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If Musk's claim holds water, it would signify a terminal rot within the U.S. financial and governmental framework—one beyond reform or salvage. A trillion-dollar hemorrhage would not merely suggest inefficiency; it would confirm a level of systemic grift (corruption) that renders traditional economic levers meaningless.

In such a scenario, the U.S. dollar's role as the world's reserve currency would be built on pure inertia, a hollowed-out relic propped up by outdated trust rather than real value. Comparing it to the Russian ruble—battered by sanctions and mismanagement—or the speculative frenzy of Dutch tulip mania isn't hyperbolic but instructive: the perception of value is all that sustains a currency, and if Musk is right, that perception is nearing collapse.

Trump's alleged move toward cryptocurrency could be read as a harbinger (omen) of this decline—a calculated hedge against the dollar's diminishing credibility. If he truly believes fiat collapse is imminent, then his pivot to crypto aligns with the historical behavior of elites who, sensing a ship sinking, quietly row their lifeboats toward alternative assets before the public catches on.
 

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Or because they are heavily invested they want to do a reverse pump and dump to drive the effect they want to see.
Fuck average people. These guys just don't have enough billions. Loot the treasuries of western countries and find a nice island you can bribe your way onto.
 

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Or because they are heavily invested they want to do a reverse pump and dump to drive the effect they want to see.
Fuck average people. These guys just don't have enough billions. Loot the treasuries of western countries and find a nice island you can bribe your way onto.

Yes, Musk competence - promising the cyber truck what ten times and failing ten times, and then delivering on junk? - his twitter bad investment, his Vacuum train in Las Vegas that never worked after millions wasted . ..
-yes that is in question - the later failures where in his area of expertise - and this is way out of it.
But planing to get rich by tanking the government? Anyone can tank the goverment


how Musk could unethically profit from weakening or destabilizing government institutions for his own businesses. That’s a whole different kind of manipulation—one that leans more into regulatory capture, privatization schemes, and political influence. Here’s how he could pull it off:

1. Undermining Public Transit to Push His Own Solutions

Musk has repeatedly dismissed high-speed rail and traditional public transit, calling it “lame” or “a pain.” Meanwhile, his Las Vegas Loop and Hyperloop concepts—both of which have failed—positioned themselves as alternatives. If he convinces enough people (or governments) that traditional public transit isn’t viable, he can push for contracts and subsidies for his own unproven tech, while real solutions get defunded.

2. Attacking Federal Agencies That Regulate His Businesses

  • SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission): The SEC has fined Musk before for misleading investors (like his infamous “funding secured” tweet). By portraying the SEC as corrupt or unnecessary, he weakens its authority, making it harder to hold him accountable for market manipulation.
  • FAA (Federal Aviation Administration): SpaceX needs regulatory approval for launches, but Musk often complains about delays. If he lobbies for looser oversight or portrays the FAA as an obstacle to progress, he can rush launches without the same level of safety checks.
3. Weakening Labor Protections to Exploit Workers

Musk has a history of opposing unions (Tesla has fought against unionization efforts for years). If he can push for weaker labor laws—through lobbying or direct political influence—he can keep wages low, limit worker protections, and increase his profit margins.

4. Cutting Government Subsidies for Competitors While Taking His Own

Musk frequently criticizes government spending, but Tesla, SpaceX, and SolarCity have all benefited from billions in federal subsidies. If he lobbies to cut funding for competitors (such as traditional automakers shifting to EVs or other space contractors), he removes competition while keeping his own subsidies intact.

5. Promoting Chaos to Crash Markets and Buy Cheap

If Musk can stir political or economic uncertainty (through his platform on X or direct influence), he could potentially profit by shorting stocks, buying assets at low prices, or forcing government bailouts for industries he later takes over.

The Endgame? Privatization & Power

If Musk successfully weakens public institutions while positioning himself as the only viable alternative, he could make massive profits from privatized infrastructure, deregulated industries, and a workforce with fewer rights. In essence, he wouldn’t need to own the government—he’d just need to make sure it’s too weak to stop him.


He’s already using some of these tactics. The real question is: will he succeed, or will government institutions push back?
 

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Yes, Musk competence - promising the cyber truck what ten times and failing ten times, and then delivering on junk? - his twitter bad investment, his Vacuum train in Las Vegas that never worked after millions wasted . ..
-yes that is in question - the later failures where in his area of expertise - and this is way out of it.
But planing to get rich by tanking the government? Anyone can tank the goverment


how Musk could unethically profit from weakening or destabilizing government institutions for his own businesses. That’s a whole different kind of manipulation—one that leans more into regulatory capture, privatization schemes, and political influence. Here’s how he could pull it off:

1. Undermining Public Transit to Push His Own Solutions

Musk has repeatedly dismissed high-speed rail and traditional public transit, calling it “lame” or “a pain.” Meanwhile, his Las Vegas Loop and Hyperloop concepts—both of which have failed—positioned themselves as alternatives. If he convinces enough people (or governments) that traditional public transit isn’t viable, he can push for contracts and subsidies for his own unproven tech, while real solutions get defunded.

