Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

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Another Leftie in Vancouver is fired for mocking Kirk's death :D



Tony Herbert, a senior City Hall aide and friend of Mayor Adams, was fired this week after claiming on social media that the killing of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk amounted to “karma,” the Daily News has learned.

Tony Herbert, a perennial political candidate who has served as a community affairs staffer in Adams’ office since February 2022, made the incendiary comment about Kirk in a video posted Thursday on Facebook.
Celebrating people for getting fired? You guys are a shallow, spiteful bunch.

So consequences of free speech extend to getting fired for a private citizens?

Is murder the limit or is assault ok?

Where does the limit on consequences for "free speech" in politics start?
 

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Did this get retracted as well??


Alleged Killer of Charlie Kirk ‘Deeply Indoctrinated with Leftist Ideology,’ Utah Governor Says

Charlie Kirk’s
alleged assassin was “deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” according to Utah Governor Spencer Cox (R).

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal this week, Cox said it’s become “very clear to us and investigators” that Tyler Robinson, the suspected Kirk shooter, was “indoctrinated with leftist ideology.” According to the Journal’s report on Robinson, his parents are registered Republicans while he “was in the past registered as nonpartisan.”

Cox has said that family members described 22-year-old Robinson as becoming more political in recent years. The percentage of the young man’s life spent online also reportedly increased dramatically leading up to the shooting.

Cox previously described Kirk’s killing as clearly a “political assassination.”

Kirk, a 31-year-old conservative activist and founder of Turning Point USA, was shot and killed on Wednesday during an event at Utah Valley University. According to Cox, Robinson and a family member discussed attending the event at a dinner.

“They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” the governor said on Friday.

Debate around Kirk’s suspected shooter’s motivations and politics has become heated as more and more details emerge. The Guardian removed quotes from an article about Robinson this week that identified him as the only “leftist” in his family. The anonymous source who provided the quotes called themselves a high school friend, but questioned their recollections after the article was published.

“Charlie said, ‘When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. He said the weak can never forgive, forgiveness is attribute of the strong, the only way out of the labyrinth of suffering is to forgive,” Cox said this week at a press conference about the killing. ‘Welcome without judgement, love without condition, forgive without limit.'”

So far, the Governor's opinion is just an opinion. I have not seen any other facts except the trans, gay, fascist engraving that was first blamed on libtard idealogy, to actualy being conclusively identified as some Ultra-Right Groyper fuckwits. IIRC, the Governor first bought into that bullshit... then became silent on it.

Whatever. I get it. This hate spewing charletan is a martyr for your hateful cause.

Not much to say about it. Carry on with the celebration and looking forward to there being some right wing nut job getting "payback" by killing some innocent libtard.

Pretty sickening.
 

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Guys on here aren't even praising the killing and are fine the suspect has been caught and some of you keep twisting things as if to encourage some trolling and implement hate into them so perhaps they go off the deep end. Some of us aren't gullible.
That's how I feel too.

I'm coming to realize that I don't like even being in the same virtual room as these people. I can tell that I'd never invite them over for dinner or even let anyone know that I associate with them.
 

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Celebrating people for getting fired? You guys are a shallow, spiteful bunch.

So consequences of free speech extend to getting fired for a private citizens?

Is murder the limit or is assault ok?

Where does the limit on consequences for "free speech" in politics start?
I really don't want people to be fired over any of this. Earlier, I said this about Matthew Dowd's firing. However, you seem locked into this idea that our freedom to speak should never have consequences.

In some instances, some public people have clearly used Kirk's murder to advance their liberal profile. It can be confusing to many of where the limits are because political and media people can profit from rancor. It's not only tolerated it's encouraged.
 
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Celebrating people for getting fired? You guys are a shallow, spiteful bunch.

So consequences of free speech extend to getting fired for a private citizens?

Is murder the limit or is assault ok?

