I don't think we can deny the there are a lot purchasers in this industry, but the purchase is illegal. Do you think that there are purchasers out there that don't know they are committing a criminal act?
Do clients know they are committing a criminal act?
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Difference between criminal and illegal, sometimes the same as the difference between a crime and a sin...
A criminal act is an illegal one. We all know what the OP means.
An equally valid question is whether you know there is a police Prioritization Policy in Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver that effectively eliminates the risk of arrest in the circumstances advertised and reviewed on Terb, and whether you have followed the Ontario-specific court cases that bring into play (for Ontario) the very real question of whether c-36 is enforceable (which further eliminates the risk of arrest unless the lady is underaged, coerced, or a victim of violence by the customer)?
In this day and age, if you're a john, you have to live under a rock to not know Bill C-36, but still we cannot rule out the possibility there are some real dumb fucks out there.
My coworker visits spas but doesn't know about Terb. I wouldn't be surprised he never heard of Bill C-36.
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I always though we all are just paying for their time. Whatever else happens is between 2 consenting adults.
My recollection, although I haven’t followed them as closely as I am sure others here on Terb have, is that call into serious question the Constitutionality of c-36, but limit the decision to Ontario, therefore allowing the Canadian Supreme Court to simply decline hearing an appeal that would cause a new level of turmoil.
Both the legislature and even the courts in Canada made it clear they didn’t want full Decriminalization. So Canada ended up in a pretty good case with its Nordic model. The police in metro areas made it clear they have no interest in enforcing the law absent the lady being underaged, coerced, or a victim of violence related to the commercial sex act. The police in rural areas and certain suburbs are not so kind but are able to use the law to make it clear that fucking for money belongs in the big cities. And courts make it clear they don‘t want to hear further cases on the subject by declining to hear them or issue any meaningful rulings on them when they are forced to do so.
The U.S. has a similar situation honestly with its sweeping Fosta/Sesta legislation. There are likely lots of behind the scenes deals that are unpublicized. TER was quietly allowed to be accessed again in the U.S. after withdrawing. And I am sure the Canadian agencies know how far they can go in advertising without causing the police to rethink the prioritization policy.
This is how the world works now. Draconian legislation that is passed but not enforced in the draconian manner that the law permits as long as everyone stays behind the “line in the sand” that was negotiated. I think some of that negotiation is now done when laws are even proposed. That is what happened in Spain. The advertising boards and message boards adopted new policies limiting explicit advertising and discussions. The proposed Nordic Model lost its support and never passed after that, fortunately.
And we have ourselves to blame sometimes. Look at Craigslist before its demise. The same school kids shopping for backpacks could click three additional buttons and see who was offering BBBJ.
How much prison time if someone is arrested and charged under Bill C-36?
I mean, I bring some board games. But darn it all i'm shocked how often it seems that women apparently can't resist over the hill plain looking men.
None, you'll get a small fine perhaps John school (if they still have that) and if they are real pricks they will make you call home for bail. But the reality is the cops don't have the resources to go around chasing John's unless it involves trafficking or another crime like robbery.
Toronto is not enforcing they came out when C36 first became law that basically they would not enforce against consenting adults. Likewise Montreal and Vancouver.
I believe the count is now 2 wins and 1 loss in Superior Courts, but the wins were very strong that C36 violates the safety of persons provision of the Charter, just like when incalls and agencies won under the old law - outcall was legal just not bawdy houses or living off the avils. The original Superior Court Ontario female judge had one of the longest opinions in Canada at the time, making it clear being illegal made it more risky and totally rejected the friends of Court briefs from conservatives and US religious folks that it was an abuse of women.
A few years ago police stopped an escort coming to my hotel appt. This was Peel region, and their only question for the escort was if she was doing this voluntarily. No problem. We have no idea how they knew she was an escort when they pulled her over in my hotel parking lot.
I believe the count is now 2 wins and 1 loss in Superior Courts, but the wins were very strong that C36 violates the safety of persons provision of the Charter, just like when incalls and agencies won under the old law - outcall was legal just not bawdy houses or living off the avils. The original Superior Court Ontario female judge had one of the longest opinions in Canada at the time, making it clear being illegal made it more risky and totally rejected the friends of Court briefs from conservatives and US religious folks that it was an abuse of women.
A few years ago police stopped an escort coming to my hotel appt. This was Peel region, and their only question for the escort was if she was doing this voluntarily. No problem. We have no idea how they knew she was an escort when they pulled her over in my hotel parking lot.
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