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silentkisser

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It's ok. I've come to accept you have no standards and will just shamelessly support anything that is anti-conservative. If I were to tell you Toronto Sun as a media doesn't make opinions or hold positions, you wouldn't agree. It's whatever is convenient for your motive.

I'm going to love seeing you guys have to suck it up when Carney rolls back every stupid policy you guys backed.
First, I should note that I worked as a journalist at the Sun. I still have former co-workers and other colleagues that work there. What you fail to understand, and this is the challenge for many who lack the capacity for critical thinking, is that while a media outlet might have a political leaning, they cover the news factually. Even the Sun. They might have editorial leeway to torque things, like headlines and the angle they take. But, the real opinion that you're talking about is from columnists like Joe Warmington, Brian Lilley or Adrian Batra (all three people I worked closely with).

So, you can look at it this way: If they are writing a factual story on, say a shooting, the news side will have all the details, quotes from witnesses and the police. A columnist could take the shooting story and use it as a cudgel to pound an argument about something like the government being soft on crime or immigration. But the thing about columnists is that they do not give both sides of the story. They usually give the paper's take on events and ignore or explain away contradictory evidence.

And, I should point out that I'm not a knee-jerk, conservatives are bad! type. I am not a cultist who blindly follows a party. I've voted both PC & Liberal, and it all depends on the party's policies. I do find it ironic that you would call me out on that when I could easily say the same thing about you being anti-Liberal. But, you probably wouldn't get it...
 

JohnLarue

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I'm sorry, did somebody pull your string? Where is the "failed ideology" rant?

you should be sorry
and you made this about you not me

I am not a cultist who blindly follows a party.
i am just calling out your blatant lie

there is no denying you continued to apologise for Justin Trudeau despite his decade long run of failure and corruption
it was both sickening and pathetic to watch you disgrace yourself, supporting an image over a lack of substance

if you want to tie his decade long run of failure and corruption to his failed ideologue, that works
it can not all be down to his lack of intelligence and fake/ plastic personality
 

silentkisser

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you should be sorry
and you made this about you not me


i am just calling out your blatant lie

there is no denying you continued to apologise for Justin Trudeau despite his decade long run of failure and corruption
it was both sickening and pathetic to watch you disgrace yourself, supporting an image over a lack of substance

if you want to tie his decade long run of failure and corruption to his failed ideologue, that works
it can not all be down to his lack of intelligence and fake/ plastic personality
You are such a partisan troll, you don't even know what the truth is. Trudeau had many faults, but to say he did nothing good during his time in office shows that you are, and likely always will be, partisan. I did not like Harper, but I can say that he did a good job in some areas during his term. But, you cannot do that for Trudeau. I get it. You don't like him. You bought into the right-wing media bullshit that everything he did was horrible. I'm not saying he was our greatest PM, because I think we all know that isn't true. But to say he was our worst....That would be incorrect. He was middling. Not great, not terrible...unless you're in the right-wing media-sphere of outrage and bullshit...So, basically you.
 

JohnLarue

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You are such a partisan troll, you don't even know what the truth is.
again you made this about you not me

I am not a cultist who blindly follows a party.

Trudeau had many faults, but to say he did nothing good during his time in office shows that you are, and likely always will be, partisan.
he caused damage and he was corrupt
and you defended him at each and every turn



I did not like Harper, but I can say that he did a good job in some areas during his term.
because Harper was responsible and understood the responsibilities of his office

But, you cannot do that for Trudeau.
because Trudeau was irresponsible and never understood the responsibilities of his office
everything Trudeau touched turned to shit

I get it. You don't like him.
yeah i am not a fan of corrupt conmen

You bought into the right-wing media bullshit that everything he did was horrible.
i did not need right wing media to tell me trudeau was a fool
i knew he was trouble in 2014


I'm not saying he was our greatest PM, because I think we all know that isn't true. But to say he was our worst....That would be incorrect.
wrong again
the absolute worst PM in Canadian history

He was middling. Not great, not terrible...unless you're in the right-wing media-sphere of outrage and bullshit...So, basically you.
he made a mess of everything he touched


now back to the issue at hand

I am not a cultist who blindly follows a party.
he caused damage and he was corrupt
and you defended him at each and every turn
and you still do
 

silentkisser

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again you made this about you not me





he caused damage and he was corrupt
and you defended him at each and every turn




because Harper was responsible and understood the responsibilities of his office


because Trudeau was irresponsible and never understood the responsibilities of his office
everything Trudeau touched turned to shit


yeah i am not a fan of corrupt conmen


i did not need right wing media to tell me trudeau was a fool
i knew he was trouble in 2014



wrong again
the absolute worst PM in Canadian history


he made a mess of everything he touched


now back to the issue at hand


he caused damage and he was corrupt
and you defended him at each and every turn
and you still do
You make a lot of claims. Partisan claims. You spout a lot of bullshit. You love to throw shit at other. You are basically a Chatty Cathy doll. Pull string, bullshit comes out. You are not a sage, middle of the road observer. You are, and always will be a right-wing troll. It amuses me to see how blind you are to that. And, for the record, no I do not defend Trudeau for everything. But part of the problem with you being so partisan is that you don't see nuance. I mean, that usually takes a bit of critical thinking to see why things happen in certain ways. So, maybe you should be forgiven for being so obtuse.
 

