trump kidnaps Maduro to steal resources from Venezuela

richaceg

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See?
There you go taking the side of americans again.

Canada has stricter health rules on milk and pork.
You want shit, go eat it there.

you really have a lot to learn...you might not understand fair trades...it always changes...if one party feels it's not fair, they go back to the negotiation table and sort it out...why do you think Carney folded? He could've kept on fighting it but he knew there's some merit to Trumps claims...you need to reach an agreement to continue the relationship...which we still have...whether you like it or not...man you are one whiny dude...lol.
 
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you really have a lot to learn...you might not understand fair trades...it always changes...if one party feels it's not fair, they go back to the negotiation table and sort it out.
Right, so one side decides they don't like it and they go back with guns to take it all.
That's your idea of trade.

You keep arguing Germany was right to invade Poland.
 
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Right, so one side decides they don't like it and they go back with guns to take it all.
That's your idea of trade.

You keep arguing Germany was right to invade Poland.
what are you even talking about? I'm talkling about fair trade between Canada and US. If you're talking about Venezuela...they wanted Maduro out...no one can remove Maduro without the US...same way Gadaffi was removed by Obama...lol...you're dizzy.
 

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He's as legit a democratic president as your pedo hero.
So if China takes their guns out because they think america's president isn't legit, that's ok?
And if they decide that the trade deal is now unfair because of america they can also attack?

Trump was voted...Maduro lost but doesn't want to step down...lmao...you really all in with him huh? pathetic.
 
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I'm sure your post makes sense to you. Actually, friends and family ask me if I have heard of various political events for similar reasons to here. They want to try to believe they are doing something. Generally they also know I won't dismiss their concerns, but rather give them a different take on things that they saw on cable news. From there, we might continue the discussion.

It's possible your bias is that everyone who doesn't agree with all anti-Trump messaging has to be 100% MAGA. That of course is overly-simplistic. That's why I can actually have political discussions with friends and family.

I'm sure my friends and family have discussions amongst themselves. I would think that was perfectly normal. However, you might be projecting time spent on political forums to broad-based social groups. We talk far more about things like sports, movies, vacations, restaurants and family dynamics than we do politics.
That is fine if that is your take; you have the right to believe in your take.

Now, if you can please answer my question, which you conveniently ignored. I won't judge. I may accuse you of pretzelling, but that is as judgmental as it will be.

@WyattEarp, so do you agree with Miller that the US has the right to just take over Greenland?? Is this another wonderful Trump idea??

Go to the 5:40 mark to hear one of your government clowns once again threaten Greenland.

 
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what are you even talking about? I'm talkling about fair trade between Canada and US. If you're talking about Venezuela...they wanted Maduro out...no one can remove Maduro without the US...same way Gadaffi was removed by Obama...lol...you're dizzy.
trump had no right to kidnap Maduro.

Its all Wag the Dog to cover the senile pedo's Epstein problems.
 

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As part of the USMCA that we signed back in Trump's first term Canada committed to allowing the US dairy producers access to up to 3% of the Canadian market. We didn't allow that to happen. Canada is like Europe in many ways very protectionist. Case in point look at interprovincial trade barriers that still exist. Mainly to protect the weaker Atlantic provinces and of course Quebec.
On the flipside we do have legitimate gripes with the United States in some areas. Case in point the longstanding dispute over softwood lumber. But there is no doubt that overall Canada unfairly benefits from the trade relationship which is why Trump and his gang are upsetting the apple cart. They're sick and tired of getting shafted and being taken advantage of. Now I don't like some of the tactics he employed which ended up costing the CPC a minority gov't in the last election. He could have handled the dispute in a better manner and a bit more diplomatically.
Bottom line is this. Canada relies on the United States for about 70% of its total exports. The US relies on Canada for just 17% of theirs. Who's holding A-A and who's holding 7-7 in this scenario?
Let me just leave this here so you have the facts at your fingertips.





Under the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), the U.S. is allowed to export specific, limited quantities of various dairy products to Canada under tariff-rate quotas (TRQs), free of the otherwise high Canadian tariffs. These quotas are set in metric tons (MT) and increase annually by 1% for 13 years after the initial phase-in period, which ended in year six (2025).
The specific annual quota volumes (at year six levels, 2025) for key product categories are:
  • Fluid Milk: 50,000 MT
  • Cheese (all types & processing): 12,500 MT combined (6,250 MT each)
  • Cream: 10,500 MT
  • Skim Milk Powder: 7,500 MT
  • Butter & Cream Powder: 4,500 MT
  • Yogurt & Buttermilk: 4,135 MT
Exports that exceed these specified volumes are subject to high over-quota tariffs, which can range from over 200% to nearly 300% (e.g., ~298% for butter).
Overall, these TRQs were designed to give U.S. producers access to about 3.5% of Canada's domestic dairy market. The U.S. has not consistently filled all of its available quotas due to various administrative and market factors, leading to ongoing trade discussions.
 

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That is fine if that is your take; you have the right to believe in your take.
How bout I am there when I speak with my family and friends and you are not? Yeah, that's my take.

Now, if you can please answer my question, which you conveniently ignored. I won't judge. I may accuse you of pretzelling, but that is as judgmental as it will be.
I'm currently not interested in the subject of Greenland particularly on the Maduro and Venezuela thread.
 

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How bout I am there when I speak with my family and friends and you are not? Yeah, that's my take.
Why so hostile when I conceded to you your right to believe what you like? We can go with your version since it's your family, all good, so take it easy.

I'm currently not interested in the subject of Greenland particularly on the Maduro and Venezuela thread.

How convenient. LOL.

This isn’t some side issue, it goes directly to the core of what you’re defending the US from entering another country and claimingng they are in charge of it , NO? You want to ignore the U.S. inserting itself into a sovereign NATO member’s territory and taking land or carrying on into Colombia and Mexico. That’s a line even Putin has been careful to blur with historical claims. Ukraine, at various points in history, was part of the Russian Empire and the USSR. Greenland has never been part of the United States.

Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark, a founding NATO ally that has fought alongside the U.S. for decades. Denmark already cooperates with the U.S. on Greenland’s defense and hosts U.S. military installations there. There is no credible security threat that Denmark is failing to address and Denmark would never block legitimate NATO defense needs anyway.

So framing this as some kind of “security necessity” is nonsense. It’s a land grab, plain and simple.

And now you want to postpone the discussion until Trump’s talking points are fully workshopped after an incursion happens? That’s exactly the pattern: dismiss, deflect, then justify retroactively once the facts are on the ground.


And Colombia isn’t some disposable country either.

It’s been one of the U.S.’s closest allies in Latin America for decades. Through Plan Colombia, the two countries worked hand-in-hand on counter-narcotics, intelligence sharing, and weakening groups like FARC — efforts that directly benefited U.S. security. Colombia hosts joint operations, shares intelligence, and has consistently aligned itself with U.S. regional goals.

The U.S.–Colombia free trade agreement supports billions in trade and American jobs, and Colombia was designated a Major Non-NATO Ally , a status Washington gives to very few countries.

So threatening or strong-arming Colombia isn’t “tough leadership.” It’s strategically dumb. You don’t undermine one of your most reliable partners in the hemisphere and then pretend you care about alliances or sovereignty.

Yet, you don't want to discuss this in a thread where the US went in, kidnapped its leader (yes Maduro is a POS), and now claims HE RUNS THE COUNTRY about the countries he wants to attack, invade and capture??

Look at it this way Wyatt, once it happens or if it happens, you will be prepared for the Sunday family discussions, and hopefully you will be able to thank me for it! ;)
 
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