I would think that the evil would be the side that thinks its a good idea to strip away rights and benefits from the downtrodden. But, that's always been the right's way, either trying to push back progress, or keep things as the status quo, where people are kept in their place. That is the true definition of evil. And pretending that Canada is failed in any way is pretty funny, considering the shit show in the US. And, I would point out the majority of developed economies have done, or are doing the same things as Canada. So, you can pretend that you have clue about what you're talking about, and not just parroting extremist right-wing bullshit. But the rest of us who live in reality and not some cultish bubble will continue to understand what is going on in our country.
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You called Obama, Kamala and Newsom woke, and progressive, even though politically they all are actually just center left.
Center left policies such as the ones you listed above have a long history in the US, and are pretty mainstream.
PS: I am not going to dive into each and point out that some are not state/federal policy at all, but that is besides the point.
What a list of butt hurt, imaginary issues and whining. That you think those are the major issues of the day as MAGA destroys the US economy, kills democracy, disappears people via ICE and pockets billions on insider trading shows just how well rage farming works and how easy you are to be lead through misdirection.
Obama was centrist at best, but mostly a right wing libertarian.
Barring a couple of the ones you listed not being state or federal policies at all, none of the others you listed are remotely "woke".
What is so woke about bail reform, providing assistance to immigrants or supporting affirmative action that had been around for decades?
While you are whining about trans people in sport trump and his team pulled a fast one.
You won't even care, you will go straight back to blaming DEI for something instead.
if you were able to think, which you are not
the evil would be the
i.e. the emergencies act
freezing of bank accounts
confiscation of private property (hunters and farmers rifles)
forced eV mandates
censorship of online publication
corruption of the state funded media
irresponsible management of the public purse , if your going to take 1/3 to 1/2 of my earnings, you had better well be responsible with that god damn money
actually the right firmly believes in innovation, advancement via merit, Entrepreneurship law and order and far less government regulation in our economy and personal lives.
Trudeau entangled our economy with so much regulation that investment left the country and productivity declined
re abortion: not my place to decide
the exact same position Steven Harper took for his term in office
you have had blinders on for at least a decade
Canada economy is failing
pay attention
debt levels are way beyond sustainable at all levels of government and at the consumer level
mass immigration has cause a housing shortage and over burdened our health care system
the cost of living is stressing family resources
Trudeau strangled our natural resource sector with regulation
the housing market cannot get homes built due to over regulation
Donald Trump is going to steal most of auto sector and forest sector employment
Canada economy is failing
the us economy is growing
you are such a fool to think you can mention "Trump" and all of the liberal sins get whitewashed away
it does not
Canadians will have to endure a nasty recession , watch govt debt continue to skyrocket and have their living standard decline
A whole generation will be denied homeownership
And a great deal of that pain lands squarely at the feet of your failed ideology / Trudeau
once again , you think mentioning other countries and all of the liberal sins get whitewashed
it does not[
you are not very bright
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What are you rambling on about today, larue?
Why don't you just move to america if you think its so much better?
You could just cheer for all the guns and health care costs you want and enjoy the ICE freedoms you so desire.
These are issues that destroy the fabric of what made America and Canada great. Hardly imaginary and ineffectual. Your ignorance knows no bounds Al Frankfooter.
Pierre asking to end DEI in federal institutions to bring back the "merit principle".
This from a guy, who lost his own riding, and had someone else in a safe riding step down to run in his stead.
lmfao.
This from a guy, who lost his own riding, and had someone else in a safe riding step down to run in his stead.
lmfao.
I guess I don't see the similarity or the hilarity.Pierre asking to end DEI in federal institutions to bring back the "merit principle".
This from a guy, who lost his own riding, and had someone else in a safe riding step down to run in his stead.
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Poilievre's district changed.
In your system, voters on a national level don't decide the party leaders. The party does. Whereas in our system, voters nationally decide who leads the party in Presidential elections (generally). I think this is very true. In fact, U.S. Presidents who have lost local and state races are not entirely unusual.
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PP lost his riding that he had held for 21 years in the elections.
Then asked another conservative MP in a safe riding to resign, and ran in the newly vacant place, to secure a seat in parliament.
So yes, this guy shouldn't be trash talking DEI.
Sorry I don't see the relevance.
Poilievre is the leader of the Conservative party (an earned position) until Conservatives decide they want a new leader. That has nothing remotely to do with DEI. That is simply how your system works. I seem to remember the Liberals installed Trudeau to run in the Papineau riding then quickly moved him into leadership.
Down here, people bitch and moan about politicians moving into new districts and even new states but the voters in those jurisdictions can override the best made plans if they see fit.
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I think you are conveniently ignoring the underperformance of the Canadian economy vis-a-vis the United States for many years.
Eventually all of Canada's social programs won't mean anything in comparison if the U.S. keeps growing faster and its tax base keeps expanding with it.
Not only is our economy more dynamic, our politics are more dynamic. Your political system resembles Germany's Merkel years where self-satisfying consensus led to the exaggerated impression of stability and success. I would find that scary.
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Curious comment. It's one thing to take partisan positions, but one wants to be taken seriously on some level.
It's not unusual for folks on social media to try to put their stamp on what is centrist and what is not. I think it can become a rationalization of one's own views. I think most would agree that you have to discuss specific issues and specific policies to get a real handle on this.
Now on your noting Obama, Kamala and Newsom's political leanings. It's theoretical. We have a base line for Obama, but beyond that Harris and Newsom might never get past Presidential rhetoric.
Additionally, U.S. Presidents tend to be constrained by Congress. They however can exercise political power in various forms including regulatory power and judicial appointments that is not often understood or covered by the media.
Lastly, I think one or two members have noted the Overton window and how Trump is trying to stretch it rightward. Again I think that's rationalizing.
I don't think successful politicians stretch the Overton window as much as they read the mood of the electorate at a given point in time.
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No, trans people are not destroying the fabric of Canada or america.
Your list only proves you are a good subject for rage farming.
Most people are concerned about the economy, housing the tariffs, corruption and attacks on democracy.
Not DEI.
The relevance is that while whining about merit, he himself had to take someone else's spot in a safe riding, after getting them to resign and after losing his own riding.
So yes, what I said is still relevant.
Yes, which is why you don't take accusations of Obama's wokeness seriously, as it isn't true.
And what Obama said in that GIF, is a factually accurate statement.
