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Jimmy Kimmel Show is back! Sinclair & Nexstar backs down TACO style

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I won't be snarky by posting a laughing emoji.
You do realize Disney probably has a dozen or two PR folks who write corporate doublespeak all day long.
If this was a press release about some controversial matter from United Healthcare would you be be posting it as defacto evidence?

I acknowledged Sinclair and Nextstar's reaction. Their leadership certainly called Disney-ABC execs about suspending the show. The network-affiliate-audience is dynamic and fluid.

In any event, all I said was that before and after the incident ratings will be different in the various markets depending on their political make-up. Seems fairly straightforward and obvious, but yet you seem to want to semi-troll an argument.
All I am saying is that Kimmel was suspended for his speech because Trump took offence and his henchman at the FCC threatened.
It had nothing to do with Kimmel's ratings.
Walt Disney's subsequent statements prove that too.
 

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All I am saying is that Kimmel was suspended for his speech because Trump took offence and his henchman at the FCC threatened.
It had nothing to do with Kimmel's ratings.
Walt Disney's subsequent statements prove that too.
Was Disney avoiding a tense situation at an emotional moment in our country or was Disney intimidated by the Trump Administration?

Last Wednesday, we made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country. It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill-timed and thus insensitive. We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday.
 
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Was Disney avoiding a tense situation at an emotional moment in our country or was Disney intimidated by the Trump Administration?

Last Wednesday, we made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country. It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill-timed and thus insensitive. We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday.
Why did Carr say "we can do this the easy way or the hard way"?
Because of Kimmel's statement on Kirk.
Why did Disney say they suspended Kimmel?
Because of Kimmel's statement on Kirk.
When did both Carr and Disney make their statements/decisions?
After Kimmel's statement on Kirk.
 
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Yes we know Trump is usually ineffective.
But it was also the backlash that Disney got as a result of it
Good, so you agree with me Trump doesn't have the power to cancel people.

Good job shaq, I knew you would eventually get there 👍
 
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That then refutes the theory that the FCC head and Trump canceled Kimmel, or that they have the power to do so
For a guy who gets so intertwined in pretzels you sure have a way of not seeing the obvious or ignoring it. Or just putting up straw man arguments.

The FCC wasn't threatening to cancel ABC's license.

Nexstar and the other company that owns a bunch of ABC affiliates are doing an attempted merger/takeover that will require the discretional, affirmative, approval of the FCC to ignore a law that prohibits the concentration of ownership the merger would create. As it stands, the proposed small market affiliate takeover/merger is a non-starter because it already is against the law.

It was these affiliate stations, NOT ABC or Disney that flicked the first domino over.

Disney/ABC just decided they weren't going to be pushed around by Trump and some small affiliate stations trying to suck up to Trump. That their viewers, advertisers and maybe even their integrity were more important than the failing, flailing orangutan who is in bad health and is not going to be around loonger than the viewing public will.
 
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Why did Carr say "we can do this the easy way or the hard way"?
Because of Kimmel's statement on Kirk.
Why did Disney say they suspended Kimmel?
Because of Kimmel's statement on Kirk.
When did both Carr and Disney make their statements/decisions?
After Kimmel's statement on Kirk.
How bout all of the above including trying to assuage the audience?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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For a guy who gets so intertwined in pretzels you sure have a way of not seeing the obvious or ignoring it. Or just putting up straw man arguments.

The FCC wasn't threatening to cancel ABC's license.

Nexstar and the other company that owns a bunch of ABC affiliates are doing an attempted merger/takeover that will require the discretional, affirmative, approval of the FCC to ignore a law that prohibits the concentration of ownership the merger would create. As it stands, the proposed small market affiliate takeover/merger is a non-starter because it already is against the law
That's all fine and dandy, but all the Lefties on Terb are trying to argue that Trump was behind the cancellation of Kimmel
 

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Nexstar and the other company that owns a bunch of ABC affiliates are doing an attempted merger/takeover that will require the discretional, affirmative, approval of the FCC to ignore a law that prohibits the concentration of ownership the merger would create. As it stands, the proposed small market affiliate takeover/merger is a non-starter because it already is against the law.
Please elaborate "against the law".

Looking at the location of Nextstar's affiliates, I think their audiences are generally upset about Kimmel's comment. Again this idea that it is surprising that a large corporation would try to win favor with the current Administration seems genuinely naive. It happens under every Administration. Depending on one's politics, keeping Jimmy Kimmel off the air is not as big a conflict as other corporate kowtowing.
 

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Kimmel's suspension last week had absolutely nothing to do with ratings.
It might not be the main culprit of his suspension as it was probably the extremely distasteful joke that alienating more than half the country. But if you don't think a decline in ratings meaning declining ad revenue isn't also a concern for a media corporation then....
 

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That's all fine and dandy, but all the Lefties on Terb are trying to argue that Trump was behind the cancellation of Kimmel
The threat of incurring the wrath of Trump is all it takes. He is an unstable, spiteful, vindictive man and has been all his life. That's why the biggest companies who are used to telling the govt to fuck off, like Apple, literally bring him a BAR OF GOLD and take a Gravol to heap praise upon him. While, in fact, they fucking loathe him. But they are afraid of him. FFS, he even sues Rupert Murdoch personally when it was Murdoch's FoxNews that praises him 24/7 and buries all the stories that make him look bad.

I know you are not that naiive to believe that threats have to be direct and explicit to have their effect. So you are just another infatuated Trumpster whose sole pleasure comes from 'owning the libtards'.

ALL of your arguments are always right vs left. You do not consider the facts of each matter, just the political leaning you feel.
 

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It might not be the main culprit of his suspension as it was probably the extremely distasteful joke that alienating more than half the country. But if you don't think a decline in ratings meaning declining ad revenue isn't also a concern for a media corporation then....
The comrade doesn't see it that way..
 

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It might not be the main culprit of his suspension as it was probably the extremely distasteful joke that alienating more than half the country. But if you don't think a decline in ratings meaning declining ad revenue isn't also a concern for a media corporation then....
"More than half the country"? You are fucking delusional. Half the fucking USA does not follow the news at all. And even fewer give 2 shits about politics.

And as for ad revenue... you show your lack of understanding of how decisions are made in major global corporations. Or that 'ad revenue' , especially short term blips is hardly the motivation of the execs and Boards who make thee decisions. Market share, views, and mostly share/stock prices are but a few of the big drivers.

Get your slice of cake and back to the kids table for you.
 
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