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The SPVM dismantled a long‑running Montreal escort agency after an undercover investigation revealed strict control, financial exploitation, and coercive practices toward the women working there. The probe began when an escort called 911 saying she was being controlled by a pimping network, prompting months of infiltration, surveillance, and over 80 warrants. Five people now face charges for procuring, advertising sexual services, and profiting from the operation.
 

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So they have client info, 🤔

Interesting facts;
-10 clients, with a 15-minute break between each. Next day she had 12 clients. How many hours per day though -ouch.
Sounds like the popular girls at HPL. I'l bet they see similar numbers.
 

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I feel kind of bad for the male cops who had to sit there for the allocated time with the female cop who was hot enough to be hired by the agency and not get any services after spending police money.

This will be a good thread to link back to when people bitch about pricing. Lower pricing means higher volumes to achieve the same profit level. When you see independents and ladies from agencies with higher pricing that act as a consortium of independents, there are better working conditions. With the German FKKs, a person sees that the lady he had sex with 15 minutes before is circling and finding another guy, so they can understand the reality. At least with lower-priced North American agencies, the ladies don’t live in an adjacent building like in Germany.

There are rarely any good answers in this business, and like the young Amazon pickers who walk and run 10 miles a day while working, some say thank god I am not in that damn McDonalds kitchen. Some ladies are able to get wet enough and/or use enough lube to handle a hell of a workload in a day. A lot of ladies worked with XO for a long time, so one has to remember that the stories of two or three ladies isn’t the entire story.

Really the same with underaged. Every time the subject comes up, there are a bunch of posters who say slice the guy’s dick off in public. Hopefully none of the guys who said that saw the 17-year old at XO in Montreal.

No great answers in this business, other than to say the old adage that there is often a high cost to low price. A rational society would solve the problem of high barriers to entry for independents though loans, but society will never accept that. Same with the inefficiencies and high costs of lack of incalls. No great answers. Nothing is more difficult for providers than finding one, and most customers are locals who don’t want to get a hotel room.

This might irritate people, but it really isn’t that different in beef production. Everyone likes the idea of grass-fed cows, but they want the prices associated with feed-slots. So most burgers are from “feed-slot” cows who live terrible lives. Economics is never pretty, and people like to live in denial then act shocked when there is a reality-based article, at least from the perspective of two or three dissatisfied people.

But in general, paying more is never really a bad thing in terms of worker satisfaction.
 
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I feel kind of bad for the male cops who had to sit there for the allocated time with the female cop who was hot enough to be hired by the agency and not get any services after spending police money.

This will be a good thread to link back to when people bitch about pricing. Lower pricing means higher volumes to achieve the same profit level. When you see independents and ladies from agencies with higher pricing that act as a consortium of independents, there are better working conditions. With the German FKKs, a person sees that the lady he had sex with 15 minutes before is circling and finding another guy, so they can understand the reality. At least with lower-priced North American agencies, the ladies don’t live in an adjacent building like in Germany.

There are rarely any good answers in this business, and like the young Amazon pickers who walk and run 10 miles a day while working, some say thank god I am not in that damn McDonalds kitchen. Some ladies are able to get wet enough and/or use enough lube to handle a hell of a workload in a day. A lot of ladies worked with XO for a long time, so one has to remember that the stories of two or three ladies isn’t the entire story.

Really the same with underaged. Every time the subject comes up, there are a bunch of posters who say slice the guy’s dick off in public. Hopefully none of the guys who said that saw the 17-year old at XO in Montreal.

No great answers in this business, other than to say the old adage that there is often a high cost to low price. A rational society would solve the problem of high barriers to entry for independents though loans, but society will never accept that. Same with the inefficiencies and high costs of lack of incalls. No great answers. Nothing is more difficult for providers than finding one, and most customers are locals who don’t want to get a hotel room.

This might irritate people, but it really isn’t that different in beef production. Everyone likes the idea of grass-fed cows, but they want the prices associated with feed-slots. So most burgers are from “feed-slot” cows who live terrible lives. Economics is never pretty, and people like to live in denial then act shocked when there is a reality-based article, at least from the perspective of two or three dissatisfied people.

But in general, paying more is never really a bad thing in terms of worker satisfaction.
Yes there is a simple answer. The girls, as a rule, should be "medium volume". At best. In other words 3 clients, over an 8 hour shift say. That covers multi hour clients as well. At an average of 200 for the SP per client. 600 bucks. Thats good enough based on 3 week 3 shifts a week to cover things for most people.

I get it. Fuck those traffickers. I'm talking about agencies that also tend to overwork the SP's. Probably result in less burnout as well.
 

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Wow they have female cops posing as escorts and male ones posing as clients, while property crimes like grand theft auto gone through the roof, Canadian cops really are useless.

As for the 17 yo, they slip through occasionally, that's really nothing, not all agencies look at women's ids when hiring them. Age of consent is 16 in Canada anyway so who cares? A 20 yo adult can bang a 15 yo, but a 21 yo cannot according to Canadian law, at some point your realize all this age of consent is made up bullshit. In Nigeria age of consent is 11. :poop:
 

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Wow they have female cops posing as escorts and male ones posing as clients, while property crimes like grand theft auto gone through the roof, Canadian cops really are useless.

As for the 17 yo, they slip through occasionally, that's really nothing, not all agencies look at women's ids when hiring them. Age of consent is 16 in Canada anyway so who cares? A 20 yo adult can bang a 15 yo, but a 21 yo cannot according to Canadian law, at some point your realize all this age of consent is made up bullshit. In Nigeria age of consent is 11. :poop:
There was a District of Columbia agency that was subject to a federal investigation and it turned out that almost every new lady’s first customer was one of certain regular johns. The primary “tester” John was an attorney in D.C. The government pressured the fuck out of him to testify against the agency to avoid charges. Apparently the Bar Association frowns upon working as an attorney during the day and making sure the new agency lady is a good fuck in the evening.