Where does the limit on consequences for "free speech" in politics start?
Sounds like you're more pissed off about a bunch of people getting fired, than over a man losing his life for just his opinions
 

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Conservative leaders who initially rushed to blame “radical left” ideology in right‑wing activist Charlie Kirk’s killing have somewhat softened their tone since the suspect, 22‑year‑old Tyler Robinson of Utah, was identified.

In an article for the Guardian published Saturday, reporter Lauren Aratani noted that while they continue to condemn liberal ideas broadly, many conservatives shifted from harsh ideological indictments to more personal, cautious statements as new details emerged.





According to reports, Robinson's parents are registered Republicans. His own political leanings are still unclear. Authorities found social‑media photos showing him and his family posing with guns.

READ MORE: How Christianity’s 'kook' fringe went mainstream in Trump's MAGA world

The alleged shooter was reportedly raised in a suburban area near St. George, Utah, in what appeared to be a supportive home. He achieved top marks on standardized exams, kept a perfect GPA, and had strong academic standing, as shown by posts from family and friends.

After finishing high school in 2021, he shared a video celebrating his acceptance at Utah State University along with a merit-based scholarship covering four years.

However, he only attended Utah State for one semester before taking a leave and did not return.

Still, some conservatives on social media are claiming he was "radicalized" at the university.





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Meanwhile, Utah’s Gov. Spencer Cox (R) told investigators Robinson was “deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” citing but not detailing what led to that conclusion.

Early reporting claimed bullet casings from the suspect’s gun were engraved with trans‑and‑antifascist ideology, but media outlets later retracted or corrected some of those claims; what remains is that most of the inscriptions are reportedly memes or video‑game references.

Aratani noted that after the suspect’s identity was made public, some conservative critics shifted to emphasizing aspects like mental health, religious faith, or the need for prayer and compassion, rather than solely ideology. Earlier, many were calling for violence and revenge.

Rep. Nancy Mace (R‑S.C.), for instance, moved from demanding the death penalty to urging prayer for Robinson’s soul.




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On Wednesday, the South Carolina Republican said “it’s time to bring back the death penalty” following Kirk’s murder.

But when his alleged murderer's identity was revealed on Friday, Mace said that Kirk “would want us to pray for such an evil and lost individual like Tyler Robinson to find Jesus Christ”.

“We will try to do the same,” she wrote on the social platform X.

The article also noted that White nationalist Nick Fuentes pushed back against suggestions that Robinson was a “Groyper,” a term for one of his followers, after reports surfaced about engravings on the bullets from the alleged shooter’s gun that fueled speculation about his beliefs.

The Groypers have long taken issue with Kirk, frequently heckling him at his events over the perception that Kirk is too centrist.


On social media, Fuentes declared, “Currently being framed for the murder of Charlie Kirk,” though in a streaming video he also said, “I pray to God there is no further violence.”

Despite the softening toward Robinson personally, many conservatives are still using Kirk’s death to attack liberal ideas and institutions, arguing that the broader political culture tolerates or even encourages hateful rhetoric, especially around gender identity and transgender issues.

Aratani highlighted how political narratives can shift when more facts come out: when the suspect was only a statistic or ideological cipher, criticism was sweeping. Once a specific background of the alleged shooter became identified, some of the most extreme rhetoric became more measured.

'Pray to God': How Republican rhetoric changed after Tyler Robinson was identified
 

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It’s actually pretty true. I remember a user on here who seemed quite conservative based off his “fuck Trudeau” type posts. Turns out buddy was posting on the trans section on here asking for info about certain trans escorts. The irony was hilarious
Ya it's the rush Limbaugh effect
 
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a peaceful man with a loving wife and 2 young children has been murdered for saying what he believes in and you are laughing your ass off ???
you are a pathetic excuse for a human being
He was a conniving grifter, using the cover of being a quiet, reasonable Christian. But all the Jesus grifters do that, of course. His wife was his co-grifter and his kids were accessories exploited to aid the grift.
 