JohnLarue

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You make a lot of claims. Partisan claims. You spout a lot of bullshit. You love to throw shit at other. You are basically a Chatty Cathy doll. Pull string, bullshit comes out. You are not a sage, middle of the road observer. You are, and always will be a right-wing troll. It amuses me to see how blind you are to that. And, for the record, no I do not defend Trudeau for everything. But part of the problem with you being so partisan is that you don't see nuance. I mean, that usually takes a bit of critical thinking to see why things happen in certain ways. So, maybe you should be forgiven for being so obtuse.
again you made this about you not me

I am not a cultist who blindly follows a party.
you need to support your bullshit claim
and your track record dictates you are a blindly following cultist, you apologise for a moron Justin Trudeau for a whole decade
thus far all you have done is blither on about me

again you made this about you not me
 

Frankfooter

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again you made this about you not me


you need to support your bullshit claim
and your track record dictates you are a blindly following cultist, you apologise for a moron Justin Trudeau for a whole decade
thus far all you have done is blither on about me

again you made this about you not me
You are a one trick pony.
You push climate change denial and the trickle down effect.
This thread shows you follow some ideology and can't discuss the issues sanely.
 
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silentkisser

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again you made this about you not me


you need to support your bullshit claim
and your track record dictates you are a blindly following cultist, you apologise for a moron Justin Trudeau for a whole decade
thus far all you have done is blither on about me

again you made this about you not me
OK, what so-called bullshit claim would you like me to support?

And, I know what I've written in the past about Trudeau. Show me where I've shown him blind loyalty or apologized for things he did? You can't, because it doesn't exist. Yes, I have defended him for certain things, things that a reasonable person (and not a partisan troll) would acknowledge were not his fault. But I've slammed him for some of the stupid shit he's done. Now, I wasn't super political on this board back when Harper was PM. But, I would likely have done the same. You know why? Because I am not a cultist. I can discern between things that went wrong due to forces beyond a PMs control, or know the difference when it is their fault. I don't just blindly say EVERYTHING TRUDEAU/HARPER DID WAS STUPID. You cannot make that claim. You dislike Trudeau. Good for you. I am not a fan. But your hatred of him seems to stem more from partisanship and his reputation. You just don't like being called out on it. Which is surprising for someone who claims not to be in cult...displaying such cult-like behaviour.
 

silentkisser

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no one believes that
you defended Justin Trudeau for a decade of glaring failure and corruption
you are your own worse enemy
Oh, and John, here's a receipt of your making it about me. This is our first interaction in this thread. You are just a sad little rage troll...So, maybe take a hint and STFU.
 
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JohnLarue

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Oh, and John, here's a receipt of your making it about me. This is our first interaction in this thread. You are just a sad little rage troll...So, maybe take a hint and STFU.
this is exactly what is wrong with the loonie left
they ignore facts and just make up shit that suits them

here is the receipt of you making this about you

post # 54 of this thread

silentkisser
Yesterday at 9:47 AM
I am not a cultist who blindly follows a party.
so yes you made this about you
and instead of trying to defend your blatant and oh so comical lie , you tried to make it about me

you apologised for the walking joke that is Justin Trudeau for a decade
you are guilty as charged and not just a cultist who blindly follows a party.
but a lying untrustworthy cultist who blindly follows a party and is incapable of thinking for your self

You are just a sad little rage troll...So, maybe take a hint and STFU.
that is meaningless coming from a mindless blithering idiot ideologue like you
 

JohnLarue

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OK, what so-called bullshit claim would you like me to support?
this one
I am not a cultist who blindly follows a party.


