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The 2025 Toronto Blue Jays
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The O's have an embarrassment of riches. After graduating a plethora of top prospects including Gunnar Henderson, Jackson Holliday, Grayson Rodriquez, Heston Kjerstad, Colton Cowser and Jordan Westburg, they still have two of the best prospects in the game in Coby Mayo and Samuel Basallo. They are an arm away from the World Series.
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I don’t think this team in 2025 is a last place team. Might have a chance at the third wildcard. The question is at the trade deadline what do they consider for being out of it? How many games back will that be and then that absolutely puts Guerrero on the trading block. And once Guerrero is traded, he will never look back at the organization that didn’t value him to his liking.
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IMHO, it just depends if players like BO and Scherzer can stay healthy. The Red Sox really improved themselves this yr, and the Yankees and Baltimore are way better then the Jays. I guess it will probably be between the Jays and Tampa, to battle it out for last place, in the division??
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I don’t think the Blue Jays are worse than the Orioles necessarily, especially now that Toronto has Santander. If Bichette has a good year, that will change the complexion of this thing immediately.
The Yankees on the other hand look fantastic. Even better than last year imo. This could very well be an LA/New York Yankees final again.
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Not so fast on crowning my Yankees.
Yes they acquired top closer Devin Williams and a top of the rotation pitcher in Max Fried. So good moves.
But Stanton won't start the season. They have DJ LeMahieu , who has been awful the last few years, at third. Paul Goldschmidt is aging and declining at first. Jasson Dominguez in left. They're worried that Dominguez can't play left even though he was a decent center fielder in the minors. He's misjudging easy balls out there. Cody Bellinger in center, who is 6 years removed from his MVP season and was just okay last year. Austin Wells is behind the plate. His hitting badly slumped in the second half last year. Anthony Volpe at short, who didn't meet expectations offensively last season.
They're pitching looks great on paper that's for sure but other than that there is a lot of question marks for a team that has the 4th highest payroll.
From what I can see this team is not going to score any runs. I hope I'm wrong.
I think the Yanks will try to address their 3B issues. They also need a LH bullpen arm. But they have far less holes in their team than the Jays do. And better depth.
I think you are underrating the O's. They are deep. Losing Burnes hurts no doubt but they still have a good rotation.
It's not just that the Orioles have those players. They have all of them with pre-arbitration salaries. Their combined salaries for 2025 will be almost the same as what the Blue Jays will be paying Myles Straw, the stiff they inherited from Cleveland for some International Bonus Pool money that they had hoped to use to land Sasaki.
The Orioles also get pick #'s 30 and 31 in this June's amateur draft, for losing Burnes and Santander.
Hal isn't going to raise the payroll any so how is he going address third?...He's not the free spender that his dad was.
Today we learned the Last years american League rookie of the year Luis Gil will not throw for 6 weeks with a high grade lat strain..He's probably gone for the first half of the season I'm afraid...Guess they're not trading Stroman after all.
The O's have a great development system with so many players now ready and they are a playoff team. As much talent as I have seen come in over a 2 to 4 year period.
That being said there management / ownership did a horrible job this offseason - their new ownership which was supposed to spend more are still being cheap. This is after bad trade deadline in 2024. They did a great job of drafting and development with so much talent, but they have been bad at consolidating assets and limiting their current window.
They are still going to be a very good team - I think I have them slightly ahead of the Yankees to win the East.
But management and ownership has not done them any favours since July 2024.
At the beginning of 2024, with new ownership that was supposed to spend, I figured we would be looking at a 100-105 win team moving forward. They are still easily a 90+ win team, but I think the next level was expected.
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I miss Roger Clemens. I just watched two YouTube documentaries about his career. Roger Clemens and Sandy Koufax are the two greatest pitchers to ever walk the face of the earth. I don’t care about The Rocket “allegedly” needing a little extra rocket fuel lol. I know technically he’s not officially inducted into the Hall of Fame, but the hall actually has artifacts and memorabilia of his on display going back to his significant achievements. His 20 strikeout game for instance. I’m wondering if they have something pertaining to the 1999/2000 powerhouse Yankees. They make it appear as if he is a complete unmentioned stranger in the Hall of Fame… And this is simply not the case. - totally off topic.
DJ LeMahieu has been shut down with a calf issue and will not be ready to start the season.
Like I said he's been terrible the last few seasons but now they don't even have him.
Nolan Arenado?...That ticket though, yikes.
I agree with you. I would have tried like heck to keep Burnes instead of signing Morton. Especially since its unlikely that Bradish will be back in 2025. I guess we'll see how good this Japanese guy is.
3 years left at $30.5 million per. He's 34 in April, the power and average aren't close to what they were 5 years ago, albeit that was with the Mile High bump. But he still is an elite defender at the hot corner. Third has become quite a scarce position over the past few years. It depends what the Cards are asking for. If the Yanks can get the Cards to retain some of the salary in return for a package of prospects/picks it may be worthwhile. This is a big hole for them.
Yankees Potential Trade Target: Nolan Arenado
One of the best players of his era seems to be on the way out of St. Louis.
www.pinstripealley.com
This was before DJ went down...Let's see if their attitude changes.
When I think of calf issues I think about Donaldson...Plagued him for years at the end of his career.
I'm a fan of Arenado I certainly don't want to see him in pinstripes. But he does make sense for them.Yankees Potential Trade Target: Nolan Arenado
One of the best players of his era seems to be on the way out of St. Louis.
This was before DJ went down...Let's see if their attitude changes.
When I think of calf issues I think about Donaldson...Plagued him for years at the end of his career.
Matt Chapman stats
Nolan Arenado stats
Compare the two. Their salaries are similar, but Chapman has six years remaining, and Arenado has three. The Rockies still have $10 Million obligation over the next two seasons.