XO was pretty fucking sloppy to put a new, unverified customer (who was a police plant) as the first customer for the new escort who was a police plant. But Canadians got complacent after the police non enforcement bulletin. I guess the part of that non enforcement about underaged and coercion has some teeth. Obviously if they pressured ladies to keep working by threatening to out them, that is terrible. But it sounds fishy that only one lady out of hundreds who worked there is saying that.

Cops do have a sense of humor. Bet the male police plant whispered to the female police plant a few days later: “I did a 10 out of 10 review.”
 
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XO used to be a great agency. But somehow, after COVID, it turned sour. Not sure what happened. Most girls flocked to Forever.

LE busted them because they had become a nuisance to incall neighbours, but mostly I am sure because of that 17-year-old girl.

Not sure we will ever know what happens next.
 
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Pretty good police work. (y)

A lot went into that investigation. Hope the cops and Crown Attorney's have their ducks in a row so the charges stick. This sounds like a pretty exploitative agency.
 

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Wow they have female cops posing as escorts and male ones posing as clients, while property crimes like grand theft auto gone through the roof, Canadian cops really are useless.

As for the 17 yo, they slip through occasionally, that's really nothing, not all agencies look at women's ids when hiring them. Age of consent is 16 in Canada anyway so who cares? A 20 yo adult can bang a 15 yo, but a 21 yo cannot according to Canadian law, at some point your realize all this age of consent is made up bullshit. In Nigeria age of consent is 11. :poop:

<sarcasm>You sound like a fine Canadian Sir John A. </sarcasm>

"Grand Theft Auto"? The game or the charge used in US TV series? Because "Grand Theft Auto" is not a charge in Canada.

You sound like an immature intel middle aged gamer loser who has no sense of humanity, live in an online world and value cars more than people. And even knowing, least of all endorsing the age of consent is 11 in Nigeria... is sick in and of itself. But I'm glad you put your personal signature :poop: beside it. At least you recognize who you are.

And have zero for the vulnerable among us.

IF I was like you, I'd hope that a guy like you ends up incarcerated and being vulnerable and violated. You'd be well deserving of the karma.
 
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From that article (English translation): "The rate is $280 an hour. The agency keeps $90 for the first client of the day and $80 for each subsequent client." It seems it was a good agency for both the girls and the clients. The girl/agency split is 70-30 (very generous), the girl made $200 per hour without any expenses paid by the independent, and clients pay only $280. Hell, it was the golden standard of what agencies should be. Maybe because they made only $80 per client, they did not have enough money to bribe the right people, and this is why they got in trouble?
 

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Pretty good police work. (y)

A lot went into that investigation. Hope the cops and Crown Attorney's have their ducks in a row so the charges stick. This sounds like a pretty exploitative agency.
Like Jalimon, I saw a lady through them before Covid and even before c-36. The lady also worked as an independent under a different name and had an online web presence under even another name. She affiliated with XO on afternoons of certain slow days in her independent persona. She was way too self-confident to be exploited, in my opinion. The agency was great to deal with.

They probably had completely different bookers by the time all of this happened, but keep in mind that some of these stories are coming from two fairly traumatized ladies. One lady was all dolled up for a session and she opens the door and it is … her dad. She was probably pretty damn pissed at the world when her dad wanted her to go to the police with him. And the drug-addicted lady was possibly under the influence of “rehabbers” after she was taken in off the streets. A lot of those people hate sex work because they think the money the ladies get is the fuel for drugs.

We will never get the genuine thoughts of all the ladies affiliated with the agency to balance all opinions.
 
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XO used to be a great agency. But somehow, after COVID, it turned sour. Not sure what happened. Most girls flocked to Forever.

LE busted them because they had become a nuisance to incall neighbours, but mostly I am sure because of that 17-year-old girl.

Not sure we will ever know what happens next.
Escorts XO might have been the top agency pre-COVID. They had some superstars.

Looking at the young ages of some of these guys, I'm thinking the agency changed hands several years ago.

Jali, you're plugged into the MTL scene (or at least you were in the past). Can you elaborate on this more?
 

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Escorts XO might have been the top agency pre-COVID. They had some superstars.

Looking at the young ages of some of these guys, I'm thinking the agency changed hands several years ago.

Jali, you're plugged into the MTL scene (or at least you were in the past). Can you elaborate on this more?
There is a huge thread on Merb. I did not ready it entirely. But honestly, it does not highlight me that much.

Many, as you wrote, and what I think also, think that the original owner of XO left the agency around the time, and it went all downhill.

But some write that it`s still him who was convicted.

Like you, I confirm XO was an amazing agency where all the girls there always told me they were very nicely treated. And now this...
 
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There is a huge thread on Merb. I did not ready it entirely. But honestly, it does not highlight me that much.

Many, as you wrote, and what I think also, think that the original owner of XO left the agency around the time, and it went all downhill.

But some write that it`s still him who was convicted.

Like you, I confirm XO was an amazing agency where all the girls there always told me they were very nicely treated. And now this...
They are not going to tell you if they are badly treated. Mind you I saw massage owner put caméra and mic so who knows.

Also, 12 clients a day with 15 min in between is already crazy, not being able to say no to an appointment without paying a fee is not nice at all. Agencies have way too much leniency from the Law. This is glorifed pimpery in this case. Glad they shut it down and hopefully other agencies will stop overworking their girl and stop taking such a huge percentage for the very little they do. If you have a roster of 10+ girls all those fee are quickly paid.
 
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