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Trump slams Zelensky, calling him a dictator and blaming him for starting the war

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I don't understand the freakout. Everyone has known for 20 years now exactly what would happen if Ukraine tried to join NATO and they kept doing it anyway. They chose that path, it wasn't forced on them. Actions have consequences.

It's not fair, it's not just. It's real world politics when you live next to a military superpower. Trump is probably the only sober person of the bunch, at this point.

Ukrainian people should demand an election right now. The war is good as over. They need to choose who picks up the pieces.
 

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"Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and “TRUMP,” will never be able to settle. The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe, and Europe’s money is guaranteed, while the United States will get nothing back. Why didn’t Sleepy Joe Biden demand Equalization, in that this War is far more important to Europe than it is to us — We have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation. On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is “MISSING.” He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden “like a fiddle.” A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only “TRUMP,” and the Trump Administration, can do. Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring Peace, and Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the “gravy train” going. I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died – And so it continues….."
 
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Had the proxy war been won already and Putin destroyed
Trump would not have to bad mouth Zelensky. He and other
world leaders might even praise Zelensky for being the Winston
Churchill of our time.
 
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Zelensky doomed his people by selling them on the preposterous idea that they could win the war. Imagine relying on outside funding from governments who have no direct accountability or anything to fear from losing the fight? What a sad situation they put themselves into. They need elections. Fast.
 

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Zelensky doomed his people by selling them on the preposterous idea that they could win the war. Imagine relying on outside funding from governments who have no direct accountability or anything to fear from losing the fight? What a sad situation they put themselves into. They need elections. Fast.
With the support of Western allies he is not losing the war. That’s what matters.
 
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With the support of Western allies he is not losing the war. That’s what matters.
You call the last 3 years winning? Yikes. I'd hate to see what losing looks like :ROFLMAO:

They had maybe 3-4 months of advantage in the battlefield during that first year. They should've negotiated then. It's been nothing but loss after loss ever since. Unwinnable war from day one. Absolutely terrible choices by Zelensky and whoever is pulling his strings.
 

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Yes. Once a country invades you just surrender. Let your people who reject the hated Russians be tortured by them.
What you want doesn't matter.
My goodness.
Put your balls in the closet.
 
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Yes. Once a country invades you just surrender. Let your people who reject the hated Russians be tortured by them.
What you want doesn't matter.
My goodness.
Put your balls in the closet.
You don't have to surrender you can do what they did for 3 years and end up here.

These are objective realities. The results are here for all to see. They can keep fighting without the US now, see how it goes for another years. Maybe lose another 50% of their land and a few hundred thousand more men.
 
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stinkynuts

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Yes. Once a country invades you just surrender. Let your people who reject the hated Russians be tortured by them.
What you want doesn't matter.
My goodness.
Put your balls in the closet.
It’s unbelievable how they think they can gaslight us, trying to make us believe in complete lies:

-Elon never did a nazi salute, it was a normal greeting

-Ukraine started the war
-Zelensky is a dictator
-Zelensky has a 4% approval rating (it’s 50%)

Utterly despicable.
 

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As Bill Maher says "I don't know it for a fact, but I know it's true", Trump is severely compromised and controlled by Putin. Every single weird thing he does related to Russia proves it. And his political disinformation playbook is textbook Soviet science. He isn't smart enough to learn it on his own.

So I kind of chuckle when I hear discussions about his plan or intentions behind whatever he vomits out his mouth. There is no logic that normal western, civilized people can understand behind his actions or words.
 

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"Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and “TRUMP,” will never be able to settle. The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe, and Europe’s money is guaranteed, while the United States will get nothing back. Why didn’t Sleepy Joe Biden demand Equalization, in that this War is far more important to Europe than it is to us — We have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation. On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is “MISSING.” He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden “like a fiddle.” A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only “TRUMP,” and the Trump Administration, can do. Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring Peace, and Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the “gravy train” going. I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died – And so it continues….."

Hey fuckwit, aside froom being a good comedian requiring high social and other intelligence, Zelenskyy studied law and economics at University and earned a law degree. He decided to go into entertainment instead in the early part of his life. Now he is a respectable, well spoken leader holding together a country and managing international relations during a a war. I don't recall him telling any jokes since he was elected President.
 

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I imagine some of you just bent over the arms of your couch, cheeks spread, waiting for Daddy Putin to come stick it in.

You fund the war in Ukraine so that your citizens are not being killed. Side benefit: every Russian bullet, tank, and soldier spent in Ukraine is one less that they have to use against you.

Your job as a world leader is to strengthen your country while weakening everyone else. Spending pennies to destabilize Russia is good value.
 
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Ukraine, and by extension all of their European supporters, were dealt a harsh slap on the face. Ukraine will not be in NATO. Ukraine will not win the war. They won't even get to keep their borders.

Wartime presidents don't do well in transitory periods. They desperately need an election now and to get new representation to the negotiating table as soon as possible. They need to build economic bridges with the west if they have any possibility of rebuilding a functioning economy.
 

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I don't understand the freakout. Everyone has known for 20 years now exactly what would happen if Ukraine tried to join NATO and they kept doing it anyway. They chose that path, it wasn't forced on them. Actions have consequences.

It's not fair, it's not just. It's real world politics when you live next to a military superpower. Trump is probably the only sober person of the bunch, at this point.

Ukrainian people should demand an election right now. The war is good as over. They need to choose who picks up the pieces.
IS Russia a superpower? I mean, they couldn't take and hold Ukraine, and NATOs scraps are mopping the floor with their armor.

 
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IS Russia a superpower? I mean, they couldn't take and hold Ukraine, and NATOs scraps are mopping the floor with their armor.

Half a trillion was funneled into Ukraine and they couldn't beat the Russians back to the border. Facts are facts. Is Russia a superpower? When they're next door to you, you bet.
 
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boobtoucher

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Half a trillion was funneled into Ukraine and they couldn't beat the Russians back to the border. Facts are facts. Is Russia a superpower? When they're next door to you, you bet.
So, no, it doesn't look like half-a-trillion.


Second, Russia looks like they're spending more (admittedly, this is old data):


The Swan Lake tapes are in the betamaxes at Россия. Fund Ukraine for another year and we'll be looking at 1553 borders, not 2014 borders.
 
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