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China's Real Estate Collapse Sends Local Debt To Record $18.9 Trillion

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Staggering debt levels, deflationary death cycles, dumping of surplus goods, rising youth unemployment and growing discontent among the remaining working class with unpaid wages, factories closing down (and burning down) - the CCP has ruined the "Chinese Dream" and squandered the greatest demographic dividend in the history of mankind. Moderate prosperity looks like a pipedream now and it seems we will need to eat more bitterness.

by Tyler Durden
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Almost 20 years ago, when the Lehman/AIG collapse and the ensuing global financial crisis sent the world into a brief but acute depression, it was China's massive debt-fueled growth dynamo that kick started the world economy and lifted the globe out of what would have been a lost decade - if not worse. The one trade off to this historic kickstart: China ended up doubling its total debt, which then continued growing at an exponential rate until the covid collapse sent China's property sector - the biggest asset of its massive middle class - into a tailspin, and sparked a historic economic crisis. Only this time, because its total debt was already at 350% of GDP, Beijing no longer could wave a magic debt wand, inject a few trillions in credit, and make it all go away. Instead, the housing market has been in steady decline for the past 5 years and if anything, the decline has accelerated now that China's Vanke - the last remaining state-backed property giant - is on the verge of collapse.

Unfortunately for China, which has done an admirable job of shoving all its economic woes under the rug while pretending it is growing at a immutable 5% year in and out, it's about to get worse.
As Japan's Nikkei reports, China's local government debt continues to balloon as the prolonged, 5-year-long and counting, real estate slump has led to slumping income from property sales, pushing local government bond issuance for the year to a record high.

The total owed by local governments and the local government financing vehicles (LGFV) that fund their projects now sits at an estimated 134 trillion yuan ($18.9 trillion), which suggests that total public debt to GDP is far above 200%... and rising (by comparison in the US it is 100%... and rising). Add another 200% in private sector debt, and you can see why China debt problem is even bigger than that of Japan. It's also what, according to Rabobank's Michael Every, underlines China’s structural necessity to maintain capital controls and a vast, neo-mercantilist trade surplus (i.e., China will continue dumping goods and exporting deflation as the alternative means game over).

And while China's record low interest rates may cover up and put the problem off temporarily, it will also draw out deflation further, further depressing growth, leading to even more debt, and so on as the deflationary debt vortex expands.

"We've set aside 500 billion yuan for local governments," said China's Finance Ministry said in an October notice, explaining that it had approved additional debt expansion.
The funds are to be used to reduce local government debt and unpaid bills, as well as for investment projects.

"Right now, local governments are focusing on issuing bonds, placing them quickly and realizing their benefits as soon as possible," said Li Dawei, who leads the ministry's new debt management department.
Issuance of local government bonds this year totaled over 10 trillion yuan as of the end of last month. This exceeds the total for all of last year - 9.7 trillion yuan - and has already set a record for the largest amount in a single year. The outstanding balance of local government bonds has reached 54 trillion yuan.

Multiple factors are behind the increase. The biggest one is the drop in local government revenues resulting from the never ending real estate market slump. The value of property sold by local governments in January-October totaled just under 2.5 trillion yuan. In 2021, that value was over 8.7 trillion yuan for the full year.

"Over 10% of properties to be sold received no bids because there were no buyers," said You Zipei, an analyst at Zhongtai International Securities. You says the market is adjusting further, and expects the total value of property sales for 2025 to be about 3 trillion yuan, a more than 5 trillion yuan decline from the peak.

Another reason local governments are issuing more bonds is hidden debt. Hidden debt refers to money raised through means such as corporate bonds issued by local government financing vehicles, or investment companies owned by local governments.

There is no precise data on the balances of these LGFV debts. The total of all debt with interest issued by roughly 4,000 LGFVs sat at 87 trillion yuan at the end of last year, according to Chinese data provider DZH. Adding this to the 47 trillion yuan in local government bonds brings the total to 134 trillion yuan, or just under $19 trillion.

The International Monetary Fund estimated LGFV debt in China at 65 trillion yuan in 2024. While there are a range of estimates, the general view is that local governments in China have between 60 trillion yuan and 80 trillion yuan in off balance-sheet debt.

