Vandals have taken down the Parkside Drive speed camera in Toronto for the third time in recent weeks

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Exactly. You see reckless, aggressive and dangerous driving all over the place (especially highways) unpenalized. And then they ding the poor smuck who happened to step on his accelerator a bit in a radar camera zone.
New slogan: "Cops over cameras!" Because the cameras at 10km/h over don't catch the real offenders. Case in point: On the news this morning a guy who was driving drunk, after being caught driving impaired FIVE FUCKING TIMES IN THE PAST, was in an accident and seriously injured the other driver. Our city budget for cops keeps going up but I see fewer and fewer on the roads anywhere. We need to start taking this shit seriously!
 

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New slogan: "Cops over cameras!" Because the cameras at 10km/h over don't catch the real offenders. Case in point: On the news this morning a guy who was driving drunk, after being caught driving impaired FIVE FUCKING TIMES IN THE PAST, was in an accident and seriously injured the other driver. Our city budget for cops keeps going up but I see fewer and fewer on the roads anywhere. We need to start taking this shit seriously!
Exactly!
 

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Residents in Ontario city are trying to have all speed cameras removed


A growing number of residents in Brampton are pushing back against the city's use of speed enforcement cameras, demanding their complete removal amid rising concerns about surveillance and affordability.

A petition launched by local citizens calls for the immediate dismantling of all Automated Speed Enforcement (ASE) cameras in the city.

"We, the concerned residents and taxpayers of Brampton, Ontario, are demanding the immediate removal of all speed enforcement cameras currently installed across our city!" the petition states.

Brampton currently operates 150 speed cameras, with plans to expand the program to 185 by the end of summer 2025. While city officials argue that ASE helps improve road safety, some residents believe that the growing speed camera network has created a stressful and punitive environment for everyday drivers.

"With the implementation of these speed cameras, we are now living under constant surveillance, creating a stressful and anxious driving environment for law-abiding citizens," the petition continues. "In the midst of an affordability crisis, inflation, rising taxes, and economic pressure, families cannot afford to have their hard-earned money siphoned through automated ticketing systems."

The petition's organizers also argue that the system disproportionately affects working-class residents making their daily commutes.

The campaign, which has garnered over 5,100 signatures at the time of this article's publication, also calls for a halt to any new ASE camera installations, removal of all existing speed cameras in Brampton, full public disclosure of revenue generated and how it's spent, and transparent public consultation before implementing any future enforcement measures.

"We are human. We are not perfect. We are not machines. We are asking for fairness, transparency, and accountability from our elected officials. The grace and discretion once shown by trained officers has been replaced by cold, impersonal technology," the petition concludes.

According to the City of Brampton's website, ASE is an automated system that enforces speed limits using a combination of cameras and speed measurement devices, especially around school zones and community safety zones.

The system captures vehicles that exceed posted speed limits, issuing monetary fines, but no demerit points are added to the driver's record. Fines range from $5/km for speeds 1-19 km/h over the limit, $7.50/km for speeds 20-29 km/h over, and $12/km for speeds 30-49 km/h over.

"To build awareness, signage is installed at entry points in to the city to advise motorists that ASE is in effect and that speeding is not tolerated in the community," the city notes on its website. "Everyone has likely exceeded the speed limit at one time or another, but with clear signage posted, ASE is the reminder we ALL need to slow down and help keep our communities safe."

The latest controversy in Brampton also mimics tensions in Toronto, where speed cameras have faced growing resistance and even flat-out vandalism. Earlier this month, Toronto's Parkside Drive camera, which is arguably the city's most vandalized speed enforcement device, was cut down for the sixth time.

Originally installed in 2021 after a deadly five-car crash, the camera has issued nearly 68,600 traffic tickets, amounting to over $7.3 million in fines. However, some groups argue that the speed camera doesn't do enough in terms of enforcement and promoting road safety.

"Parkside residents continue to sound the alarm and the City of Toronto continues to fail in addressing the dangerous conditions that persist on Parkside Drive," community group Safe Parkside stated earlier this month.

The group highlighted one extreme incident in which a motorist was caught driving 154 km/h, nearly four times the posted speed limit of 40 km/h, "underlining the urgent need for a redesign of this deadly street."
 
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Residents in Ontario city are trying to have all speed cameras removed


A growing number of residents in Brampton are pushing back against the city's use of speed enforcement cameras, demanding their complete removal amid rising concerns about surveillance and affordability.

A petition launched by local citizens calls for the immediate dismantling of all Automated Speed Enforcement (ASE) cameras in the city.

"We, the concerned residents and taxpayers of Brampton, Ontario, are demanding the immediate removal of all speed enforcement cameras currently installed across our city!" the petition states.

Brampton currently operates 150 speed cameras, with plans to expand the program to 185 by the end of summer 2025. While city officials argue that ASE helps improve road safety, some residents believe that the growing speed camera network has created a stressful and punitive environment for everyday drivers.

"With the implementation of these speed cameras, we are now living under constant surveillance, creating a stressful and anxious driving environment for law-abiding citizens," the petition continues. "In the midst of an affordability crisis, inflation, rising taxes, and economic pressure, families cannot afford to have their hard-earned money siphoned through automated ticketing systems."

