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Same thing as when you say what happened while not there either...
I can say what the jury determined.

But, fair enough, no one should ever be prosecuted for a crime because no investigators or juries were there and cannot therefore conclude anything.
It's a bold position for you to take.
 
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WyattEarp

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To be fair I don't consider 90% of politicians adequately qualified for their elected positions so that just makes him the norm at this point.

Clearly he had some relationship with epstein much the same as almost every actor, sport star and important political figures. Until we have proof of what's what all we can do is speculate which is pointless.
That sums it up. Was Trudeau a teacher really qualified to run Canada? Do people really think he understood what was happening with the Canadian government (rapid expansion) and the economy (stagnation)? Or was he fooled by his own rhetoric?

Then that brings us around to Joe Biden. It's possible that he was qualified to be President at one point in his career. It became increasingly obvious that he was not governing the country as we normally expect of a President. The Biden Administration can best be described as being run by a committee with Biden having limited control.

Now I agree with Schlong on his assessment of U.S. celebrity culture. What always gets lost though in the media coverage is when Trump was just a well-known New York businessman he was publicly discussing his political views. Like Trump or not, he has always had an agenda and clear ideas.

In fact some of our membership were arguing that Trump did not have any policies or an agenda in 2016 beyond his views on the border. He was then hamstrung with allegations and the bureaucracy. It's pretty clear in retrospect that Trump has an agenda and clear ideas for governing. You can like his policies or not, but that's not the question here.
 
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The Biden Administration can best be described as being run by a committee with Biden having limited control.
That is how governments are usually run.
You have cabinets, aides and advisors for a reason.
The reason being that most Presidents are not actually qualified to make decisions about most things, and rely heavily on the advice and recommendations of their team.
Trump is just the exception where he does/says whatever he wants and his band of yes men run around trying to intellectualize and explain away his deranged gobbledygook to make it more palatable for his cultish base.
 

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That sums it up. Was Trudeau a teacher really qualified to run Canada? Do people really think he understood what was happening with the Canadian government (rapid expansion) and the economy (stagnation)? Or was he fooled by his own rhetoric?

Then that brings us around to Joe Biden. It's possible that he was qualified to be President at one point in his career. It became increasingly obvious that he was not governing the country as we normally expect of a President. The Biden Administration can best be described as being run by a committee with Biden having limited control.

Now I agree with Schlong on his assessment of U.S. celebrity culture. What always gets lost though in the media coverage is when Trump was just a well-known New York businessman he was publicly discussing his political views. Like Trump or not, he has always had an agenda and clear ideas.

In fact some of our membership were arguing that Trump did not have any agenda in 2016. He was then hamstrung with allegations and the bureaucracy. It's pretty clear in retrospect that Trump has an agenda and clear ideas for governing. You can like his policies or not.
Sure, trump has an agenda.
Get rich whatever it takes.

The question is why you would think that would serve the rest of the country.
 

WyattEarp

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That is how governments are usually run.
You have cabinets, aides and advisors for a reason.
The reason being that most Presidents are not actually qualified to make decisions about most things, and rely heavily on the advice and recommendations of their team.
Trump is just the exception where he does/says whatever he wants and his band of yes men run around trying to intellectualize and explain away his deranged gobbledygook to make it more palatable for his cultish base.
Please Shaq stop.

If Biden was not fit to run for the Presidency, at some point he was not fit to be President.
We can't pretend 2024 didn't happen.
 

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That is how governments are usually run.
You have cabinets, aides and advisors for a reason.
The reason being that most Presidents are not actually qualified to make decisions about most things, and rely heavily on the advice and recommendations of their team.
Trump is just the exception where he does/says whatever he wants and his band of yes men run around trying to intellectualize and explain away his deranged gobbledygook to make it more palatable for his cultish base.
You think Trump was wrong about the border?
YOu think Trump was wrong about biological men in women's sports?
Hi economic policy garnered record high tariff revenue...
Pledges from allies to raise NATO spendings,
Pledges from allies to invest in US
Even Apple is opening manufacturing in the US.
Big Auto is bringing manufacturing back in the US
yes...he's the exception...
 

Frankfooter

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You think Trump was wrong about the border?
YOu think Trump was wrong about biological men in women's sports?
Hi economic policy garnered record high tariff revenue...
Pledges from allies to raise NATO spendings,
Pledges from allies to invest in US
Even Apple is opening manufacturing in the US.
Big Auto is bringing manufacturing back in the US
yes...he's the exception...
another meltdown?


