Show me one legitimate scientist that explicitly states that a 4°C of warming would kill off the planet. You're getting suckered by these alarmists.
AMOC shutdown - the reason for the cold spring?
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Its $29 billion a year.
Renewables are more reliable than oil from OPEC or the states.
You have to be pretty clueless to think there are no plans for storage for solar/wind.
Whatever, the Koch Bros, MBS and Putin, along with oil$gas have put the planet on a path that will likely kill your kids.
Its whether or not you're a willing participant at this point.
Its not hard to google 4ºC warming effects.
Comparing climate impacts at 1.5°C, 2°C, 3°C and 4°C | UN Climate Summit News - COP29
On a high emissions pathway, temperatures would rise 1.5°C by around 2026, 2°C by around 2039, 3°C by around 2060 and 4°C by around 2078.
unclimatesummit.org
You can also read the IPCC warnings.
Climate Change 2022: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Working Group II contribution to the Sixth Assessment Report
If renewables were more reliable than fossil fuels then the markets would reflect that. But they aren't and they never will be.
You mean it would show things like 2/3's or all new investment going into renewables over fossil fuels?
A science denier arguing that I'm the one adverse to facts?
amazing
Could oil$gas compete with renewables without all that taxpayer money?
Why do you back wasting tax payer money that just goes to foreign oil companies?
Update: Canada's oil and gas industry received $29.6B in subsidies, financing in 2024, report finds
The subsidies and financing dwarf the previous years total and come as Ottawa said it would wind down direct financial support for the industry
www.biv.com
And by calling me a denier you are avoiding facts and using insult. I don't deny real science, I deny political science masquerading as real science.A science denier arguing that I'm the one adverse to facts?
amazing
Could oil$gas compete with renewables without all that taxpayer money?
Why do you back wasting tax payer money that just goes to foreign oil companies?
Update: Canada's oil and gas industry received $29.6B in subsidies, financing in 2024, report finds
The subsidies and financing dwarf the previous years total and come as Ottawa said it would wind down direct financial support for the industry
That includes government investments. Now do private market. Compare the market cap of fossil fuel companies vs. renewable energy companies.
Of course, you want to judge investment in fuels only using the oil$gas industry's investment.
That's pretty idiotic.
You lost this line of argument, investment in renewables is 2:1 that of the oil$gas industry.
Because its cheaper, cleaner and takes power away from Putin, MBS and trump.
Ok, are these real science or 'political science' and why do you reach that conclusion:
1 - NASA
2 - AAAS
3 - IPCC
calling them 'political science' is denying they are legit science
The IPCC and NASA have science arms and they have political arms. Unfortunately the latter is the stronger arm.
No its because governments have decided that CO2 is pollution so they throw trillions at it to try and stop it. Take government financing out of the equation renewables are probably 1/100 of fossil fuels.
Confirmed, you are a science denier.
You keep repeating ridiculous claims that are so easy to debunk.
If your argument were true then why is Texas, of all states, putting in so much renewables?
They are the most right wing and most unlikely to subsidize renewables.
You're going back too far. The climate started changing a couple months ago when Carney removed the carbon tax. Now the earth is on fire and it's all his fault.
We need to fly Greta over here to fix things.
A reminder, the AMOC shutdown will be a global event that will drastically affect agriculture across the planet.
Texas has been growing rapidly and the demand for electricity has outstripped the supply of gas and coal fired plants. They needed something quick so wind it was. That is generating 29% of their electricity up from 18% only 7 years ago. The problem with that is the grid is as unstable as its ever been and costs have been skyrocketing. ERCOT needs to invest heavily in power storage backup and consumers will be paying big time for that.
The point is that ERCOT invested in renewables, not oil$gas.
If the most right wing state with the best oil$gas resources is buying into wind its not about the speed of the build.
I wouldn't necessarily call Texas the most right wing state. But yes they have made their choice to invest mostly in wind generation. Time will tell whether that was the right decision. I still think natural gas is the wisest option since its more reliable and cheaper. It powers 42% of the current grid.