A company can survive even with large debts as long as it is making money, but LGFVs have low profitability, with nearly 10% seeing losses. Only 3% of LGFVs have a return on equity over 4%.
Sure enough, while total net profit for LGFVs for the year ended December 2024 was around 550 billion yuan, they received double that, or more than 1 trillion yuan, in subsidies. In other words, without constant funding from Beijing, China's regional economies would implode.

This means that nearly 50% of those LGFVs were in the red when subsidies are excluded. Considering the projects they fund are low profitability infrastructure projects, these entities will face a long road to paying down their debts.

In spite of their massive debts, LGFVs can continue to operate by banking on implicit guarantees from the government and low interest rates resulting from prolonged deflation. Meanwhile, the debt hole is only getting bigger: Xi Jinping's government last fall approved the issuance of an additional 10 trillion yuan in local government bonds to transfer LGFV debt to local governments. The government has a strong desire to avoid a financial crisis brought on by LGFVs, or anyone else for that matter as economic collapse in the middle of a trade war with Trump would be catastrophic for Xi's reputation.

The average yield on corporate bonds issued by LGFVs under the city of Beijing this year is 2.1%, down 1.4 percentage points from 2021. The drop is comparable to that seen for national government bonds. The finances of local governments are being supported by monetary easing on the part of the People's Bank of China in an effort to prop up the sluggish economy.

While deflation does help kick the debt problem down the road, it also makes the issue ultimately harder - if not impossible absent a devastating crisis - to solve.

The Domar condition is one indicator for determining fiscal stability. The basic idea is that fiscal sustainability is unlikely to be compromised as long as the nominal rate of economic growth exceeds the nominal interest rate.

"With China's nominal growth rate headed downward to the 3% range, and its nominal interest rate is just under 2%, the gap is closing," said Yusuke Miura at think tank NLI Research Institute. And unless the PBOC pulls a Japan and unleashes Negative Rates thanks to massive QE, the countdown to China's next mega crisis is on.

The majority of China's government bonds are denominated in yuan. With the country's large current account surplus, local government bonds are not likely to run out of buyers in the near future. Yet China's government is well aware that its fiscal situation is getting worse. It has started refraining from making big outlays and there is a growing possibility that deflation due to slack demand will drag on.


 
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A 50% to 90% crash in housing price across China, Hong Kong, Australia, UK, US
and Canada is not a bad thing. A lot of people will be very pleased to be able to finally
buy their own home.
 

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A 50% to 90% crash in housing price across China, Hong Kong, Australia, UK, US
and Canada is not a bad thing. A lot of people will be very pleased to be able to finally
buy their own home.
The 50% housing crash has already happened in china. I dont think the pros of "finally owning their own home in china" is outweighing the negatives it has caused.
 
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A 50% to 90% crash in housing price across China, Hong Kong, Australia, UK, US
and Canada is not a bad thing. A lot of people will be very pleased to be able to finally
buy their own home.
We are not going to see a 50% crash in Canada. We have banking laws that as a rule prevent anything like a sub prime crisis or too many bad loans. We will see some speculation properties go up for sale I imagine. And a slowdown of building and sales. Mostly in the condo market. But I can't see more then 15-20% drop under the worst conditions.
 

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The 50% housing crash has already happened in china. I dont think the pros of "finally owning their own home in china" is outweighing the negatives it has caused.
You probably know better but wasn't a lot of it people buying second homes now worthless? Lots of Tofu concrete buildings. And bad loans as well? I know people buy there and pay mortgages right away even if its not built yet, or sold out, unlike here where deposits sit in escrow until most of the units are sold.
 

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We are not going to see a 50% crash in Canada. We have banking laws that as a rule prevent anything like a sub prime crisis or too many bad loans. We will see some speculation properties go up for sale I imagine. And a slowdown of building and sales. Mostly in the condo market. But I can't see more then 15-20% drop under the worst conditions.
Condo's crashed in Ontario.

And under DoFo, housing starts are way down.
But its not a full housing crash.
yet

 

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Quite different scenarios. China is still steeped in poverty. And if you think the U.S. is impoverished, you havent seen the world my friend.
The U.S. went from housing overcapacity in 2008 to a widely felt shortage about ten years later.
The U.S. housing market can be cyclical, but it is resilient and it adjusts.