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Once I found out what happened with Charlie Kirk. My heart began to hurt. I never meet this man. I am Canadian. I am not a very proud Canadian. I think Canada is becoming a very bad place to live. The liberals, Democrats, The woke are ruining this country. (MHO) just like America. I found Charlie Kirk online watching U tube videos. I agree with a lot of the things he had to say. I do not believe God. Or Jesus. But the things that religious people have. I wish I could have. the family, the love, The respect they have for everyone. They have something that I do not have and wish I could have. This spiritual love and respect. Me I am evil. I have hurt people in the past. Being a bouncer in the 90s fighting is in my blood. I have seen things that you should never see in the bar and in the streets. Gangs, Knives, guns ETC. I have seen Really bad things.
I really respected Charlie Kirk. His death has hurt me bad. I try to stay away from the cpu and the news. I do not want to see anymore. But the news of this hole thing is everywhere. Everyone is talking about it. While I am glad that this is being talked about. Every time it brings tears to my eyes. I feel so sorry for Charlie Kirk, his family, His wife and his kids. OMG his kids !!! what they saw ....AND THEN ....... comes the ANGER..... I want to hurt someone now.. I hope that I do not run into someone that is talking about How CHARLIE KIRK got what was coming to him. I do not have the strength in me to hold back. I am sure that Charlie would not want me, If he knew me, to hurt others like I want to right now. If there is a God or Jesus. Now is the time you need to show me the way. I am lost and filled with hate. This is how I feel. Right now this is the only way I can let out, how I feel. Do any of you feel like I do? I am just living hour by hour right now. But ... my ANGER and HATE is through the roof. I guess I am pouring my heart out hear in the hopes that I can calm down. Either that... OR .. someone give me permission to hurt people.
Because DEEP DOWN that is what I want to do. AGAIN I ask. Do you feel the same as me? How can so many others ( like Charlie Kirk) Religious people, Fill themselves with love and words. While I have HATE, ANGER and willing to cross the line.
Woman Asked Ai What Charlie Kirk Would Say Now From Heaven! .................. I not sure if I have the STRENGH ! Tom MacDonald - CHARLIE ...............................
Move to the US and you can shoot black people and migrants with no repercussions so long as you identify as MAGA
 
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He was a conniving grifter, using the cover of being a quiet, reasonable Christian. But all the Jesus grifters do that, of course. His wife was his co-grifter and his kids were accessories exploited to aid the grift.
Wait, looks like JohnLarue responded to me? I have him on ignore so I couldn't see.
He was supposed to have me on ignore lmfao.
 

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Sounds like you're more pissed off about a bunch of people getting fired, than over a man losing his life for just his opinions
You either don't pick up on the subject of a few sentences or you can't. Or you want to deflect.

How many times do I have to repeat that I think the death of Charlie Kirk is horrifically tragic and wrong?

And I'm not even expressing an opinion on those who lost their jobs over expressing their vile opinions. Least of all joy and :love::love::love::love::love: emojis that whoever optimusprime is the degenerate reincarnation of.

I simply asked where does free speech stop in your world?
 

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I edited it because I wrote 'you' instead of 'your' and I didn't want to be attacked by a grammar nazi. You remember doing stuff like that don't you. ;) :ROFLMAO:
Stop deflecting. You either want him to fuck your wife or he reminds you of your wife. :) Now if you'll excuse me I am going to listen to my Coldplay greatest hit album.
 
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But America wasn't greater in the past.
America was however white supremacist which many uneducated MAGAts feel has been eroded by decades of civil rights improvements preventing them from accomplishing their destinies of becoming millionaires and billionaires.
Ergo, white victim mentality.
Which demographics hold the highest household income in the US. SPOILER ALERT: the top 3 are not white americans. If white supremacy was an ideology of MAGA and Charlie then you would think he would be attacking these groups viciously. Instead he points to them as great examples of americans and how a nation can do better
 
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