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And another one bites the dust.
Very few people want an EV. ICE or hybrids are really the only sensible options.
 
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I do not think they failed due to the lack of sales of EV cars. Which is not bad.

It's only that there are many other major players.
 
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bazokajoe said:
And another one bites the dust.
Very few people want an EV. ICE or hybrids are really the only sensible options.
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It seems governments need to subsidize EVs in order to make them attractive to buyers. The feds ended the $5,000 incentive in January, 2025.
 
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Teslas, yes.
Others need a chance.
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Okay, so now you're picking and choosing which companies receive taxpayer funded subsidies, based on the fact you don't like Musk? I don't like him either, but that's a dumb way to decide policy.

And why do they need a chance? If they build a good product, sell it for a competitive price, that people are willing to pay, why should taxpayers be on the hook to subsidize the sale? And don't say, because EVs are saving the planet. Because they're not. It's a stupid argument.
 
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When it comes to Canada, our massive land mass, our cold weather, outside of large cities with infrastructure in and limited distance to travel, they just don't make sense. Add in eventual disposal issues, environmental costs to build, actual lack of space on the electrical grid, need for subsudies, abd probably many more issues.

Cripes I have an E-bike to commute but won't in winter due to salt on the roads. It doesn't go well with lithium batteries.

We should be concentrating on hybrids.
 
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bazokajoe said:
I wonder how many people on this board champion EV vehicles actually own 1.
Probably not many.
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My car is mostly electric but has a range extender, 95% of my driving is electric. Its 10 years old now and I think battery capacities and charge speeds make EVs viable. You can add range to an EV at similar speeds to pumping gas with the latest tech.
 
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Butler1000 said:
When it comes to Canada, our massive land mass, our cold weather, outside of large cities with infrastructure in and limited distance to travel, they just don't make sense. Add in eventual disposal issues, environmental costs to build, actual lack of space on the electrical grid, need for subsudies, abd probably many more issues.

Cripes I have an E-bike to commute but won't in winter due to salt on the roads. It doesn't go well with lithium batteries.

We should be concentrating on hybrids.
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I agree plug ins are a great alternative. But I have one and I will tell you that even with 100KM of range you barely use the gas engine. How often do you drive over 100km in 1 day? Also battery tech is improving rapidly. They have cars that can charge at 600KW that is almost your entire days house usage in 1 min. That means you can add 400km in about 10 min. So while it still takes a bit longer then gas, understand that you will only need to do that on a long drive. Most of the time you will charge at home and not have to waste time at gas stations.
 
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GameBoy27 said:
Okay, so now you're picking and choosing which companies receive taxpayer funded subsidies, based on the fact you don't like Musk? I don't like him either, but that's a dumb way to decide policy.

And why do they need a chance? If they build a good product, sell it for a competitive price, that people are willing to pay, why should taxpayers be on the hook to subsidize the sale? And don't say, because EVs are saving the planet. Because they're not. It's a stupid argument.
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you don't know franky that well...
 
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bazokajoe said:
I wonder how many people on this board champion EV vehicles actually own 1.
Probably not many.
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I'm considering buying a Model Y actually.for short distance driving. I'm driiving a 4 year old Hemi...not so good on gas...my SO's Bronco isn't that great on gas either but at least not as hog as a v8.
 
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