Canada’s Role in a Shifting Global Order — with Mark Carney and Prof. Scott Galloway

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You should ask yourself: How do I trust a party that pushed the carbon tax so much that it demonized anyone who dared question it...then suddenly "gets rid of it" on the eve of an election?

The carbon tax is a non issue only drummed by Pierre.
It is not even something to consider as a voting issue.
And Carney was open in addressing it in this very interview if you had cared to watch it.
He said that people were not seeing the usefulness of the rebates and it had become politically unhelpful while not being that important, and therefore it was eliminated.
That was honest enough.
On the other hand, how am I to trust a guy who cannot bring himself to say for example, that in Canada trans women are protected under the law and those are our values?
Why does he engage in double speak?
And this glorified sloganeer, with no prior experience, engaging in double speak is who you trust?

 

[Skoob]

The carbon tax is a non issue only drummed by Pierre.
It is not even something to consider as a voting issue.
And Carney was open in addressing it in this very interview if you had cared to watch it.
He said that people were not seeing the usefulness of the rebates and it had become politically unhelpful while not being that important, and therefore it was eliminated.
That was honest enough.
On the other hand, how am I to trust a guy who cannot bring himself to say for example, that in Canada trans women are protected under the law and those are our values?
Why does he engage in double speak?
And this glorified sloganeer, with no prior experience, engaging in double speak is who you trust?

People weren't seeing the "usefulness" of the rebates because it was a total scam. The rebates did not even come close to making up for the cost of everything that went up due to the carbon tax. You were played.

They knew if they didn't scrap the scam they would lose the election for sure. Years after forcing everyone to pay it.

You were played and continue to be brainwashed. There is no helping you unfortunately.

If they win, they will bring it back and then you will come up with another excuse to accept what they are doing.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

People weren't seeing the "usefulness" of the rebates because it was a total scam. The rebates did not even come close to making up for the cost of everything that went up due to the carbon tax.

I did not care about the carbon tax either way.
It was never a consideration for me. Most Canadians dont care either.
Someone else regurgitated the same reason you've given here a while ago on this thread and I asked them to provide some definitive numbers on how much the cost of their groceries went up after the tax came into effect.
They didn't have any answers as I am sure you don't either.
If you can present some numbers about what % of the price increase was due to the carbon tax, it will be helpful to evaluate your statement.
Otherwise it is just a lie or a slogan without much effect.

 

[wigglee]

People weren't seeing the "usefulness" of the rebates because it was a total scam. The rebates did not even come close to making up for the cost of everything that went up due to the carbon tax. You were played.

They knew if they didn't scrap the scam they would lose the election for sure. Years after forcing everyone to pay it.

You were played and continue to be brainwashed. There is no helping you unfortunately.

If they win, they will bring it back and then you will come up with another excuse to accept what they are doing.

So how much did the carbon tax cost you after the rebate? Probably nothing.... but rail on!

 

[Skoob]

I did not care about the carbon tax either way.
It was never a consideration for me. Most Canadians dont care either.
Someone else regurgitated the same reason you've given here a while ago on this thread and I asked them to provide some definitive numbers on how much the cost of their groceries went up after the tax came into effect.
They didn't have any answers as I am sure you don't either.
If you can present some numbers about what % of the price increase was due to the carbon tax, it will be helpful to evaluate your statement.
Otherwise it is just a lie or a slogan without much effect.

Here's proof as to why I believe you are brainwashed...

If the carbon tax wasn't a big deal, and didn't increase the price of everything, and most Canadians don't care, then why are the Liberals suddenly scrapping it after 6 years?

Hint: it's not because it wasn't marketed properly. (if you believe that then there's more proof)

 

[Skoob]

So how much did the carbon tax cost you after the rebate? Probably nothing.... but rail on!

Everything that relies on fossil fuels increased significantly since the carbon tax was forced onto consumers.
You think that was just a coincidence?
You think the rebate made up for that?

hahahahaha...now I know why that whole ponzi scheme worked on so many! You actually believe it didn't cost you anything. Lol!

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

If the carbon tax wasn't a big deal, and didn't increase the price of everything, and most Canadians don't care, then why are the Liberals suddenly scrapping it after 6 years?

Because it wasn't that effective and only led to a 6% decrease in carbon emissions while being leveraged by Pierre to attack.
So the right decision was to scrap it for both reasons as we have come to find out.
Meanwhile you have still not been able to articulate the actual impact of this carbon tax.
So I ask again.
What was the % increase in grocery prices, due to the carbon tax?

 

[Skoob]

Because it wasn't that effective and only led to a 6% decrease in carbon emissions while being leveraged by Pierre to attack.
So the right decision was to scrap it for both reasons as we have come to find out.
Meanwhile you have still not been able to articulate the actual impact of this carbon tax.
So I ask again.
What was the % increase in grocery prices, due to the carbon tax?

They didn't scrap it until an election was called and they knew they would lose if they kept it. Saving the planet took a back seat very quickly.
Even you are not that gullible to believe otherwise. You are trying your best to not admit their failure and hypocrisy.

So you are trying to say it was a failed experiment and you are ready to vote for the same party and cabinet that tried to pull it off and failed? hahaha yeah right
You were fed a lie and now you are pretending to justify it so you don't look foolish. It's not working.