The petition's organizers also argue that the system disproportionately affects working-class residents making their daily commutes.

The campaign, which has garnered over 5,100 signatures at the time of this article's publication, also calls for a halt to any new ASE camera installations, removal of all existing speed cameras in Brampton, full public disclosure of revenue generated and how it's spent, and transparent public consultation before implementing any future enforcement measures.

"We are human. We are not perfect. We are not machines. We are asking for fairness, transparency, and accountability from our elected officials. The grace and discretion once shown by trained officers has been replaced by cold, impersonal technology," the petition concludes.

According to the City of Brampton's website, ASE is an automated system that enforces speed limits using a combination of cameras and speed measurement devices, especially around school zones and community safety zones.

The system captures vehicles that exceed posted speed limits, issuing monetary fines, but no demerit points are added to the driver's record. Fines range from $5/km for speeds 1-19 km/h over the limit, $7.50/km for speeds 20-29 km/h over, and $12/km for speeds 30-49 km/h over.

"To build awareness, signage is installed at entry points in to the city to advise motorists that ASE is in effect and that speeding is not tolerated in the community," the city notes on its website. "Everyone has likely exceeded the speed limit at one time or another, but with clear signage posted, ASE is the reminder we ALL need to slow down and help keep our communities safe."

The latest controversy in Brampton also mimics tensions in Toronto, where speed cameras have faced growing resistance and even flat-out vandalism. Earlier this month, Toronto's Parkside Drive camera, which is arguably the city's most vandalized speed enforcement device, was cut down for the sixth time.

Originally installed in 2021 after a deadly five-car crash, the camera has issued nearly 68,600 traffic tickets, amounting to over $7.3 million in fines. However, some groups argue that the speed camera doesn't do enough in terms of enforcement and promoting road safety.

"Parkside residents continue to sound the alarm and the City of Toronto continues to fail in addressing the dangerous conditions that persist on Parkside Drive," community group Safe Parkside stated earlier this month.

The group highlighted one extreme incident in which a motorist was caught driving 154 km/h, nearly four times the posted speed limit of 40 km/h, "underlining the urgent need for a redesign of this deadly street."
Hope these folks succeed, they make excellent points. Most of the "speeding" these cameras capture are just technical violations in areas where speed limits are often set artificially low.
 

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Hope these folks succeed, they make excellent points. Most of the "speeding" these cameras capture are just technical violations in areas where speed limits are often set artificially low.
Rrrrrright ..........
 

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Don't know where I stand on this...I think if I was a resident in this area I would probably want drivers to observe the speed limit.

One member on here declared he had been already dinged 4 times I believe.

His recklessness is also reflected in his posts on here. A guess its a personality type.

If you constantly show no respect for speed limits it's only a matter of time before you face dire consequences or even worse somebody else does.
 

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Don't know where I stand on this...I think if I was a resident in this area I would probably want drivers to observe the speed limit.

One member on here declared he had been already dinged 4 times I believe.

His recklessness is also reflected in his posts on here. A guess its a personality type.

If you constantly show no respect for speed limits it's only a matter of time before you face dire consequences or even worse somebody else does
But if its a street where people are speeding a lot, and there's a high rate of accidents and deaths, why not install speed bumps?? You'll save lives doing that. You won't save lives by putting speed cameras there
 

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The Parkside Drive speed camera has once again been cut down by vandals — the seventh time in 10 months.

The speed camera was first cut down in November last year after the city approved a complete street redesign of Parkside Drive.

"Residents woke up this morning to discover the speed camera had been felled once again, leaving this dangerous street with little in the form of safety," said Faraz Gholizadeh, co-chair of the community group Safe Parkside, in a statement Sunday.




Toronto police said they received a report of vandalism to the speed camera on Sunday morning, and suspect that it occurred overnight. They say it's a mischief investigation.

The speed camera was installed in 2022 after a speeding motorist killed an elderly couple in a five-vehicle crash.

It's since become one of the most frequent targets for vandals. It was last cut down in July, one week after a security camera was installed next to it.

Residents have long criticized the street as dangerous, citing heavy traffic and speeding drivers.

Parkside Drive speed camera vandalized for 7th time in 10 months
 

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7th time :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Keep up the good work, boys (y)
Don't the police have another camera watching the speed camera? At this point, the government looks completely incompetent. Maybe they should rename it to the Sankofa camera.
 

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Don't know where I stand on this...I think if I was a resident in this area I would probably want drivers to observe the speed limit.

One member on here declared he had been already dinged 4 times I believe.

His recklessness is also reflected in his posts on here. A guess its a personality type.

If you constantly show no respect for speed limits it's only a matter of time before you face dire consequences or even worse somebody else does.
I had to drive by there a few times this week to help a friend with her Mom's house. That area is fucking insane, they need cameras there AND ADD speed bumps, people have lost their damn minds over there.
Like you said, it's a matter of time before the driver or someone else pays for it. It's as bad as the city claims and I'm actually for the camera there.
 
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