Trump : Palestinians, please move out of GAZA. We (USA) will clean it up and make it the Riviera of the middle east. Then you can come back.

Frankfooter

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You can pretend that all you want but that's not reality.

And I'm sure you'll say that Hamas strangled the Bilbas infants out of a desire to help them.

Teens forced to perform sexual acts on each other: Report to UN details Hamas torture

Hours after release, freed hostages talk of Hamas torture, psychological torment

Hamas’s Torture Tactics Are Finally in the Spotlight

Bound, gagged and starved: Released hostages report severe mistreatment by captors

And you can simply look at the hostages released more resembling holocaust survivors.
Its a dead giveaway when the Hebrew and English editions are different.
I'm sure, if its ever released, it will be as solid as the allegations of rape on Oct 7.

But if you want that to be taken seriously you need to support investigations into rape and torture allegations by prisoners on both sides.
Are you will to do that?

Do you back full investigations on both sides?
Yes or no?

 
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Hamas sure tries. They don't even hide their goals.

Just last week, on of their members said they wouldn't have endorsed Oct 7 if they knew the results but the rest of hamas quickly shut him up.

Senior Hamas official: I wouldn’t have backed Oct. 7 if I’d known outcome for Gaza
Moussa Abu Marzouk says ‘impossible’ to call Gaza war a victory for terror group, says he’s open to discussing its disarmament;
Hamas: Words taken out of context, don’t represent us
Its also pretty easy to find Israelis who say they wouldn't have backed the genocide or occupation.
 
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The problem is when one hamas leader says Oct 7 wasn't worth it, the rest repeat that civilian deaths are a good thing for their agenda.
True. Hamas Leader Yahya Sinwar showed a willingness to sacrifice Palestinian civilian lives for his own advantage, calling Palestinian deaths “necessary sacrifices.”


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The ICC (which you claim to respect) has attested to Hamas' use of torture and sexual violence but you'd rather rely on twitter randos to defend your own racist point of view.
And I fully back taking those charges to court, as I do the charges of 'extermination' for Netanyahu and Gallant.
Your racism is incredibly apparent when you declare that any charges against zionists are 'antisemitic'.

There really is nothing Israel can do that you won't back.
 

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And I fully back taking those charges to court, ...
And more of your racist bullshit.

You obsessively demonize Israel and jews in general based on the slightest hint of a story while instinctively refusing to condemn Hamas even after your sources have clearly laid out the allegations, going so far as to claim the ICC/ICJ/HRW are wrong to criticize Hamas.

As usual, you're an obsessive joke. It's no wonder you rely on twitter for your opinion because even those tweets are deeper than your insights.
 
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Still pretending the problem is the attitude of the...
Yes, unlike you, I believe non-white people have agency and have the ability to make choices. Hamas chose to launch a massive terror attack with the knowledge that the civilian results that resulted would be good for their cause. They deserve condemnation for it, just like they deserve condemnation for refusing to accept the concept of a permanent peace alongside jews.
 
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And more of your racist bullshit.
Hilarious. I say I back taking both sides to court on human rights reports and you say its 'racist bullshit'.
If you are so confident that the ICJ, Amnesty and HRW call out Hamas more than Israel, why won't you back a call for both sides to be held to the law based on those reports?
 

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Yes, unlike you, I believe non-white people have agency and have the ability to make choices. Hamas chose to launch a massive terror attack with the knowledge that the civilian results that resulted would be good for their cause. They deserve condemnation for it, just like they deserve condemnation for refusing to accept the concept of a permanent peace alongside jews.
Palestinians and indigenous Jews are semites, while zionists are white?
This really is where your racial supremacy comes from and why you think different rules and laws should apply.

You also need to give agency to zionists for choosing an illegal occupation, settler colonialism, apartheid and genocide.
Those were the choices you have long backed.

Own it.


 
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