Liberal apologists are funny when they pretend they weren't fooled.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

They didn't scrap it until an election was called and they knew they would lose if they kept it.

They didn't scrap it until the guy who wanted to scrap it became PM.
I have said many times that the carbon tax only matters to the Pierre supporters.
It was never an election issue for me.
I would vote Carney with or without the carbon tax.
I did not decide to vote against Trudeau because of the carbon tax.

 

[Skoob]

They didn't scrap it until the guy who wanted to scrap it became PM.
I have said many times that the carbon tax only matters to the Pierre supporters.
It was never an election issue for me.
I would vote Carney with or without the carbon tax.
I did not decide to vote against Trudeau because of the carbon tax.

The unelected multi-national who they made PM was a supporter of the carbon tax and pushed it as Trudeau's advisor.

Is the brainwashing also causing you amnesia?

If the Liberals did not cancel the carbon tax they would lose the election on that item alone. They believe in winning elections not helping the environment as they preached for the past decade.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The unelected multi-national who they made PM was a supporter of the carbon tax and pushed it as Trudeau's advisor.

He literally addresses it in the interview.
He says his views havent changed but says the carbon tax was not very effective while being politically unhelpful.
And the guy was unelected, sure.
Which is why he called for an election as soon as he became PM.
He has been honest enough.
You still haven't been able to explain Pierre's double speak and courting MAGA, that seem to run contrary to Canadian values.

 

[Skoob]

He literally addresses it in the interview.
He says his views havent changed but says the carbon tax was not very effective while being politically unhelpful.
And the guy was unelected, sure.
Which is why he called for an election as soon as he became PM.
He has been honest enough.
You still haven't been able to explain Pierre's double speak and courting MAGA, that seem to run contrary to Canadian values.

"Politically unhelpful" meaning the health of the planet takes a backseat to getting elected even though they forced the tax on everyone for years and even labelled people who criticized the tax as being "climate change deniers".

He's a US-loving businessman who has managed to make you think he has Canada's interests at heart, while moving his business to the US and holding 3 citizenships. Do you seriously think he'll remain the leader of the Liberal party if he loses the election? He'll move on the next day.

Don't be a fool.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

"Politically unhelpful" meaning the health of the planet takes a backseat to getting elected...

You left out ineffective.
But expected because of your mental gymnastics.
So yes ineffective because it accounted for only a 6% reduction in carbon emissions.
And politically unhelpful because a tax that has minimal impact on consumers was leveraged to attack, and falsely attribute it to be one of the biggest causes of inflation - inflation that would have existed with or without the carbon tax.
His citizenships are not an issue.
His business interests in the US are not an issue.
Him moving on if he loses the election are not an issue.
The only issue is the far right wing turn the US has taken, its attacks on Canada and the MAGA loving quislings Pierre courts and empowers.
That is #1 priority to defeat them.
We'll know in a couple of days if we were successful.

 

[Skoob]

You left out ineffective.
But expected because of your mental gymnastics.
So yes ineffective because it accounted for only a 6% reduction in carbon emissions.
And politically unhelpful because a tax that has minimal impact on consumers was leveraged to attack, and falsely attribute it to be one of the biggest causes of inflation - inflation that would have existed with or without the carbon tax.
His citizenships are not an issue.
His business interests in the US are not an issue.
Him moving on if he loses the election are not an issue.
The only issue is the far right wing turn the US has taken, its attacks on Canada and the MAGA loving quislings Pierre courts and empowers.
That is #1 priority to defeat them.
We'll know in a couple of days if we were successful.

So it was "ineffective" but they kept increasing it and forcing everyone to pay it for years while demonizing those who criticized it in so far as calling them climate change deniers?

So they pushed a plan until they feared losing an election because their competitor said he would get rid of it if elected. That's the party you trust?

Now they have you distracted with Trump so that you will not remember the past decade and the platform the Liberals have adopted from the Conservatives. A platform that they criticized before they knew they would lose the election.

Apparently the climate doesn't matter any longer?

Is that what the brainwashing program has taught you?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

So it was "ineffective" but they kept increasing it and forcing everyone to pay it for years while demonizing those who criticized it in so far as calling them climate change deniers?
Apparently the climate doesn't matter any longer?

I think it is fair to call a climate change denier a climate change denier, irrespective of their criticism of the carbon tax.
There are many that criticize the carbon tax because they are climate change deniers and calling them as such, isn't demonizing them or inaccurate.
These climate change deniers are also over represented amongst conservatives.
But yes, it was ineffective. And politically unhelpful.
Therefore Carney ended it.
Carney and Trudeau are different PM's and they have their own policies.
As Carney said, climate change still matters.
He has said we need a better system than the carbon tax.
What that will be, we don't yet know.

 

[Frankfooter]

I think it is fair to call a climate change denier a climate change denier, irrespective of their criticism of the carbon tax.
There are many that criticize the carbon tax because they are climate change deniers and calling them as such, isn't demonizing them or inaccurate.
These climate change deniers are also over represented amongst conservatives.
But yes, it was ineffective. And politically unhelpful.
Therefore Carney ended it.
Carney and Trudeau are different PM's and they have their own policies.
As Carney said, climate change still matters.
He has said we need a better system than the carbon tax.
What that will be, we don't yet know.

Climate change deniers are in that wacko 6% of society that are totally anti science.