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Shaquille Oatmeal

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You think Trump was wrong about the border?
YOu think Trump was wrong about biological men in women's sports?
Hi economic policy garnered record high tariff revenue...
Pledges from allies to raise NATO spendings,
Pledges from allies to invest in US
Even Apple is opening manufacturing in the US.
Big Auto is bringing manufacturing back in the US
yes...he's the exception...
You think Trump was wrong about the border? - Yes.
YOu think Trump was wrong about biological men in women's sports? - Yes.
Hi economic policy garnered record high tariff revenue... - He imposed a tax on the American tax payer and stole money from them at a time of great economic difficulty and uncertainty.
Pledges from allies to raise NATO spendings, - They are a pledge, just like the 2% prior to that was a pledge. Nothing changed.
Pledges from allies to invest in US - Pledges. Not contracts. No accomplishments.
Even Apple is opening manufacturing in the US. - Commitment to invest - not yet materialized.
Big Auto is bringing manufacturing back in the US - No, it is not. Overstatements.
 

richaceg

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You think Trump was wrong about the border? - Yes.
YOu think Trump was wrong about biological men in women's sports? - Yes.
Hi economic policy garnered record high tariff revenue... - He imposed a tax on the American tax payer and stole money from them at a time of great economic difficulty and uncertainty.
Pledges from allies to raise NATO spendings, - They are a pledge, just like the 2% prior to that was a pledge. Nothing changed.
Pledges from allies to invest in US - Pledges. Not contracts. No accomplishments.
Even Apple is opening manufacturing in the US. - Commitment to invest - not yet materialized.
Big Auto is bringing manufacturing back in the US - No, it is not. Overstatements.
You think Trump was wrong about border - open border is what sent him to the whitehouse...LoL
You think Trump was wrong about biological men in women's sports - lol they are starting to ban them now...LoL
Hi economic policy garnered record high tariff revenue... - He imposed a tax on the American tax payer and stole money from them at a time of great economic difficulty and uncertainty. - TDS alert!
Pledges and commitments don't happen overnight...
 

WyattEarp

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Neither Biden, nor Trump are fit to be President.
Except the American voters decided Biden was not fit.
Well, not exactly.
The Biden cabal was pressured by influential Democrats to end the charade of the campaign.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You think Trump was wrong about border - open border is what sent him to the whitehouse...LoL
You think Trump was wrong about biological men in women's sports - lol they are starting to ban them now...LoL
Hi economic policy garnered record high tariff revenue... - He imposed a tax on the American tax payer and stole money from them at a time of great economic difficulty and uncertainty. - TDS alert!
Pledges and commitments don't happen overnight...
There was no open border.
There are 10 transgender athletes amongst 500,000 college athletes. This was a solution in search of a problem which is now subject of many court cases.
And yes, tariffs are paid by the American taxpayer. So it is a tax on the tax payer.
Oh of course they don't happen overnight. Or they don't happen ever.
COPE!
 

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I realize you spend a lot of time questioning your sexuality but honestly that's a question you have to find the answer to on your own. Now, in my opinion yes, it is but the best way to come to a solid conclusion is to give it a try and and see how you feel afterwards. Since I already have my opinion formed and am certain beyond a reasonable doubt I don't need to go to those lengths to get an answer. Thanks for sharing your inquiry, it helps me better understand what goes on in that head of yours. Hey Dave, it's past noon, Cheers! 🍻
No questions here. I find it funny you have sex with shemales yet you align with conservatives. Not surprising however considering you people all seem to do in private what you rally against in public
 

WyattEarp

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The American voters decided that their obsession with race, gender and sexual orientation was more important than not electing a rapist and convicted felon to office. Go figure.
What if history proves that the obsession with race, gender and sexual orientation belonged to people like yourself?

Maybe we all won't be here, but I would try to be less dogmatic in your views of such things. I wouldn't want for you to become an angry old man certain he was right and everyone was wrong.
 

richaceg

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There was no open border.
There are 10 transgender athletes amongst 500,000 college athletes. This was a solution in search of a problem which is now subject of many court cases.
And yes, tariffs are paid by the American taxpayer. So it is a tax on the tax payer.
Oh of course they don't happen overnight. Or they don't happen ever.
COPE!
COPE!
There was no open border....NOW
Tariffs aren't paid by taxpayers LoL...manufacturers take the hit hence they chose to open manufacturing in the US...
Biological men dominated and broke records in women's sports...while being mediocre in men's sports (when they competed there) LoL and no Biological men don't transform into women because of feelings...
nothing wrong with fucking trans or penis fencing if that's how you roll...
 
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