaba after Qom HQ flattened succession by zoom
The meeting itself took place online after the venue in the city of Qom, where the assembly was due to convene, was bombed.

Mojtaba's selection had also been seen as unlikely because the regime has long criticized hereditary rule.

Indeed, his own father was against starting a dynasty.


Ali Khamenei, who was 86, had secretly named three potential successors before he died, none of whom was his son, the New York Times reported.

Those he did name were Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Eje’i, the head of the judiciary, his chief of staff Ali Asghar Hejazi, and Hassan Khomeini, the grandson of Iran's first Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini.

Mojtaba is Ali Khamenei's second son and has an older brother Mostafa, who is also a cleric.

In recent years Mojtaba had grown in his father's estimation and also became one of the wealthiest people in Iran.


The $3 billion shadow
He may be a billionaire and has huge wealth stored in banks in the United Arab Emirates, Syria, Venezuela, and Africa, along with around $300 million in gold and diamonds, and Swiss bank accounts, according to the Arab-language Alquds Alarabi newspaper.

In January he was reported to have moved $328 million to Dubai using cryptocurrency.


Much of his wealth reportedly came from taxes on oil sold to China and India, according to the report.

His investments around the world reportedly include a $40 million mansion on a street known as 'Billionaire's Row' in London.

In Iran, he is said to own a section of the upmarket Abbas Abad neighborhood in north-central Tehran, and vast swathes of land near the city of Mashhad.

He also reportedly has a private jet, a helicopter for urgent trips, a fleet of Mercedes vehicles, and horses.



Iran's new Supreme Leader spent months in private UK hospitals
Commander-in-chief
As Supreme Leader he will now be the commander-in-chief of the regime's armed forces and appoint the leaders of all military branches.

He will also have the final say on policy and choose the head of the judiciary,

Mojtaba was born in Mashhad in 1969 and later served in the Iran-Iraq war.


Studying theology in the city of Qom he was taught by a radical cleric known as the 'Crocodile Ayatollah'.

Ayatollah Muhammad Taqi Misbah Yazdi, who died in 2021, was a prominent hardliner who advocated for developing nuclear weapons and once said: 'The people are ignorant sheep.'

'Mojtaba rose to prominence in 2009 when he helped orchestrate the election fraud that gave President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a second term.'



Iran's new Supreme Leader spent months in private UK hospitals
The new leader’s role in crushing Iranian dissent
He also helped repress the Green Movement, the protests that emerged after that election.

'Mojtaba Khamenei also has a bleak human rights background,' according to the Atlantic Council.

'Mojtaba is extremely close to the leaders of the IRGC and also intimately knows the financial networks under the control of the Supreme Leader.'


'This has made some believe that Mojtaba has long been tapped to succeed his father, however awkward that would look in a country that experienced a bloody revolution to overturn two millennia of monarchical rule.'

In 2019 the US sanctioned him for 'representing the Supreme Leader in an official capacity despite never being elected or appointed to a government position aside from work in the office of his father.'

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Obama didn't do well in negotiating with Iran just sent usaid that went nowhere. Trump gave them an ultimatum..Iran has violated every UN mandate. Has violated any agreement including the ones they made with Obama....Trump didn't start this war...he's ending it.
Similar to George Bush who did "not start" the Iraq war. He was ending it using the richaceg logic...ROTFLMAO!!
Obama made that deal with Iran in collusion with the other P5 +1 nations, and part of it was to have the Iranian nuclear sites regularly inspected so that they kept their side of the agreement.
Then Trump tore up this deal and that is when Iran advanced their development of Nuclear weapons. Trump definitely started this war. He is a war monger who is breaking all sorts of regulations within the Constitution!!

 

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You again starting with that crazy idea that Canada discounts commodities to the U.S.
It's always been a global market.
The U.S. pays less than anyone else because the shipping is significantly less. That's how commodities are priced.
Canada is not close to any other country.

Honestly, I don't think you are awake.
Canada is at an economic inflection point. I'm afraid Canada's issues go far beyond trade deals fixing them.
Again, this sluggish economy goes back ten years. It goes deeper than trade.
trump has screwed america over.
He's asking for help with Netanyahu's war on Iran right after putting tariffs on everyone.
Now he wants help

The Hormuz is shut and that will crash global economies and cause mass suffering.

 
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