Wealth inequality psychological study

kona

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I could be more compassionate, but I lost that years ago. Too many damn scammers out there. I remember giving money to that damn shaky lady at Union Station and it turned out that it was all a scam. Gave money to some dude who I thought was in a bind and it turned out to be a scam. Now I give money to no one. I feel so resentful towards all these people out there who take freely but give little in return. I hate paying taxes to fund crap like $1 daycare, tampons in the guys bathroom or fund sexwork the musical.
 

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I could be more compassionate, but I lost that years ago. Too many damn scammers out there. I remember giving money to that damn shaky lady at Union Station and it turned out that it was all a scam. Gave money to some dude who I thought was in a bind and it turned out to be a scam. Now I give money to no one. I feel so resentful towards all these people out there who take freely but give little in return. I hate paying taxes to fund crap like $1 daycare, tampons in the guys bathroom or fund sexwork the musical.
What is it about 1$ daycare that bothers you? I am curious.
 

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The Bezo's wedding will be marked as the great divider of our era between the rich who do not give a fucking fuck about the poor.

A recent book, Society of Provocation, is getting popular on the subject. For me, you can see the complete ridiculousness of these people looking at Jeff Bezos, who, despite being uglier than an octopus thinks he's Brad Pitt, and more specifically, the artificial face of Lauren Sanchez. A troubling face. Pretty sure, it's not a face but a mask she's wearing...

A face that defines ultra-capitalism.
 

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Is this how he's supposed to live?

Only the face of those that become successful. You just don't hear about the other million Bezos that tried but didn't create an Amazon of their own.

Google gave me this:
Jeff Bezos has committed to donating the majority of his wealth to charitable causes, with a focus on climate change and supporting organizations addressing homelessness. He's established the Bezos Earth Fund with a $10 billion commitment to combat climate change. .. Additionally, the Bezos Day 1 Families Fund has granted over $640 million to organizations helping families experiencing homelessness.
I seen a video - a collage - in one video Amazon workers crying outside the building because they got replaced by automation or robots or AI now.
 

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What is it about 1$ daycare that bothers you? I am curious.
What bothers me is the government forcing me to contribute to the care of someone else's child. It is not even needs based...My Brother in law and his husband both work for Fed Gov't as lawyer and in Finance making good money and have big fat DB pensions and they are in the program. Problem is that I see myself paying and paying, yet I get very little to nothing in return. As we travel down the road towards socialism, I become more bitter and resentful.
 
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jalimon

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What bothers me is the government forcing me to contribute to the care of someone else's child. It is not even needs based...My Brother in law and his husband both work for Fed Gov't as lawyer and in Finance making good money and have big fat DB pensions and they are in the program. Problem is that I see myself paying and paying, yet I get very little to nothing in return. As we travel down the road towards socialism, I become more bitter and resentful.
Contributing to our society for the health and wellness of children, and to make it easier to have some, is essential to the quality of life.

A capitalist society needs a lot of socialist contributions to be healthy, safe, and livable.
 
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What bothers me is the government forcing me to contribute to the care of someone else's child. It is not even needs based...My Brother in law and his husband both work for Fed Gov't as lawyer and in Finance making good money and have big fat DB pensions and they are in the program. Problem is that I see myself paying and paying, yet I get very little to nothing in return. As we travel down the road towards socialism, I become more bitter and resentful.

It gets better, we need to increase our military budget "because Russia" and we need to help Ukraine "because Russia".
Elbows up bro!!
 
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Is this how he's supposed to live?




Bezos doesn't think he's Pitt nor attractive.

Someone must have reminded him that he's wealthy and there's more to life than working. He seems to have taken it to heart and is enjoying life in a way that only someone with his wealth can.

The man created a great service that I've used countless times because it's super convenient. I bet you have, too.



Only the face of those that become successful. You just don't hear about the other million Bezos that tried but didn't create an Amazon of their own.

Google gave me this:
Jeff Bezos has committed to donating the majority of his wealth to charitable causes, with a focus on climate change and supporting organizations addressing homelessness. He's established the Bezos Earth Fund with a $10 billion commitment to combat climate change. .. Additionally, the Bezos Day 1 Families Fund has granted over $640 million to organizations helping families experiencing homelessness.
The whole "billionaires" giving their wealth away, The Promise Pledge or whatever it's called, is incredibly hard to believe.

One comment I read somewhere a person believe that it was simply to have people think and believe that they have good intentions with their wealth so that people don't start to collectively rebel, fight or rise against them - "Oh they made a promise to give away their money. They're good people, leave them alone" kinda thing. Wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.
What we do see is them living lavishly, what we actually don't see is those billions doing any actual good.
 