2. Attacking Federal Agencies That Regulate His Businesses

  • SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission): The SEC has fined Musk before for misleading investors (like his infamous “funding secured” tweet). By portraying the SEC as corrupt or unnecessary, he weakens its authority, making it harder to hold him accountable for market manipulation.
  • FAA (Federal Aviation Administration): SpaceX needs regulatory approval for launches, but Musk often complains about delays. If he lobbies for looser oversight or portrays the FAA as an obstacle to progress, he can rush launches without the same level of safety checks.
3. Weakening Labor Protections to Exploit Workers

Musk has a history of opposing unions (Tesla has fought against unionization efforts for years). If he can push for weaker labor laws—through lobbying or direct political influence—he can keep wages low, limit worker protections, and increase his profit margins.

4. Cutting Government Subsidies for Competitors While Taking His Own

Musk frequently criticizes government spending, but Tesla, SpaceX, and SolarCity have all benefited from billions in federal subsidies. If he lobbies to cut funding for competitors (such as traditional automakers shifting to EVs or other space contractors), he removes competition while keeping his own subsidies intact.

5. Promoting Chaos to Crash Markets and Buy Cheap

If Musk can stir political or economic uncertainty (through his platform on X or direct influence), he could potentially profit by shorting stocks, buying assets at low prices, or forcing government bailouts for industries he later takes over.

The Endgame? Privatization & Power

If Musk successfully weakens public institutions while positioning himself as the only viable alternative, he could make massive profits from privatized infrastructure, deregulated industries, and a workforce with fewer rights. In essence, he wouldn’t need to own the government—he’d just need to make sure it’s too weak to stop him.


He’s already using some of these tactics. The real question is: will he succeed, or will government institutions push back?
So what you're saying is we need a DOGE in Canada?

I agree.
 

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Yes, Musk competence - promising the cyber truck what ten times and failing ten times, and then delivering on junk? - his twitter bad investment, his Vacuum train in Las Vegas that never worked after millions wasted . ..
-yes that is in question - the later failures where in his area of expertise - and this is way out of it.
But planing to get rich by tanking the government? Anyone can tank the goverment


how Musk could unethically profit from weakening or destabilizing government institutions for his own businesses. That’s a whole different kind of manipulation—one that leans more into regulatory capture, privatization schemes, and political influence. Here’s how he could pull it off:

1. Undermining Public Transit to Push His Own Solutions

Musk has repeatedly dismissed high-speed rail and traditional public transit, calling it “lame” or “a pain.” Meanwhile, his Las Vegas Loop and Hyperloop concepts—both of which have failed—positioned themselves as alternatives. If he convinces enough people (or governments) that traditional public transit isn’t viable, he can push for contracts and subsidies for his own unproven tech, while real solutions get defunded.

2. Attacking Federal Agencies That Regulate His Businesses

  • SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission): The SEC has fined Musk before for misleading investors (like his infamous “funding secured” tweet). By portraying the SEC as corrupt or unnecessary, he weakens its authority, making it harder to hold him accountable for market manipulation.
  • FAA (Federal Aviation Administration): SpaceX needs regulatory approval for launches, but Musk often complains about delays. If he lobbies for looser oversight or portrays the FAA as an obstacle to progress, he can rush launches without the same level of safety checks.
3. Weakening Labor Protections to Exploit Workers

Musk has a history of opposing unions (Tesla has fought against unionization efforts for years). If he can push for weaker labor laws—through lobbying or direct political influence—he can keep wages low, limit worker protections, and increase his profit margins.

4. Cutting Government Subsidies for Competitors While Taking His Own

Musk frequently criticizes government spending, but Tesla, SpaceX, and SolarCity have all benefited from billions in federal subsidies. If he lobbies to cut funding for competitors (such as traditional automakers shifting to EVs or other space contractors), he removes competition while keeping his own subsidies intact.

5. Promoting Chaos to Crash Markets and Buy Cheap

If Musk can stir political or economic uncertainty (through his platform on X or direct influence), he could potentially profit by shorting stocks, buying assets at low prices, or forcing government bailouts for industries he later takes over.

The Endgame? Privatization & Power

If Musk successfully weakens public institutions while positioning himself as the only viable alternative, he could make massive profits from privatized infrastructure, deregulated industries, and a workforce with fewer rights. In essence, he wouldn’t need to own the government—he’d just need to make sure it’s too weak to stop him.


He’s already using some of these tactics. The real question is: will he succeed, or will government institutions push back?
There was an article about whether he can deliver any actual fraud before his followers catch onto the con job he did.
 
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If Musk's claim holds water, it would signify a terminal rot within the U.S. financial and governmental framework—one beyond reform or salvage. A trillion-dollar hemorrhage would not merely suggest inefficiency; it would confirm a level of systemic grift (corruption) that renders traditional economic levers meaningless.

In such a scenario, the U.S. dollar's role as the world's reserve currency would be built on pure inertia, a hollowed-out relic propped up by outdated trust rather than real value. Comparing it to the Russian ruble—battered by sanctions and mismanagement—or the speculative frenzy of Dutch tulip mania isn't hyperbolic but instructive: the perception of value is all that sustains a currency, and if Musk is right, that perception is nearing collapse.

Trump's alleged move toward cryptocurrency could be read as a harbinger (omen) of this decline—a calculated hedge against the dollar's diminishing credibility. If he truly believes fiat collapse is imminent, then his pivot to crypto aligns with the historical behavior of elites who, sensing a ship sinking, quietly row their lifeboats toward alternative assets before the public catches on.
It almost sounds as if you actually didn't compose the above yourself.
 

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It almost sounds as if you actually didn't compose the above yourself.
I did not - I asked What is Musk's Endgame, and that was the response.
 

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probably chatgpt or the like
 
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