People who don't understand markets or choose not to believe in the efficiency of the market would quibble with that.

Now what does the next ten years hold for U.S. (and Canadian) housing markets. I don't know, but it will be interesting to see what happens when the boomers finally sell their homes and downsize.

China completely distorted their housing market far beyond any recognizable demand.
 

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You probably know better but wasn't a lot of it people buying second homes now worthless? Lots of Tofu concrete buildings. And bad loans as well? I know people buy there and pay mortgages right away even if its not built yet, or sold out, unlike here where deposits sit in escrow until most of the units are sold.
It's been widely discussed by economists that the Chinese government engages in something called financial repression. They limit what Chinese banks can pay in interest. They have other ways to suppress interest rates and channel money into manufacturing.

Housing was one area where Chinese households could put their savings to gain higher returns. The Chinese regional governments liked selling land and they enjoyed the boost in GDP from construction. That was a good strategy maybe fifteen, twenty years ago. But as you noted many Chinese bought second and even third homes. The regional governments under pressure from Beijing to meet GDP growth targets encouraged more and more residential real estate construction.
 
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It's been widely discussed by economists that the Chinese government engages in something called financial repression. They limit what Chinese banks can pay in interest. They have other ways to suppress interest rates and channel money into manufacturing.

Housing was one area where Chinese households could put their savings to gain higher returns. The Chinese regional governments liked selling land and they enjoyed the boost in GDP from construction. That was a good strategy maybe fifteen, twenty years ago. But as you noted many Chinese bought second and even third homes. The regional governments under pressure from Beijing to meet GDP growth targets encouraged more and more residential real estate construction.
Yet in both Canada and america, stagnant wages and inflation have made housing totally unaffordable for gen z and most everyone now.
A tariff based recession and/or AI bubble burst is all it would take to make it a total disaster.

 

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We are not going to see a 50% crash in Canada. We have banking laws that as a rule prevent anything like a sub prime crisis or too many bad loans. We will see some speculation properties go up for sale I imagine. And a slowdown of building and sales. Mostly in the condo market. But I can't see more then 15-20% drop under the worst conditions.
It doesn't even really matter what a crash looks like in the short-run. Most people with equity in their properties sit on their real estate holdings and wait for the real estate market to recover. It's the highly-leveraged, illiquid owners who get squeezed.

Condo values are easy to gauge. Over the long-run, valuation will track the rents in a city. When that valuation starts to move much faster than the underlying rents, you move into correction territory. Condo buyers who are dependent on capital appreciation (as opposed to the future rental streams) to justify their investments tend to be the fools at the end of the cycle.

Single-family home prices can be stickier. Most people just stay put. I still wouldn't want to try to sell a single family home in a downturn.
 

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Not sure what rules i broke with my previous response to this to have it removed. Maybe it was the happy face i put at the end of it. Anyways here we go again.

Poverty threshold in china is like 2.3 a day so about 800 a year. Poverty threshold in usa is 15k. Poverty in china and poverty in the US is not equal. 😀 But nice chart.

Franky comparing China and US is quite laughable...
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Not sure what rules i broke with my previous response to this to have it removed. Maybe it was the happy face i put at the end of it. Anyways here we go again.

Poverty threshold in china is like 2.3 a day so about 800 a year. Poverty threshold in usa is 15k. Poverty in china and poverty in the US is not equal. 😀 But nice chart.



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Fair point, but what you can buy on $5/day in China is much different than what you get in america.
The point being that China is trending up while america is trending down.
 

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Poverty threshold in china is like 2.3 a day so about 800 a year. Poverty threshold in usa is 15k. Poverty in china and poverty in the US is not equal. 😀 But nice chart.
Don't a lot of these U.S. poverty metrics often ignore government assistance?
 

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Fair point, but what you can buy on $5/day in China is much different than what you get in america.
The point being that China is trending up while america is trending down.
Id argue that in order to be trending up, a number like 300 million that drink contaminated water on a daily basis probably should be lower (for reference that is like the entire population of the U.S.)
 

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Sure. But when you think rent, food, Healthcare costs.......
That's really not the point.

Poverty indexes are of some interest. However, when comparing poverty across countries it is more useful to include govt. assistance.
 
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