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Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

Phil C. McNasty

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This should put the final nail into the coffin that suspect wasnt left-wing.
Straight from CNN, who quoted his own mother

I'm posting the relevant parts


Prosecutors in Utah released charging documents that don’t ascribe a specific motive but do feature a number of clues and shed light on Robinson’s politics.
Those who knew Robinson initially gave conflicting and confusing accounts about his politics.

The fuller evidence we now have suggests Robinson held liberal views.

In addition to criticizing Kirk for allegedly spreading hate, the charging documents say Robinson’s mother “explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

The documents also say Robinson had “several” political discussions with family members, especially his father, and that the two of them “have very different political views.”
Robinson in the text messages allegedly described his father as “pretty diehard MAGA,” since Trump took office.

The charging documents don’t include the texts immediately before or after he allegedly said that, so it’s not clear the context in which he brought that up. But the limited evidence we have from his family suggests he was at least left-leaning and disagreed with his MAGA father
 
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benstt

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This should put the final nail into the coffin that suspect wasnt left-wing.
Straight from CNN, who quoted his own mother

I'm posting the relevant parts

You added the conclusion that he is "left-wing", it was not in the article. What do you call a conservative that is not full MAGA? Can someone be conservative and still support minority rights? Or does supporting gay and trans rights more than MAGA make them radical left?


Yet that limited evidence about his political leanings still doesn’t back up suggestions from the president and his allies that Robinson was part of the “radical left.”

It’s possible Robinson harbored more radical views that he didn’t share with his family, but the only specific issues highlighted in the evidence so far are support for gay and trans rights.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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You added the conclusion that he is "left-wing", it was not in the article
Are you really this dense?? :D

From the CNN article ⬇⬇⬇

The fuller evidence we now have suggests Robinson held liberal views.

In addition to criticizing Kirk for allegedly spreading hate, the charging documents say Robinson’s mother “explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

The documents also say Robinson had “several” political discussions with family members, especially his father, and that the two of them “have very different political views.”
Robinson in the text messages allegedly described his father as “pretty diehard MAGA,” since Trump took office.

The charging documents don’t include the texts immediately before or after he allegedly said that, so it’s not clear the context in which he brought that up. But the limited evidence we have from his family suggests he was at least left-leaning and disagreed with his MAGA father
 
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Its a completely irrelevant question in light of all the evidence now coming out about Tyler Robinson, and you are literally grasping at straws
It's the core question if people are trying to label him "left-wing" or "right-wing" based on limited information that he was more supportive of gay and trans rights than his family. It's basic logic. You especially tried to say that this article is the final "final nail into the coffin". That's premature.

I have no view one way or the other, eventually they will get more information out on what his motive was.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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It's the core question if people are trying to label him "left-wing" or "right-wing" based on limited information that he was more supportive of gay and trans rights than his family. It's basic logic. You especially tried to say that this article is the final "final nail into the coffin". That's premature.

I have no view one way or the other, eventually they will get more information out on what his motive was
You might be right, there's still a chance he's right-wing or MAGA

 
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silentkisser

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He already admitted it...he even apologized to Trump...keep crying
I am shocked, SHOCKED I say, that facts don't matter in your world. Maybe alternative facts are more your speed. Or fabrications.

Here's the thing that I think most of us not in a cult can agree on. Many broadcasters/social media giants are kissing the ring because they either know or have been warned that Trump will hurt them if they act out against them. Wanna merge or buy a rival? Well, ya better get in line or it'll be rejected by the FCC or another governmental organization (DOJ?). Wanna keep doing business in the US? Tow the line! It's subtle extortion. So, Zuck could be legit sorry for trying to censor the insanity from the right so it wouldn't infect more idiots in the US and around the world (which makes me wonder how you became radicalized rich...Youtube, Facebook?), or he could make the hard business calculation and shut the fuck up. Keep in mind, Facebook helped Trump win in 2016 and then saw the supposed light and allegedly bulked up privacy settings...Now Trump is back, and Zuck is back to kissing ass.
 

silentkisser

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No..No..You don't get off that easy.

You said '' Righties are so gutless and feckless ''

Erika is about as MAGA right as you can get.

So once again Erika Kirk addresses the nation what 3 days after her husband was executed in front of her and her children..Tell me how gutless and feckless she is?
Dude, get your head out of your own ass. I don't give a flying fuck about her. So she was brave to speak in the wake of a tragedy. Good for her. I think his death was horrible. Nobody should be killed for their beliefs. But that doesn't change the overall argument here. An argument you are obviously losing since you need to rely on the grieving widow to show bravery. Good job. MAGA is gutless and feckless because when it comes to things like freedom of speech (which they were yelling from the rooftops a year ago) are silent when the Trump regime bulldozes over the constitution and using government to silence critics. They're basically "Free Speech for me, none for thee!"

So, you can pretend her saying anything here was brave. Maybe. Did she attempt to cool things down? Not that I can see. She promised to keep him name alive and continue his work....good for her, I guess, since it is her meal ticket. But, in all seriousness....will Kirk actually be remembered, or will he basically disappear like right-wing gas bag Rush Limbaugh?
 

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richaceg

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I am shocked, SHOCKED I say, that facts don't matter in your world. Maybe alternative facts are more your speed. Or fabrications.

Here's the thing that I think most of us not in a cult can agree on. Many broadcasters/social media giants are kissing the ring because they either know or have been warned that Trump will hurt them if they act out against them. Wanna merge or buy a rival? Well, ya better get in line or it'll be rejected by the FCC or another governmental organization (DOJ?). Wanna keep doing business in the US? Tow the line! It's subtle extortion. So, Zuck could be legit sorry for trying to censor the insanity from the right so it wouldn't infect more idiots in the US and around the world (which makes me wonder how you became radicalized rich...Youtube, Facebook?), or he could make the hard business calculation and shut the fuck up. Keep in mind, Facebook helped Trump win in 2016 and then saw the supposed light and allegedly bulked up privacy settings...Now Trump is back, and Zuck is back to kissing ass.
You're telling me media is afraid of Trump? I don't think so...If you think they are, then they're a bunch of pussies.
 

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