And, I know what I've written in the past about Trudeau. Show me where I've shown him blind loyalty or apologized for things he did?
you apologised for him for a decade of complete incompetence and corruption


You can't, because it doesn't exist. Yes, I have defended him for certain things, things that a reasonable person (and not a partisan troll) would acknowledge were not his fault
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  • 2016’s Cash for Access Scandal
  • Aga Khan Affair
  • 2017 “Welcome to Canada” Tweet touched off a flood of immigration — both legal and otherwise
  • 2018’s infamous state visit to India
  • accusations that Trudeau has groped a reporter covering a 2000 B.C. fundraiser
  • 2019’s SNC Lavalin Affair
  • blackface.
  • 2020’s WE Charity Scandal
  • 2022’s Freedom Convoy
none of those cover his complete abdication of financial responsibility or concern with debt burden or his disastrous immigration policy
a fucking child trying to create a mess could not have outdone this god damn fool

But I've slammed him for some of the stupid shit he's done.
who you think you are fooling?
each and every time you would apologise for him and tried to bring harper into the conversation

Now, I wasn't super political on this board back when Harper was PM. But, I would likely have done the same. You know why? Because I am not a cultist. I can discern between things that went wrong due to forces beyond a PMs control, or know the difference when it is their fault.
are you really that stupid that you do not understand where the fault of a corrupt fool lies ?


I don't just blindly say EVERYTHING TRUDEAU/HARPER DID WAS STUPID.
are you really that stupid that you do not understand where the fault of a corrupt fool lies ?

HE never understood the responsibilities of his office and never will
He was never qualified for the job


You cannot make that claim. You dislike Trudeau. Good for you. I am not a fan. But your hatred of him seems to stem more from partisanship and his reputation. You just don't like being called out on it. Which is surprising for someone who claims not to be in cult...displaying such cult-like behaviour.
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more incorrect blither about me

you are guilty as charged and not just a cultist who blindly follows a party.
but a lying untrustworthy cultist who blindly follows a party and is incapable of thinking for your self

take an ethics course , so you can identify a corrupt fool and learn to think for yourself
 

Frankfooter

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this one





you apologised for him for a decade of complete incompetence and corruption


.
  • 2016’s Cash for Access Scandal
  • Aga Khan Affair
  • 2017 “Welcome to Canada” Tweet touched off a flood of immigration — both legal and otherwise
  • 2018’s infamous state visit to India
  • accusations that Trudeau has groped a reporter covering a 2000 B.C. fundraiser
  • 2019’s SNC Lavalin Affair
  • blackface.
  • 2020’s WE Charity Scandal
  • 2022’s Freedom Convoy
none of those cover his complete abdication of financial responsibility or concern with debt burden or his disastrous immigration policy
a fucking child trying to create a mess could not have outdone this god damn fool


who you think you are fooling?
each and every time you would apologise for him and tried to bring harper into the conversation



are you really that stupid that you do not understand where the fault of a corrupt fool lies ?




are you really that stupid that you do not understand where the fault of a corrupt fool lies ?

HE never understood the responsibilities of his office and never will
He was never qualified for the job



more incorrect blither about me

you are guilty as charged and not just a cultist who blindly follows a party.
but a lying untrustworthy cultist who blindly follows a party and is incapable of thinking for your self

take an ethics course , so you can identify a corrupt fool and learn to think for yourself
Wow, still living in the past?
None of those were real scandals that touched the liberals.

Not like the Greenbelt Scandal, Ontario Place Spa, selling off assets to donors, moving transit and highways for donors and a host of other crap that you think are fine for Doug Ford.

Nothing like any one of a million trump scandals, nothing like Smith's endless scandals in Alberta and nothing like PeePee's waste of taxpayer cash.

As partisan attacks go, this one is old, weak and pathetic.
Much like your presence.
 

DesRicardo

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First, I should note that I worked as a journalist at the Sun. I still have former co-workers and other colleagues that work there. What you fail to understand, and this is the challenge for many who lack the capacity for critical thinking, is that while a media outlet might have a political leaning, they cover the news factually. Even the Sun. They might have editorial leeway to torque things, like headlines and the angle they take. But, the real opinion that you're talking about is from columnists like Joe Warmington, Brian Lilley or Adrian Batra (all three people I worked closely with).

So, you can look at it this way: If they are writing a factual story on, say a shooting, the news side will have all the details, quotes from witnesses and the police. A columnist could take the shooting story and use it as a cudgel to pound an argument about something like the government being soft on crime or immigration. But the thing about columnists is that they do not give both sides of the story. They usually give the paper's take on events and ignore or explain away contradictory evidence.

And, I should point out that I'm not a knee-jerk, conservatives are bad! type. I am not a cultist who blindly follows a party. I've voted both PC & Liberal, and it all depends on the party's policies. I do find it ironic that you would call me out on that when I could easily say the same thing about you being anti-Liberal. But, you probably wouldn't get it...
Well, then that explain all your excess typing. You write filler for a living.

It also explains why you're trying to do this weak persuasive arguing. I don't need to look at anything another way. It's a flip flop.

Like I said I'm going to enjoy every minute of the Liberals rolling back every policy you stood behind when Trudeau was in office and now have to grin from ear to ear.
 
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