G7 statement acknowledges the need to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon and explicitly supports Israel’s right to defend itself

mellowjello

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There is a difference, the Jews did not attack. They were simply slaughtered becuase they were Jews.
Whether you think Israel did anything to provoke an attack or not is not the point.
Your comment in reference to 400,000 deaths in Gaza was in relation to numbers, not motive.
Nope, buts its certainly not a genocide because the outcome should be way worse if it was.
So here's my question again, at that moment when only 500,000 Jews were killed in concentration camps, are you saying there was no Holocaust taking place?
 

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I have read it.
There are no statements about killing Jews just because they are Jews either.
What a conundrum... you've read the doctrine but missed the part where they said kill the jews?
Hamas is an Arabic acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement. It has called on members of the other two Abrahamic faiths—Judaism and Christianity—to accept Islamic rule in the Middle East. “It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror,” it decreed. Hamas also rejected any prospect of peace or coexistence with the state of Israel. “Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

Goals of the HAMAS: ------------------ 'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.' (Article 6) On the Destruction of Israel: ----------------------------- 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble) The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area: ---------------------------------------- 'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.' (Article 11) 'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.' (Article 13) The Call to Jihad: ------------------ 'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15) 'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.' (Article 33) Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement: ------------------------------------------- '[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13) Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty: ---------------------------------------------- 'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle. ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32) Anti-Semitic Incitement: ------------------------ 'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7) 'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.' (Article 22) 'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32) 'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'


Hamas never entertained ceasefire...they want as much blood as they can....at the expense of their own civilians.
 

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What a conundrum... you've read the doctrine but missed the part where they said kill the jews?
Hamas is an Arabic acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement. It has called on members of the other two Abrahamic faiths—Judaism and Christianity—to accept Islamic rule in the Middle East. “It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror,” it decreed. Hamas also rejected any prospect of peace or coexistence with the state of Israel. “Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

Goals of the HAMAS: ------------------ 'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.' (Article 6) On the Destruction of Israel: ----------------------------- 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble) The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area: ---------------------------------------- 'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.' (Article 11) 'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.' (Article 13) The Call to Jihad: ------------------ 'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15) 'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.' (Article 33) Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement: ------------------------------------------- '[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13) Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty: ---------------------------------------------- 'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle. ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32) Anti-Semitic Incitement: ------------------------ 'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7) 'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.' (Article 22) 'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32) 'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'


Hamas never entertained ceasefire...they want as much blood as they can....at the expense of their own civilians.
I already read it.
My question was about "just because they are Jews.
What does that mean?
 
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In Frankies world, it never happened. All those videos and pictures you see are photo-shopped or AI.
He's actually an AI bot. One of the test versions that they forgot to turn off. Programmed to respond to any comment in any thread with:
"genocide",
"Zionists",
"the planet's on fire",
"Doug Ford",
"Trump"
...in any combination regardless of the topic.
 
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As far as I remember you're one of the top Jew haters here on Terb. I doubt there's anyone more full of hatred than you than perhaps Frank and Klatuu/Dan very sick. But now you're taking a huge beating and hopefully they'll finish with the Iranian dictators soon and you'll have to find something else to squeal about. lol
I am taking a beating? What makes you think I give a fuck about the Mullahs. Iran is to the USA/Israel what Ukraine is to Russia. USA cannot pivot to China while at war with Iran, so what do you think is likely to happen? 🤣 I only care about Iran, because of the great people of Iran. The govt I don't really care about. But who else has been able to drop 1T warhead on Isreal on a regular basis. It will come down to how many Iran has, and how long they can maintain the pressure. I have no idea how many missiles they have. But they will need a few thousand at least to stave off Israel. I don't hate Jews, I despise zionists, and their supporters and all babykillers and their supporters.
 
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He didn't "demand" surrender. He suggested it. US are on the brink of war alongside Israel if Iran does not come into the table (which looks like they won't). It's no secret where US, France & UK (perhaps Canada) will side when all this escalates. Iran's interests clashes with the western bloc. What Iran needs to understand is a war with Israel is a no win situation. a coup d etat will most likely happen before this turns world war. Until I see US war jets are on the air, this is still an Israel-Iran war.
I am pretty sure Russia and China have Diego Garcia under constant surveillance, they will give Iran the heads up when they launch
 
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I`m sure everyone understands the total possibilities of using nukes, even fallout coming back on one`s own country. Not to mention escalation into a global scenario in short order. How much of that is overridden by hatred and rage,.. who knows.
Every country in the middle east will understand that the only security from Israel/US is to do a North Korea and build the bomb.
Israel used the US negotiations to stall and prep for their attack.

The US isn't trustworthy.
The IAEA now isn't trustworthy.

Its all about having the bomb.