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I see it doing actual good when I get same day delivery shopping on Amazon.

If he wasn't doing actual good, nobody would be using his service and he wouldn't have billions in the bank.

Article from 2023: https://www.forbes.com/sites/phoebe...n-to-help-families-experiencing-homelessness/

"The latest round of charitable donations brings his total giving to an estimated $3 billion, just under 2% of his net worth"
It's Forbes, I don't trust any mainstream media source.
 

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I think part of it stems from the fact that there are countless people in need, countless scammers and you feel almost bad that you are OK. When you dare to care about someone, then their hardship also hurts you. And even if you help them it strips them of some dignity. 🤷‍♂️😞
 
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What bothers me is the government forcing me to contribute to the care of someone else's child. It is not even needs based...My Brother in law and his husband both work for Fed Gov't as lawyer and in Finance making good money and have big fat DB pensions and they are in the program. Problem is that I see myself paying and paying, yet I get very little to nothing in return. As we travel down the road towards socialism, I become more bitter and resentful.
I can sleep at night supporting 1$ Daycare. There has to balance in a capitalist society. Or would you prefer having the great unwashed breaking down your door and taking you to the guillotine.

 
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What’s the difference between a porcupine and a BMW? The porcupine has its prick on the outside, the BMW has its prick on the inside.

What’s the difference between a Harley and a Hoover? The Hoover has a dirtbag inside, the Harley has the dirtbag hanging outside.

These two jokes demonstrate that with wealth, power and fear people can often become arrogant and lose compassion for others.

Wealth can shield individuals from the consequences of their actions, power can make them feel untouchable, and fear can be used as a tool to silence dissent. What begins as confidence can morph into entitlement. Decisions become more self-serving. Empathy becomes inconvenient. Trump is a good example of a person that has no compassion for others.
 
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Extreme wealth eventually becomes meaningless. It has zero effect on their lifestyle, except perhaps for bragging rights, respect etc - pride. But the wealth literally cannot be spent, or more importantly, used personally.

Suppose a , lets say, $25 billionaire goes to $50 billion.

Now, I say, so what? Suppose as a result of that he buys 100 castles, beautiful islands, properties in all the top cities in the world, whatever. He still can only be in one place at one time. The time he is NOT at all those places, does he really own them?

The wealth is inevitably tied up in a business. It provides employment, services, goods, plus a while host of benefits to suppliers etc.

Now, lets talk about steak.

I am not 100% sure, but I believe that perhaps Waygu beef is the best in the world.

That's it! You can't get any better after that! It might be $200 per steak, but you, me, no-one can eat better steak after that! Oh, people might TRY to eat better than that! They might sprinkle gold flakes on it, like they used to do in Japan in the 80's. But that doesn't change the fact that, for its intended purpose, you can't eat better steak.

If you ignore things that are extraordinarily expensive purely to pander to the need to show how well off you are, there comes a point where you can't go any further.

Now, lets get back to my original idea. Why not then TAKE that $25 billion, and distribute it to everyone else? If it doesn't make any difference to the $50 billionaire, its win/no change, right, not win/lose?

Well, you have now substituted CONSUMPTION for INVESTMENT. Some people believe that the two are the same, but they are not.

investment drives productivity, and productivity is the ONLY thing that determines our standard of living.

At some point wealth cannot be consumed, so it has to be invested. And the private sector generally invests in something profitable. Since private sector transactions are voluntary, investment therefore must lead to a business either inventing something new, or inventing a way to produce something cheaper, and in both cases, they must PERSUADE consumers to use it. if so, standards of living increase.
 

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You can't help somebody who can;t help themselves.
The only people worth help out are those born with pyhsical disabilities.
People on the street, you dug your hole, dig yourself out.
 
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nottyboi

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What bothers me is the government forcing me to contribute to the care of someone else's child. It is not even needs based...My Brother in law and his husband both work for Fed Gov't as lawyer and in Finance making good money and have big fat DB pensions and they are in the program. Problem is that I see myself paying and paying, yet I get very little to nothing in return. As we travel down the road towards socialism, I become more bitter and resentful.
That does not bother me, fact is that its been shown subsidized daycare ($10 a day) actually grows the economy more then it costs, so these social programs actually make financial sense.
 

nottyboi

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You can't help somebody who can;t help themselves.
The only people worth help out are those born with pyhsical disabilities.
People on the street, you dug your hole, dig yourself out.
Many people are able to dig themselves out with some help. From what I can tell, many social workers seem to just facilitate then rehabilitate. Substance abuse, mental health, these are major causes.
 
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