 
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I don't know why you are even in this conversation if you don't know what I mean....have you read the Hamas doctrine? it specifically says. kill all jews, There are no statements about revenge or payback...just kill them because they are Jews.
No, el risitas, it does not say that.

And in the every accusation is a confession discussion, Israel is committing genocide.
Clearly you think genocide is acceptable if you hate another race enough.

 
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What a conundrum... you've read the doctrine but missed the part where they said kill the jews?
Hamas is an Arabic acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement. It has called on members of the other two Abrahamic faiths—Judaism and Christianity—to accept Islamic rule in the Middle East. “It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror,” it decreed. Hamas also rejected any prospect of peace or coexistence with the state of Israel. “Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

Goals of the HAMAS: ------------------ 'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.' (Article 6) On the Destruction of Israel: ----------------------------- 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble) The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area: ---------------------------------------- 'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.' (Article 11) 'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.' (Article 13) The Call to Jihad: ------------------ 'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15) 'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.' (Article 33) Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement: ------------------------------------------- '[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13) Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty: ---------------------------------------------- 'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle. ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32) Anti-Semitic Incitement: ------------------------ 'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7) 'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.' (Article 22) 'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32) 'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'


Hamas never entertained ceasefire...they want as much blood as they can....at the expense of their own civilians.
Who did that translation, MEMRI?
The Hamas charter does not include that language.

 
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There is a difference, the Jews did not attack. They were simply slaughtered becuase they were Jews.
While Israel slaughters Palestinians just because they are Palestinian and living in Palestine.

Killing 50 people a day by starving them and shooting them when they get food is morally no different than putting 50 people a day in a gas chamber.

 
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He didn't "demand" surrender. He suggested it. US are on the brink of war alongside Israel if Iran does not come into the table (which looks like they won't). It's no secret where US, France & UK (perhaps Canada) will side when all this escalates. Iran's interests clashes with the western bloc. What Iran needs to understand is a war with Israel is a no win situation. a coup d etat will most likely happen before this turns world war. Until I see US war jets are on the air, this is still an Israel-Iran war.
You're right, trump announced he had totally surrendered to AIPAC.

 

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I am taking a beating? What makes you think I give a fuck about the Mullahs. Iran is to the USA/Israel what Ukraine is to Russia. USA cannot pivot to China while at war with Iran, so what do you think is likely to happen? 🤣 I only care about Iran, because of the great people of Iran. The govt I don't really care about. But who else has been able to drop 1T warhead on Isreal on a regular basis. It will come down to how many Iran has, and how long they can maintain the pressure. I have no idea how many missiles they have. But they will need a few thousand at least to stave off Israel. I don't hate Jews, I despise zionists, and their supporters and all babykillers and their supporters.
Its too late for that, you've already exposed yourself. Usually the anti Israel rant is that its not about the Jews but about Israel. But your statement speaks volume."They are the only religion that takes pride in being booted out of so many countries lol. Kinda like a homeless drug addict saying "people just don't understand me."
With you its clearly about the Jews, no doubt. Otherwise you would be obsessed with so many ugly and and unjust countries out there.
 

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Its too late for that, you've already exposed yourself. Usually the anti Israel rant is that its not about the Jews but about Israel. But your statement speaks volume."They are the only religion that takes pride in being booted out of so many countries lol. Kinda like a homeless drug addict saying "people just don't understand me."
With you its clearly about the Jews, no doubt. Otherwise you would be obsessed with so many ugly and and unjust countries out there.
Do you think all Jews support the genocide?
 

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Its too late for that, you've already exposed yourself. Usually the anti Israel rant is that its not about the Jews but about Israel. But your statement speaks volume."They are the only religion that takes pride in being booted out of so many countries lol. Kinda like a homeless drug addict saying "people just don't understand me."
With you its clearly about the Jews, no doubt. Otherwise you would be obsessed with so many ugly and and unjust countries out there.
I have only seen zionists say that on behalf of Jews. Typically when they are booted out its the Zionists and extremists. What do you say of the Iranian jews that condemn Israel?
 
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Its too late for that, you've already exposed yourself. Usually the anti Israel rant is that its not about the Jews but about Israel. But your statement speaks volume."They are the only religion that takes pride in being booted out of so many countries lol. Kinda like a homeless drug addict saying "people just don't understand me."
With you its clearly about the Jews, no doubt. Otherwise you would be obsessed with so many ugly and and unjust countries out there.
Bingo
 
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Here is the shocking source of the translation. Scroll to the bottom of the link.

‘Information Division, Israel Foreign Ministry - Jerusalem Mail all Queries to ask@israel-info.gov.il URL: http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il gopher://israel-info.gov.il’

But you know, everything published by Israel is the gods truth just like the 10 commandments and what the burning bush said.
 
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